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Old 13th December 2017, 11:25 AM   #441
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Omarosa has now been fired twice by Trump. The first was on Trump’s TV show.
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Old 13th December 2017, 11:46 AM   #442
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Seems the most insipid of them all (Aside from the boss) is leaving. Omarosa.
Of all of the Trump butt kissers, Omarosa was one about the most public of all of them and now she has been given the boot.

Good riddance to her.
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Old 13th December 2017, 12:25 PM   #443
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Originally Posted by zorro99 View Post
Omarosa has now been fired twice thrice by Trump. The first was on Trump’s TV show.
Fixed. She was fired twice previously (once on Apprentice, once on Celebrity Apprentice).
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Old 13th December 2017, 04:40 PM   #444
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Apparently she really did need to be physically escorted out. I assume she wasn't manhandled and dragged out, but they were ready to if necessary.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/omaros...-she-was-fired
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Holy cow.

Dontcha gotta wonder how she's going to keep working there if her pass has been terminated?
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Old 13th December 2017, 08:18 PM   #446
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Seems the most insipid of them all (Aside from the boss) is leaving. Omarosa.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...94961482780672

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The escort is possibly just a formality. You'd have to surrender your credentials at the security station and from that point on, need an escort to move around the facility.

ETA: Not a whole lot of weight to "storming" the residence either, necessarily. A moment of hot-headed impropriety before being stopped at a checkpoint and reminded she doesn't have access to that part of the building and a few irritable words could have been all it was. I don't like to feed into the "fake news" thing, but it is a profit-driven business and sensationalism sells. Given the personalities in this administration, its not hard to find a few people happy to give quotes indicating a contentious stand-off as (conveniently anonymous) parting blows.

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Old 14th December 2017, 05:40 AM   #448
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
The escort is possibly just a formality. You'd have to surrender your credentials at the security station and from that point on, need an escort to move around the facility.

ETA: Not a whole lot of weight to "storming" the residence either, necessarily. A moment of hot-headed impropriety before being stopped at a checkpoint and reminded she doesn't have access to that part of the building and a few irritable words could have been all it was. I don't like to feed into the "fake news" thing, but it is a profit-driven business and sensationalism sells. Given the personalities in this administration, its not hard to find a few people happy to give quotes indicating a contentious stand-off as (conveniently anonymous) parting blows.
But that doesn't make good television, and this is the first reality television based administration. So can't she raise her game just a bit for the sake of ratings?
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Old 14th December 2017, 07:05 AM   #449
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
The escort is possibly just a formality. You'd have to surrender your credentials at the security station and from that point on, need an escort to move around the facility.

ETA: Not a whole lot of weight to "storming" the residence either, necessarily. A moment of hot-headed impropriety before being stopped at a checkpoint and reminded she doesn't have access to that part of the building and a few irritable words could have been all it was. I don't like to feed into the "fake news" thing, but it is a profit-driven business and sensationalism sells. Given the personalities in this administration, its not hard to find a few people happy to give quotes indicating a contentious stand-off as (conveniently anonymous) parting blows.
I think they are basically saying she attempted to storm the residence. But you are 100 percent right. My guess is she had a temper tantrum at a checkpoint and then was asked to leave the entire White House grounds and an escort accompanied her to the gate. Having seen the childish way Omarosa acted on The Apprentice, nothing would surprise me about that woman.
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I know the angle, don't get me wrong.

No, I mean the literal angle. This would call for a low, up-angle tracking dolly shot as she marches down the hall with a grim expression. Cue low, dissonant tone. Cut to: hand-held over-the-shoulder follow shot from Omarosa, key on guard. Cut to: static over-the-shoulder from guard, key on Omarosa. Tones rise, still dissonant, to crescendo, one more beat of tension as she reaches the checkpoint, aaaaaand commercial break.
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Old 15th December 2017, 02:12 AM   #452
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Originally Posted by The Greater Fool View Post
Fixed. She was fired twice previously (once on Apprentice, once on Celebrity Apprentice).
Also incorrect... which would make it... err... quadlice...
1. Apprentice Season 1 - 2004 - fired
2. Apprentice Season 8 - 2008 - fired (Celebrity Apprentice)
3. Apprentice Season 13 - 2013 - fired (All-Star Celebrity)

It should be noted that Trump's tweet doesn't include the usual "they're such an awesome person" compliments. I'd imagine John Kelly wrote the tweet himself.

