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Old 28th February 2018, 04:36 PM   #601
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Originally Posted by Loss Leader View Post
My best guess is that, in connection with her testimony yesterday, she told her lawyers something incriminating and they advised her she had to quit.

Ding, ding, ding!!


If you spend several hours in front of the House Intelligence Committee and the very next day quit your job. It's related. Hard to sell "huge coincidence" on that one.

I believe it has come out that during that testimony she admitted to having often told white lies for Trump. But never about anything important.

Gotta love the contradiction there. If it wasn't ever about anything important... why do it?
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Old 28th February 2018, 06:10 PM   #602
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Originally Posted by This is The End View Post
Ding, ding, ding!!


If you spend several hours in front of the House Intelligence Committee and the very next day quit your job. It's related. Hard to sell "huge coincidence" on that one.

I believe it has come out that during that testimony she admitted to having often told white lies for Trump. But never about anything important.

Gotta love the contradiction there. If it wasn't ever about anything important... why do it?

That doesn't stop them from trying;
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Multiple White House aides said that Ms. Hicks’s departure was unrelated to her appearance before the committee. They said that she had told a small group of people in the days before the session that she had planned to leave her job.
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Old 28th February 2018, 06:34 PM   #603
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Perhaps TheDonald was getting a bit too handsy and her boyfriend was no longer there to obstruct.
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Old 28th February 2018, 07:19 PM   #604
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She knows where the bodies are buried. Probably helped bury a few of them herself. And after talks with her lawyer and then stonewalling badly in front of the HIC, she has finally realised she is in a bad, bad place and needs to get out while the going is good. Alternative theory: she may have realised she has less to lose by resigning. Expect her to travel to somewhere the USA can't extradite her from.

No, it isn't coincidental that the HIC appearance immediately preceded her resignation.
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Old 28th February 2018, 09:35 PM   #605
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
That doesn't stop them from trying;
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Ha. Days! I mean, who could possibly know days ahead of a testimony that what they're likely to say in that testimony would make it extremely difficult if not impossible to remain in their current job?
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Old 28th February 2018, 10:38 PM   #606
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That small group of people probably consisted of nobody, a ghost, and a cat. And the cat refuses to back her up.
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Old 28th February 2018, 11:29 PM   #607
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Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd View Post
Ha. Days! I mean, who could possibly know days ahead of a testimony that what they're likely to say in that testimony would make it extremely difficult if not impossible to remain in their current job?

That's from other people. Her story is she had been contemplating it for months.
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Old 28th February 2018, 11:54 PM   #608
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Originally Posted by This is The End View Post
That small group of people probably consisted of nobody, a ghost, and a cat. And the cat refuses to back her up.
That's cats for ya... no real loyalty at all.

OMG... Trump is cat people!

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It's being reported that after her testimony in which she admitted telling "white lies", Trump upbraided her, that being perhaps the proverbial last straw.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Hicks is out, now everybody is reporting it.
Like putting a model who had no Public Relations or News experience as communications director was a good idea....
Not meant to be a slur on models, but still..
Gee whiz!

When one of Trump's favorite lackeys gets the boot, then it clearly shows just what a total cluster "something censored" the White House has been since 12:00 PM EST 20 JAN 2017.
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In a thousand years, I wouldn't have guessed Hope Hicks.
Yea but then she admitted to lying and he can not accept that.
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Yea but then she admitted to lying and he can not accept that.
You are quite right.

Hope Hicks should have used a more elaborate term like "alternative truths" instead.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
One of the best descriptions of Trump I have read is "A Weak man's fantasy of a Strong man".
Succint and accurate.
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Old 1st March 2018, 06:41 AM   #614
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
It's being reported that after her testimony in which she admitted telling "white lies", Trump upbraided her, that being perhaps the proverbial last straw.
I bet he did - admitting you lied! That's a terrible sin in the church of Trump.
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Old 1st March 2018, 02:00 PM   #615
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Gee whiz!

