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Old 16th April 2019, 06:08 PM   #41
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No. He is in intensive care with head trauma and broken bones.
"Severe" head trauma is what is being reported in the local press here. The fall was about 40 feet onto hard stone tile.
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Old 16th April 2019, 06:37 PM   #42
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"Severe" head trauma is what is being reported in the local press here. The fall was about 40 feet onto hard stone tile.
Yes. It was reported that he was lying in a pool of blood and I suspect that may have been from a fractured skull.

More from Daily Mail: His mother was asked about his condition or status. She replied that she holds his hand and she feels he is surrounded by a warm aura and that they are awaiting tests. She attributed the aura to all of the prayers of well wishers.

I'm afraid that with her only description being an aura, it means that he is comatose or fully sedated.
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Old 16th April 2019, 08:13 PM   #43
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I'm afraid that with her only description being an aura, it means that he is comatose or fully sedated.

I would be happy to be surprised if the child was not already brain dead.
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Old 20th April 2019, 09:18 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
This begs the question, why was this nut allowed to roam free in the first place?
Because treatment costs money.
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Old 20th April 2019, 09:23 AM   #45
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Also it looks like misogyny may have been a factor in Aranda's attack.
According to the Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, Aranda was driven by rage over being rejected by women.

Aranda told police he had come to the mall on Thursday intending to kill an adult, but that it did not “work out,” according to the complaint. He returned Friday and chose the boy instead. He told police he knew what he was planning to do was wrong. Aranda said he had been coming to the mall for years, tried to speak to women there and they rejected him. That made him lash out and act aggressively.
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Old 20th April 2019, 09:29 AM   #46
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Because treatment costs money.
And also because you don't have an answer to the questions of who would stop him from roaming around, and on what grounds.
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Old 21st April 2019, 04:38 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum View Post
There are some weird right-wing talking points being injected into this thread.
Happens a lot here I have noticed.
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Um, why? There's no evidence of a racial motivation. Why should we believe an unevidenced assertion?

Maybe it's true that a white adult and a black child would be seen immediately as a race crime. That doesn't mean the such an assumption is correct. It's wrong until evidence shows otherwise.

You're saying: Since some people might make an illogical assumption in one case, we're required to always make illogical assumptions in all cases.

And that's just illogical.
But there is evidence of a racial motivation. In fact, there is not just evidence, but conclusive proof of a racial motivation. One person was black and the other person was white.
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Both really. Its near impossible to get the mentally ill treated if they don't want it, and they often don't.

There were to things that lead to the US effectively abandoning the mentally ill. A long series of abuses in mental health facilities and a lack of desire to pay for treatment.
The problem isn't mental illness. It's importing huge numbers of low-IQ Africans into a part of the world where they don't belong and letting them roam the streets.
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Better asked of the ACLU.

If we could warehouse the whackos, we wouldn't have the homeless problems in our west coast cities.
Yeah, because **** treating people with mental health issues unless they can pay. The ACLU is one the few things slowing the slide to authoritarian **** hole.
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But there is evidence of a racial motivation. In fact, there is not just evidence, but conclusive proof of a racial motivation. One person was black and the other person was white.
No.

Not every interaction between people of different races is racially motivated.
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The problem isn't mental illness. It's importing huge numbers of low-IQ Africans into a part of the world where they don't belong and letting them roam the streets.
This is disgusting crap.
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The problem isn't mental illness. It's importing huge numbers of low-IQ Africans into a part of the world where they don't belong and letting them roam the streets.


Holy ****.
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5-Year-Old Boy Thrown from Mall of America Balcony 'Showing Real Signs of Recovery'

https://people.com/crime/boy-thrown-...s-of-recovery/
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
5-Year-Old Boy Thrown from Mall of America Balcony 'Showing Real Signs of Recovery'

https://people.com/crime/boy-thrown-...s-of-recovery/
I suspect that those real signs of recovery are not signs of recovery to the state he was. And whilst I know faith often gives people comfort could they at least have thanked the medical professionals that have actually kept him alive?
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I suspect that those real signs of recovery are not signs of recovery to the state he was.
I'm... hopeful but skeptical. It seems to be the same family member (the one running the GoFundMe) that all the information is coming from.

I'm sorry having a real hard time on a pure intellectual level even wrapping my head around the kid surviving the fall, much less making anything that could be called a full recovery.
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I have no idea, but I get a little hope from the fact that both surface area over mass and the cross sectional area of one's bones over mass go up as height goes down.