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Former Apprentice star on leaving Trump's White House: 'I've seen things that made me uncomfortable'
Omarosa Manigault-Newman denies reports she had been fired from her post as an assistant to Donald Trump, and says she has ‘a profound story’ to share.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-uncomfortable

President Grandpa will have something to say about this. Where’s my popcorn?
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Her refusal to be a public advocate for the White House as its most prominent African American woman culminated on Tuesday night in a meeting with chief of staff John Kelly and several lawyers in the White House Situation Room that the source said ended with her departure from the administration
That can't be right.

We're using the Situation Room for firing assistants?

Either the reporter doesn't know the Roosevelt Conference Room from the Situation Room or this administration is just flat out goofy.

This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be

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Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat View Post
Former Apprentice star on leaving Trump's White House: 'I've seen things that made me uncomfortable'
Omarosa Manigault-Newman denies reports she had been fired from her post as an assistant to Donald Trump, and says she has ‘a profound story’ to share.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-uncomfortable

President Grandpa will have something to say about this. Where’s my popcorn?
Sounds like she's just plugging her book.

“As the only African American woman in this White House, as a senior staff and assistant to the president, I have seen things that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people,” Omarosa said.

“And when I can tell my story, it is a profound story that I know the world will want to hear,”
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That can't be right.

We're using the Situation Room for firing assistants?

Either the reporter doesn't know the Roosevelt Conference Room from the Situation Room or this administration is just flat out goofy.
The SR can display more TV channels at once. And it's way cooler. And Roosevelt was a gawddamned Democritter.
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Sounds like she's just plugging her book.

“As the only African American woman in this White House, as a senior staff and assistant to the president, I have seen things that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people,” Omarosa said.

“And when I can tell my story, it is a profound story that I know the world will want to hear,”
Oh yeah, any time someone is making statements to the press about the whopper of a story they have, I always immediately get a thought like, "well, the cameras are rolling, don't be shy!"

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Has anybody seen her on TV/video yet, after the ouster? Were the $.$ signs blinging brightly in her eyes?

This may become a book even I could buy, fodder for commutes or solutary after-work beers.
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Has anybody seen her on TV/video yet, after the ouster? Were the $.$ signs blinging brightly in her eyes?

This may become a book even I could buy, fodder for commutes or solutary after-work beers.
I honestly doubt that there is anything substantive against the President or his inner circle and in the event that there is, she is likely to keep quiet about it because she seems completely financially dependent on Donald Trump.
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I honestly doubt that there is anything substantive against the President or his inner circle and in the event that there is, she is likely to keep quiet about it because she seems completely financially dependent on Donald Trump.
Where did you read that I expect a substantive book??

Through what channels do you imagine Trump will sponsor her 2018-2020? And why should he? Out of loyalty?
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Former Apprentice star on leaving Trump's White House: 'I've seen things that made me uncomfortable'
Omarosa Manigault-Newman denies reports she had been fired from her post as an assistant to Donald Trump, and says she has ‘a profound story’ to share.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-uncomfortable

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I think she means she has a profound story to sell.
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Where did you read that I expect a substantive book??
You seemed to indicate that you thought that there may be something of interest for you in the book. I had assumed that this would be some kind of revelation about the President or someone close to him.

IMO if there is a book it will be exclusively about her and her time, it will tease at having some juicy information about the President and/or his Administration but this will turn out to be something like he really likes Big Macs.

I apologise if I have misconstrued.

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Through what channels do you imagine Trump will sponsor her 2018-2020? And why should he? Out of loyalty?
The usual channels I guess. It seems that she keeps coming back to The Apprentice well to drink and that the President has also provided a job within his campaign, transition team and Administration. Despite the fact that he shouldn't, The President seems to exert considerable influence over the people running the Trump organisation so that could be one avenue to providing her with money, corporate donors may be another.