When one of Trump's favorite lackeys gets the boot, then it clearly shows just what a total cluster "something censored" the White House has been since 12:00 PM EST 20 JAN 2017.
I can see wanting to surround yourself with people you can trust,and who have some loyalty, but for heaven's sake be sure they are competent to do the job you are hiring them for. Trump seems unable to do that.
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I can see wanting to surround yourself with people you can trust,and who have some loyalty, but for heaven's sake be sure they are competent to do the job you are hiring them for. Trump seems unable to do that.
I saw a news bit discussing some internal turmoil around him wanting to hire his private pilot to run the FAA. Here is the first article I found.
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Up next, HR Mcmaster.... ? Looking that way.

Will the last adult in the room please turn the lights off on the way out ?

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White House preparing for exit of national security advisor HR McMaster: NBC News
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Ford executive Stephen Biegun is among McMaster's possible replacements, according to NBC
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
Up next, HR Mcmaster.... ? Looking that way.

Will the last adult in the room please turn the lights off on the way out ?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/whit...-nbc-news.html


White House preparing for exit of national security advisor HR McMaster: NBC News
The White House could replace national security advisor H.R. McMaster as early as next month, NBC News reports.
Ford executive Stephen Biegun is among McMaster's possible replacements, according to NBC
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He's still has lots of years ahead if him. Why would he throw it all away to work for a Russian Whore?
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Old 1st March 2018, 04:44 PM   #619
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...it clearly shows just what a total cluster "something censored" the White House has been since 12:00 PM EST 20 JAN 2017.
It still surprises me that some people are waking up to this only now (and that many have not, yet).
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Reports that some of his economic advisors might well quit over his Tarifff decision,rather then be blamed for the economic train wreck that is coming....
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Old 1st March 2018, 05:17 PM   #621
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I can see wanting to surround yourself with people you can trust,and who have some loyalty, but for heaven's sake be sure they are competent to do the job you are hiring them for. Trump seems unable to do that.
Even more so: a truly clever leader includes in their inner circle at least a few people who are not only competent, but are also willing to actively disagree with them, to point out the possible negatives in any policy proposed, and to propose alternative ideas.

It is easier to surround yourself with ego-stroking yes-people, but very dangerous to make policy in a hall of mirrors where everyone is just trying to please the big boss.

Needless-to-say I am not expecting Trump to recognize the value of having advisors who will disagree with him.
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It's being reported that after her testimony in which she admitted telling "white lies", Trump upbraided her, that being perhaps the proverbial last straw.
Typical Trump administration tactic. Keep telling different lies until the media gets bored with debunking them.
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
Even more so: a truly clever leader includes in their inner circle at least a few people who are not only competent, but are also willing to actively disagree with them, to point out the possible negatives in any policy proposed, and to propose alternative ideas.

It is easier to surround yourself with ego-stroking yes-people, but very dangerous to make policy in a hall of mirrors where everyone is just trying to please the big boss.

Needless-to-say I am not expecting Trump to recognize the value of having advisors who will disagree with him.
Right.
It appears that for Trump, only yes-people will fit the bill for people he will trust, rendering "competent" and "trustworthy" mutually exclusive categories, as a general rule.
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
Even more so: a truly clever leader includes in their inner circle at least a few people who are not only competent, but are also willing to actively disagree with them, to point out the possible negatives in any policy proposed, and to propose alternative ideas.

It is easier to surround yourself with ego-stroking yes-people, but very dangerous to make policy in a hall of mirrors where everyone is just trying to please the big boss.

Needless-to-say I am not expecting Trump to recognize the value of having advisors who will disagree with him.
What you say here is pretty much standard in any Business Management 1A course:that surrounding yourself with Yes Men leads to disaster.
Another reason why people who claim Trump is a great businessman are ignorant .
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Surrounds himself with sychophants who are afraid to disagree with him.
Increasingly Isolated from all but his his most boot licking sycophants.
Rejecting reality when it clashes with his ideological obssesions.
Finding "traitors" everywhere.
Turning on people who were once his allies.
Now who does that remind you of in his last days?
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Surrounds himself with sychophants who are afraid to disagree with him.
Increasingly Isolated from all but his his most boot licking sycophants.
Rejecting reality when it clashes with his ideological obssesions.
Finding "traitors" everywhere.
Turning on people who were once his allies.
Now who does that remind you of in his last days?
Does Trump have ideological obsessions (plural), or just himself as King S*** as his exclusive ideological obsession?
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Does Trump have ideological obsessions (plural), or just himself as King S*** as his exclusive ideological obsession?
I think it is pretty clear his does have some ideological obssesions..immigrants are basically bad being one of them.
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I think it is pretty clear his does have some ideological obssesions..immigrants are basically bad being one of them.
I kinda think he just fakes hatred of immigrants to pander to his bigot base.
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You are quite right.

