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Old 24th April 2019, 11:19 PM   #681
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Her vapid anti-American rants do not automatically equate to being leftist.
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Old 24th April 2019, 11:22 PM   #682
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Originally Posted by Susheel View Post
Her vapid anti-American rants do not automatically equate to being leftist.
Her anti-American rants aren't why we call her leftist.
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Old 25th April 2019, 12:27 AM   #683
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Like somebody said,Trump Enterprises basically is ran like a Mob Family.
I would not be in the least surprised if it turns out that the Trump Organization has had a lot of dealings with A certain Italian American Fraternal Organization.
Well, the reason it's run like a family-run criminal syndicate, is because it's a family-based criminal syndicate. The Mob basically figured out how to run such a group efficiently, and Dolt 45 is like a funhouse-mirror version - similar, in form, though distorted and incredibly tacky in any setting outside of entertainment.
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Old 25th April 2019, 05:47 AM   #684
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I'll bet those concrete samples always passed.

That was part of the fraud. Instead of performing actual compression tests (placing cured concrete cylinders in a hydraulic press to determine their breaking point), they were using computer simulations.
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Old 27th April 2019, 04:04 AM   #685
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Old 27th April 2019, 05:29 AM   #686
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
That was part of the fraud. Instead of performing actual compression tests (placing cured concrete cylinders in a hydraulic press to determine their breaking point), they were using computer simulations.
I asume the reference to a concrete framed building when a steel framed building would be expected is Trump Tower. Trump Tower was constructed between 1979 and 1983 with the main structural RC being in the earlier years. Forget the idea that computer simulation was carried out.

Cheating in concrete compression tests is carried out in 2 ways. 1. use an incorrectly calibrated hydraulic compression test machine that gives a higher strength than is the case. 2.,and more simply, just don't record any failures and instead record a pass. In those days results were recorded by hand probably with a carbon paper copy.
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Old 27th April 2019, 05:31 AM   #687
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
But how will the NRA get Russian money now?!?
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Old 27th April 2019, 05:33 AM   #688
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But how will the NRA get Russian money now?!?
They aren't, which is why Oliver North wants to get rid of LaPierre.
The NRA won't have any money to play with in the 2020 elections.
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Old 27th April 2019, 05:48 AM   #689
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Originally Posted by Upchurch View Post
But how will the NRA get Russian money now?!?
They need it now more than ever. The showdown between Oliver North and Wayne Lapierre over which one of them is defrauding the NRA is a fun subplot to this.

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Old 27th April 2019, 11:36 PM   #690
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
They aren't, which is why Oliver North wants to get rid of LaPierre.
The NRA won't have any money to play with in the 2020 elections.
I wouldn't count them out yet. Criminal organizations have a way of materializing money that they need.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:38 AM   #691
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I wouldn't count them out yet. Criminal organizations have a way of materializing money that they need.
“It would be a shame if some loyal NRA members have to [wink wink, nudge nudge] use a few guns to rob nassessty Federal Banks to support us.”
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
They aren't, which is why Oliver North wants to get rid of LaPierre.
The NRA won't have any money to play with in the 2020 elections.
Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
They need it now more than ever. The showdown between Oliver North and Wayne Lapierre over which one of them is defrauding the NRA is a fun subplot to this.

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They need it now more than ever. The showdown between Oliver North and Wayne Lapierre over which one of them is defrauding the NRA is a fun subplot to this.

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What a **** show. This is the grade of person the lobbying industry attracts.
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OMG OMG OMG Trump and Putin just had a phone call. And if we compare what Trump says were the topics to what the Kremlin says, one thing stands out: The Kremlin doesn't mention any "Russian Hoax"!!!!!!1
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John Bolton was even more awkward and rude than normal when CNN asked him yesterday whether there was (as reported) a phone call coming up between Trump and Putin. What a tool.
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Old 4th May 2019, 09:16 AM   #696
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Originally Posted by autumn1971 View Post
“It would be a shame if some loyal NRA members have to [wink wink, nudge nudge] use a few guns to rob nassessty Federal Banks to support us.”
Has this a meaning?
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Old 6th May 2019, 10:54 AM   #697
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“It would be a shame if some loyal NRA members have to [wink wink, nudge nudge] use a few guns to rob nassessty Federal Banks to support us.”
Has this a meaning?
Probably a reference to the election campaign, where Trump suggested that if Clinton won, maybe some '2nd amendment' people might take action.

