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Old 13th October 2018, 02:42 AM   #81
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I still think Microsoft could do more with their updates to prevent a Nigerian prince form being able to defraud people out of their life savings and having their money ending up in Mumbai. The internet is supposed to be an information highway not a fraud highway.
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Old 13th October 2018, 03:43 AM   #82
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Even the might of Microsoft can't protect you from gross stupidity.

ps. Mumbai is not actually in Nigeria.
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Old 13th October 2018, 01:39 PM   #83
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Wait till you get defrauded and then see how you feel about it then, and about the Microsoft security measures and updates. Fortunately it hasn't happened to me but according to the news hundreds of millions of pounds have been defrauded in the UK just last year.
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Old 13th October 2018, 03:11 PM   #84
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I still think Microsoft could do more with their updates to prevent a Nigerian prince form being able to defraud people out of their life savings and having their money ending up in Mumbai. The internet is supposed to be an information highway not a fraud highway.
But that's not a problem for the operating system to resolve. For example, suppose you use a third party email client such as Thunderbird. If I make a TLS connection to the mail server, Individual emails are encrypted from the time they leave the mail server until they're received by Thunderbird, decrypted, and written to the disc. Unless you want to grant Windows (and, by extension, Microsoft) the right to read every email that is written to disc—provided the OS can determine the content is email—there's not much Windows can do about the message.

It's possible to read encrypted content between the server and the email client program using man-in-the-middle software, but in my opinion that's not for the operating system to do. Again, I don't want Microsoft reading my emails.

Then there's web-based email, which is extremely popular these days. In this scenario, the bits are encrypted in the HTML that comes to your computer as part of a series of IP packets. Windows has no clue as to what all is in those bits. Do they constitute a video or MP3 stream? A page served up from the ISF or a news outlet? The operating system—be it Windows, MacOS, Linux, or whatever—just doesn't know (and, more importantly, can't know) what's in the data stream, so it can't protect you from a Nigerian 419 scam.

"Those that would give up a little bit of liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." Unfortunately, when it comes to computers far too may people are choosing convenience over security. Some of the convenience comes in the form of not learning how computers work beyond "I press the power button and it turns on." That works for simple things like light bulbs, but a computer is way more complicated than that.
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Old 15th October 2018, 11:54 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
Wait till you get defrauded and then see how you feel about it then, and about the Microsoft security measures and updates. Fortunately it hasn't happened to me but according to the news hundreds of millions of pounds have been defrauded in the UK just last year.
Here's a hint: If somebody tells you they want to share $40,000,000 worth of gold with you, they're probably lying. Especially if they want you to send them $5,000 for some reason first.

Seriously, Henri, scam emails are a problem, but it's not realistic to expect Microsoft (or any other software provider) to fix that problem.
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Old 15th October 2018, 11:55 AM   #86
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Practically all of the major "E-mail scams" (The Nigerian Price, the Dying Relative, the IRS Threat) existed (and still do) as fax and physical mail scams.
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Old 15th October 2018, 03:37 PM   #87
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Practically all of the major "E-mail scams" (The Nigerian Price, the Dying Relative, the IRS Threat) existed (and still do) as fax and physical mail scams.
Some were (and still are) done by phone too. I remember getting a call telling me that I'd won some lottery for which I never bought a ticket. Usually those involve you having to pay some kind of fee before you can collect your non-existent winnings.
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