Hope Hicks should have used a more elaborate term like "alternative truths" instead.
You are confusing your alternative facts with hyperbolic truths.
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I have this fantasy that she resigned because Mueller flipped her, but I think that's unlikely. My best guess is that, in connection with her testimony yesterday, she told her lawyers something incriminating and they advised her she had to quit.
You give the lot of them too much credit for maturity.

Speculating: Her boyfriend was canned. Probably led to some tension. Trump's pressures are mounting. He's been yelling at everyone, surely he shouted at Hicks. She's been grumbling not used to not being in a snowflake role. She gets back from the Mueller interrogation, it's leaked about the admission of white lies, Trump is his unable to control himself mood yells some more at poor little Hicks and she says, fine I quit.

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Sessions will go before Jarod, is my bet.
Sessions and Rosenstein apparently made a conspicuous public appearance at a restaurant across from Trump's hotel. That suggests they are teaming up and taking advantage of the turmoil to let Trump no they aren't going anywhere and he can't fire them.

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Perhaps TheDonald was getting a bit too handsy and her boyfriend was no longer there to obstruct.
Doubtful. He's too angry right now. His widdle world is crashing down.

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He's still has lots of years ahead if him. Why would he throw it all away to work for a Russian Whore?
Maybe McMasters is drawing the line at corruption akin to treason.

Apparently it was news to McMaster that Kushner had all those meetings with foreigners just before they loaned Kushner millions.

At least that's what the article in the WA Po suggests: Kushnerís overseas contacts raise concerns as foreign officials seek leverage
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H.R. McMaster, President Trumpís national security adviser, learned that Kushner had contacts with foreign officials that he did not coordinate through the National Security Council or officially report.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I think it is pretty clear his does have some ideological obssesions..immigrants are basically bad being one of them.
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I kinda think he just fakes hatred of immigrants to pander to his bigot base.
He has, after all, married two of them. Hot Eastern European immigrants = good. Filthy Mexicans = bad.
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Well that certainly adds another layer.
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Well that certainly adds another layer.
Looks like Kelly wants to be president.
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That surprises me. I don't know much about Kelly but I'd have thought Mattis and McMaster were kindred spirits. They are both well known for being scholar generals. I wonder if this was a hostage rescue on the part of the CoS and SECDEF or he got on the outs with the two former four stars for advocating a "bloody nose" strike on North Korea. I don't believe either of them were in favor of that course of action.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
He has, after all, married two of them. Hot Eastern European immigrants = good. Filthy Mexicans = bad.
I suspect that if all his indiscretions with undocumented pretty young house keepers were brought to term there'd be a global onesie shortage.
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I kinda think he just fakes hatred of immigrants to pander to his bigot base.

And people though that Hitler's rants against the Jews were just for political purposes.
I have come to think that if someone says bigoted things and acts like a bigot, it is safest to think he is a bigot.
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More reports on CNN tonight that Trump's main economic advisor might well quit over the Tariff.
And the Wall Street Journal blasted Trump for his tariffs, calling it the worst policy decision of his presidency so far. In terms of damaging the economy, they well might be right.
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And rumors that McMasters already has a job offer from the Hoover institute, a very highly though of and respected think tank with offices in DC and Stanford.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And people though that Hitler's rants against the Jews were just for political purposes.
I have come to think that if someone says bigoted things and acts like a bigot, it is safest to think he is a bigot.
He's functionally indistinguishable from an ideologue type of bigot in terms of behavior, and really, anyone who's not part of his family or fan club is s*** as far as he's concerned, so it doesn't really matter.
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