Seen as a threat by many, but with enough plausible deniability for Trump to claim "Oh, I meant they would protest/launch court cases/etc."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nton/88479722/
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Has this a meaning?
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Probably a reference to the election campaign, where Trump suggested that if Clinton won, maybe some '2nd amendment' people might take action.

Seen as a threat by many, but with enough plausible deniability for Trump to claim "Oh, I meant they would protest/launch court cases/etc."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nton/88479722/
Also, it casts the NRA as a cross between a mob enforcer and Gollum-like character.
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OMG OMG OMG Trump and Putin just had a phone call. And if we compare what Trump says were the topics to what the Kremlin says, one thing stands out: The Kremlin doesn't mention any "Russian Hoax"!!!!!!1
That Tweet from The PDJT is three days old. Now he's saying the subject never came up.
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That Tweet from The PDJT is three days old. Now he's saying the subject never came up.
I thought that Trump said the subject of interference in the upcoming election didn't come up. He stands by the conversation about the "Russian Hoax", claiming that Putin smiled over the phone or something. (Maybe it was a video phone, who knows?)
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(Maybe it was a video phone, who knows?)
Fun fact - Trump used to make $450,000 per year endorsing a scammy pyramid scheme for video phone service!

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That Tweet from The PDJT is three days old. Now he's saying the subject never came up.

Is he? I follow his tweets but not his interactions with the Mighty Wurlitzer. I suspect that this take covers the issue as the lady is, like yours truly, days ahead of what you end up being told by the propaganda machine and might feel like sharing with us.
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Is he? I follow his tweets but not his interactions with the Mighty Wurlitzer. I suspect that this take covers the issue as the lady is, like yours truly, days ahead of what you end up being told by the propaganda machine and might feel like sharing with us.
I only got through the headline and the featured photo in that link and that was enough to know the article would be a worthless read.

I could be wrong about what I said earlier -- I may have conflated the two similar issues.
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I only got through the headline and the featured photo in that link and that was enough to know the article would be a worthless read.

Caitlin Johnstone. Author of The Complete Book of Astrology (2003). Available as a Kindle edition.

Where does CE find these people? Does it come in as part of a daily briefing?
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Caitlin Johnstone. Author of The Complete Book of Astrology (2003). Available as a Kindle edition.

Where does CE find these people? Does it come in as part of a daily briefing?

Originally Posted by Caitlin Johnstone
[...] And yes, I have written a book on astrology, once many years ago as one of the many, many jobs I took to feed my children while I was struggling to support myself through university. I also wrote a book on how to play the harmonica. I was commissioned to do these in my capacity as a writer; they were not pitched by me, the company asked me to write them. In the four years it took me to complete my journalism degree, I had two pregnancies, two babies and wrote multiple books for this gift book company, often writing well into the night, breastfeeding at the same time. Damn anyone who makes that a bad thing. Like many young moms, I was superhuman in my efforts to support my babies and I refuse to be shamed for my achievements, such as they are. Those books are well written. I might not be an astrologer or a harmonica player or whatever but I did the subject justice and produced good work.

You’re welcome to have opinions about my writing but you are not welcome to publish falsehoods about me. I am not a Russian propagandist, I am a Melbourne mother and a reader-supported journalist who graduated with distinction from the most esteemed journalism program in Australia. I am a flawed human being, and I’m sure you can pick holes in that, but you’ll have to limit yourselves to flaws that actually exist. [...]

Hmm. Where does quadraginta find these smears? Does it come in as part of a daily briefing?
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I could be wrong about what I said earlier -- I may have conflated the two similar issues.

You mean Trump didn't contradict himself and now claims that the "Russian Hoax" didn't come up in the phone call? Or what?
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
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Where does quadraginta find these smears? Does it come in as part of a daily briefing?

That is possible, of course, but it might also (more likely, in fact) have been one of the first things that came up in a browser search when I looked up the name.