As to why, I don't know, but he seems to have been doing it for a decade or more.
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I think she means she has a profound story to sell.
I hope it includes telling us just what the hell her job was. It's a profound mystery.
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I hope it includes telling us just what the hell her job was. It's a profound mystery.
Perhaps that IS the scandal she saw there? That for 10 months, no one would come up with a job description for her.
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Has anybody seen her on TV/video yet, after the ouster? Were the $.$ signs blinging brightly in her eyes?

This may become a book even I could buy, fodder for commutes or solutary after-work beers.
She was on Good Morning America, claiming that if she'd really had a tantrum or been escorted out someone would have taken video on their phone and posted it to YouTube. Seriously, that's what she said.
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She was on Good Morning America, claiming that if she'd really had a tantrum or been escorted out someone would have taken video on their phone and posted it to YouTube. Seriously, that's what she said.

She was a White House insider. She would know what sort of common practices are expected there.
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She was on Good Morning America, claiming that if she'd really had a tantrum or been escorted out someone would have taken video on their phone and posted it to YouTube. Seriously, that's what she said.
She's probably right. If the intent was to humiliate her, I suspect that would have been arranged.
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So who's next?

Sessions?
Mueller?
Tillerson?

Or a pardon and reinstatement for Flynn?
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Mueller doesn't work for the WH.
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Since Trump has taken to referring to Rosenstein as a Democrat, he might not have much time left.
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Or a pardon and reinstatement for Flynn?
Well, it wasn't long ago that Trump said publicly that there was no plan to pardon Flynn "yet". So it does look like it's on the cards.
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Flynn's already flipped. No point wasting a pardon on him unless Trump thinks there's stuff Flynn knows but hasn't divulged yet.
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Flynn's already flipped. No point wasting a pardon on him unless Trump thinks there's stuff Flynn knows but hasn't divulged yet.
It seems like witness tampering.
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It seems like witness tampering.
Lowering the bar on witness tampering for the family though. Used to be you had a prostitute sleep with your brother in law while you filmed it, and gave the tape to your sister. Now that is real Trump-Kushner style witness tampering.

No one really steps up their game anymore and are just so lazy. Kids today.
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Flynn's already flipped. No point wasting a pardon on him unless Trump thinks there's stuff Flynn knows but hasn't divulged yet.
A pardon might, in fact, decrease Flynn's fifth amendment protection and allow him to be compelled to testify.

Trump responded to a reporter's question this morning by saying he wasn't going to fire Mueller.
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A pardon might, in fact, decrease Flynn's fifth amendment protection and allow him to be compelled to testify.

Trump responded to a reporter's question this morning by saying he wasn't going to fire Mueller.
....because he cannot.

He can however fire Rod Rosenstein, appoint a compliant successor who will then fire Mueller. He might even be able to apply enough pressure to Rosenstein to persuade him to fore Mueller.
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....because he cannot.

He can however fire Rod Rosenstein, appoint a compliant successor who will then fire Mueller. He might even be able to apply enough pressure to Rosenstein to persuade him to fore Mueller.
I'm guessing Sessions is next. Sessions replacement would take over the investigation from Rosenstein, who only has it because Sessions is recused. Then, that new AG can agree with Trump that donating to Democrats and saying mean things about Trump makes you an Enemy of the State so the investigation is "corrupt."
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I'm guessing Sessions is next. Sessions replacement would take over the investigation from Rosenstein, who only has it because Sessions is recused. Then, that new AG can agree with Trump that donating to Democrats and saying mean things about Trump makes you an Enemy of the State so the investigation is "corrupt."
But doesn't that mean it is time to purge Tillerman?
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
But doesn't that mean it is time to purge Tillerman?
Maybe as a diversion or vindictive spite, but Trump has effectively fired Tillerson already, and since he doesn't care about the State Dept or diplomacy, there's no rush to find a replacement.
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....because he cannot.

He can however fire Rod Rosenstein, appoint a compliant successor who will then fire Mueller. He might even be able to apply enough pressure to Rosenstein to persuade him to fore Mueller.
He can't at least not yet. There are not a lot of complaints coming from the Senate, just some true Trumpites in the House. The Trump Surrogates have not yet laid the groundwork to keep the Senate from reacting.

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