A kid surviving a fall like that is actually more plausible than an adult. To what extent this should lead to some hope that it's not as bad as we'd intuitively guess based on both the height and the hardness of the surface he landed on, I'm not going to guess, but there's a little hope to be found there.
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But there is evidence of a racial motivation. In fact, there is not just evidence, but conclusive proof of a racial motivation. One person was black and the other person was white.

That's true. It's something I learned from every thread I have read here at the ISF that discusses a police shooting which involves a black person.
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What are you talking about? Threads discussing black policemen shooting white citizens? I don't remember seeing any of those.
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It's in Court as we speak.

Beautiful blonde Australian, gunned down by a black policeman.

(Because he was scared when she approached his car in her pyjamas).
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But there is evidence of a racial motivation. In fact, there is not just evidence, but conclusive proof of a racial motivation. One person was black and the other person was white.
The good new is, this kind of reasoning means your reasoning can't be taken seriously. For this to be conclusive proof it would have to mean that all crimes involving two races would have to be racially motivated. That's pretty ridiculous claim that I'm sure you can't support with evidence. Also demonstrating this kind of fallacious reasoning will undermine anything you might have to say about IQ.

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The problem isn't mental illness. It's importing huge numbers of low-IQ Africans into a part of the world where they don't belong and letting them roam the streets.
This guy was born in Chicago according to reports I've read. And not a single opinion you've expressed here is supported by any evidence or even bad reasoning. For the moment, I'll assume you arrived at these unsupported opinions by applying the same faulty reasoning you used above and just ignore them.
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It's in Court as we speak.

Beautiful blonde Australian, gunned down by a black policeman.*

(Because he was scared when she approached his car in her pyjamas).
Not a black policeman--a low-IQ African brought to a part of the world where he doesn't belong and allowed to roam the streets with a gun and a badge.
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That sounds interesting. Could you tell us how you happen to know his IQ?
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Reports now saying that the family says the boy is alert and conscious and no longer in critical condition.
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This is disgusting crap.
Agreed.

I was kind of avoiding this thread because stories of kids getting hurt aren't fun to read. But hey, now I've got another reason to avoid it.
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Reports now saying that the family says the boy is alert and conscious and no longer in critical condition.
Amazing. Really do hope he hasn't suffered long term extensive brain damage.
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Warehousing them OR treating them.

You've gone right to the crux of the problem. It wasn't the ACLU that put mentally ill people on the streets with little or no treatment alternatives.

It was GOP pols looking for budget cuts to fund their Welfare For The Wealthy programs.
This, always.
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Agreed.

I was kind of avoiding this thread because stories of kids getting hurt aren't fun to read. But hey, now I've got another reason to avoid it.
The Board's On Call Racist Response Team somehow made discussion of a child being thrown 40 feet off a balcony even less pleasant.
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Also it looks like misogyny may have been a factor in Aranda's attack.
According to the Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, Aranda was driven by rage over being rejected by women.

Aranda told police he had come to the mall on Thursday intending to kill an adult, but that it did not “work out,” according to the complaint. He returned Friday and chose the boy instead. He told police he knew what he was planning to do was wrong. Aranda said he had been coming to the mall for years, tried to speak to women there and they rejected him. That made him lash out and act aggressively.
Not the women's fault or responsibility. nut case is nut case.
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The problem isn't mental illness. It's importing huge numbers of low-IQ Africans into a part of the world where they don't belong and letting them roam the streets.
clearly you are unaware that IQ is not determined by race or county of origin. It is determined by your genetics.

Are you, by chance, under the impression that intelligence/IQ is determined by your skin color and where you were born? If this is the case there are some assumptions I can certainly make concerning you. And certain of your factors.
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The tosser has pleaded guilty.

Originally Posted by CNN
Emmanuel Aranda, 24, struck a plea bargain to avoid trial, said Chuck Laszewski, a spokesman for the prosecutor's office. The office intends to seek the maximum punishment for attempted first-degree murder, which is 19 years in prison, he said. Sentencing is set for June 3.

The family has some things to say. They seem to be as one with the Lord...

Originally Posted by CNN
The boy's family gave the plea deal its blessing, Chuck Laszewski (a spokesman for the prosecutor's office) said.

"We were happy with this," he said. "Even if we would have gone to trial, proven the case, the most he would have gotten would have been 12 months more."...

"All praise, glory and honor to Jesus! He saved our son's life and is healing him in the most miraculous ways," the family statement said. "The road to recovery remains long, but with God and you, we are assured to make it through."...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/us/ma...lea/index.html
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