Since I had never heard of her before.

A name which was provided, I should mention, from a link which you chose to post.

And why is that a smear? Are you ashamed that your citation is best known for her contribution to the popular field of astrology?

(From your quote it may be that she is, so perhaps you are right.)

Now you get to tell us how you discovered her.




ETA: I was unable to review the link you provided in your post, since, having linked to the other one apparently I have to subscribe via Google or Facebook to see this second one. No thanks.
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That is possible, of course, but it might also (more likely, in fact) have been one of the first things that came up in a browser search when I looked up the name.

Since I had never heard of her before.

A name which was provided, I should mention, from a link which you chose to post.

And why is that a smear? Are you ashamed that your citation is best known for her contribution to the popular field of astrology?

(From your quote it may be that she is, so perhaps you are right.)

Now you get to tell us how you discovered her.

ETA: I was unable to review the link you provided in your post, since, having linked to the other one apparently I have to subscribe via Google or Facebook to see this second one. No thanks.

Are you claiming that her astrology book was "one of the first things" you found googling her? This is obviously untrue. You found some propaganda article where her astrology book was used to smear her. Written to be found by you. I suggest you read her article again using critical thinking, not random internet search results. Trust your own judgement.
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Trust your own judgement.
Isn't that what Quad just did? I think you really mean "Trust Childlike Empress's judgement."
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Isn't that what Quad just did?

Nope, "quad" inserted therselve into an argument I had with alfaniner mouthing off about how unreliable Caitlin Johnstone is with a smear about a book she wrote on demand as a young mother 15 years ago. Producing noise without adding anything to the original argument, just like yourself.
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Nope, "quad" inserted therselve into an argument I had with alfaniner mouthing off about how unreliable Caitlin Johnstone is with a smear about a book she wrote on demand as a young mother 15 years ago. Producing noise without adding anything to the original argument, just like yourself.
You're just evading and posting everything but what you really mean which is "Trust Childlike Empress's judgement and Putin."
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
You're just evading and posting everything but what you really mean which is "Trust Childlike Empress's judgement and Putin."

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Fun fact - Trump used to make $450,000 per year endorsing a scammy pyramid scheme for video phone service!
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That's more evidence that Trump likely lives pretty much hand-to-mouth. Can you imagine real billionaires slapping their names on steak, neckties, bottled water etc., etc.?
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That's more evidence that Trump likely lives pretty much hand-to-mouth. Can you imagine real billionaires slapping their names on steak, neckties, bottled water etc., etc.?

Of course not. Real billionaires are holier than we. God likes them very much. And so should we. They are always sirius.

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Are you claiming that her astrology book was "one of the first things" you found googling her? This is obviously untrue. You found some propaganda article where her astrology book was used to smear her. Written to be found by you. I suggest you read her article again using critical thinking, not random internet search results. Trust your own judgement.
You are wrong. I don't know how individual Google searches are, but I searched on her name and on the first page, top right:

Caitlin Johnstone
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Books: The Complete Book of Astrology, MORE

...in a rectangle, clearly.
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You're just evading and posting everything but what you really mean which is "Trust Childlike Empress's judgement and Putin."
Well, CE *did* say the author was days ahead of the mainstream. Isn't that what astrologers claim to be able to do?
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You are wrong. I don't know how individual Google searches are, but I searched on her name and on the first page, top right:

Caitlin Johnstone
Author
Books: The Complete Book of Astrology, MORE

...in a rectangle, clearly.

WOW. I tried it and you are right. There's a special little box just connecting her to that book. That is quite an extreme measure by our google behemoth friends. I have thought for a while that she is maybe the most dangerous writer to certain interests today. Extremely effective.

My apologies to quadraginta.
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Oh, and how I discovered Caitlin Johnstone: On twitter. People I follow retweeted her.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
WOW. I tried it and you are right. There's a special little box just connecting her to that book. That is quite an extreme measure by our google behemoth friends. I have thought for a while that she is maybe the most dangerous writer to certain interests today. Extremely effective.

My apologies to quadraginta.
LOL. Google is in on the conspiracy........
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
LOL. Google is in on the conspiracy........

Why do you think this "infobox" exists?
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