On the Recall of CA GNuesom

Caroline13 · 4th August 2021, 02:22 PM

Just sent this note to a long time STUCK Dem who cannot see or want to see what Neusome has done to Califironia.

Just listened to John Phillips on KABC, I hear him every day, and he has callers about the recall of Gruesom....and MOST that called in were lifelong Dems and now Independents. And one guy called in and said one has to be deaf, dumb and blind to want to keep the Warden. The rich hypocrite French Laundry warden, normal price of French Laundry dinner is $355 and that's where he entertained a bunch of his cronies all unmasked. After he locked businesses down and pushed masks.

What has pushed most over, is the Covid lockdowns, and the decades of Homeless.

And other woman called in same political credentials, and said CA has turned into a toilet and this once Golden State is no longer, and more leaving than coming in, that's not how it's been.

If you don't see this Jennie, then look at the 3 words above. j

BTW: I've been here over 55 yrs from the East and housing has always been out of sight and NOW, hard to grasp it all. Technology did so much too, push the costs of housing over the roof.

A little shack type house in San Jose (silicon valley) is well over a Million and many over 2million and not talking estates....

Stacyhs · 4th August 2021, 02:30 PM

You might start by learning how to spell Newsom.

Cain · 4th August 2021, 02:35 PM

California needs to rewrite its threshold on signatures to trigger a recall (or abolish the recall altogether). It's ridiculous that a new governor can be installed with a fraction of the vote.

Caroline13 · 4th August 2021, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

You might start by learning how to spell Newsom.

Oh bull, I know how, but to many of us he's the Warden, Gruesom and more names. And Adolph .. Oh it is Newsom, I don't care, he's a Big Zero to me.

acbytesla · 4th August 2021, 02:46 PM

I find it funny that Caroline wants to blame Newsom for problems that existed long before he became Governor.

Tech and Sunshine made California rich. For 70 years no one has done anything about these issues. And homelessness is a national problem that the federal government has failed to address. That it might be worse in California has more to do with climate than leadership. I mean if you don't have a roof over your head, it is better outside in a warmer climate than an area where you're likely to die from exposure.

Stacyhs · 4th August 2021, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Oh bull, I know how, but to many of us he's the Warden, Gruesom and more names. And Adolph .. Oh it is Newsom, I don't care, he's a Big Zero to me.

To many of you Trump is The Chosen One. 'Nuff said.

RecoveringYuppy · 4th August 2021, 03:10 PM

This recall election is expected to cost a quarter billion dollars to run.

SuburbanTurkey · 4th August 2021, 03:12 PM

Interesting that there seems to be a coalition to get this guy out of office. Much of the coverage seems to focus on right wing cranks that hate Newsom for covid-19 restrictions and other nutty pet issues, but the recall wouldn't be polling so close unless there was also some dissent among liberal voters.

It's going to be a bitter victory for right wingers if they win, Newsom will be just replaced by another Democrat. It's not like hating Newsom means the state is MAGA country now.

tyr_13 · 4th August 2021, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Interesting that there seems to be a coalition to get this guy out of office. Much of the coverage seems to focus on right wing cranks that hate Newsom for covid-19 restrictions and other nutty pet issues, but the recall wouldn't be polling so close unless there was also some dissent among liberal voters.

It's going to be a bitter victory for right wingers if they win, Newsom will be just replaced by another Democrat. It's not like hating Newsom means the state is MAGA country now.

Unless an old US Senator from California dies, the GOP get to pick a GOP replacement, and the Senate goes under their control. The GOP in power in the US legislature would right now would ensure the end of our democracy.

Warp12 · 4th August 2021, 03:28 PM

Apparently there is a God.

dudalb · 4th August 2021, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Interesting that there seems to be a coalition to get this guy out of office. Much of the coverage seems to focus on right wing cranks that hate Newsom for covid-19 restrictions and other nutty pet issues, but the recall wouldn't be polling so close unless there was also some dissent among liberal voters.

It's going to be a bitter victory for right wingers if they win, Newsom will be just replaced by another Democrat. It's not like hating Newsom means the state is MAGA country now.

Newsom , early on, mishandled the COvid crisis, and then did one of the most incredibly stupid things I have ever seen a politician ever do with the French Laundry incident. Renting out one of the fanciest and most expensive restaurants in California for a fund raiser while announcing that most restaurants in California would have to shut down was incredibly stupid.
I am voting against the recall, but I will do so holding my nose since I think Newsom has not done a good job as governor.
interesting that that anti recall campaign is going very heavy on this being engineered by the Trumpers, and avoiding mentioning Newsom. Most of the commercials don't even mention Newsom.

dudalb · 4th August 2021, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Unless an old US Senator from California dies, the GOP get to pick a GOP replacement, and the Senate goes under their control. The GOP in power in the US legislature would right now would ensure the end of our democracy.

But the guy would be senator only until a special election, which a Democrat would be strongly favored to win.

acbytesla · 4th August 2021, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Unless an old US Senator from California dies, the GOP get to pick a GOP replacement, and the Senate goes under their control. The GOP in power in the US legislature would right now would ensure the end of our democracy.

That's not how it works. Feinstein was just reelected. She has 6 years on her term. Padilla is the other US Senator who replaced Kamala Harris in January. He will be the Jr. Senator until the 2022 General election.

acbytesla · 4th August 2021, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

But the guy would be senator only until a special election, which a Democrat would be strongly favored to win.

Newsom is Governor...not Senator.

dudalb · 4th August 2021, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Newsom is Governor...not Senator.

Who Said I was talking about Newsom. I was talking about a hypothtical situation where a GOP Governor replaces Newsom and makes a Senatorial replacment.

Caroline13 · 4th August 2021, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

I find it funny that Caroline wants to blame Newsom for problems that existed long before he became Governor.

Tech and Sunshine made California rich. For 70 years no one has done anything about these issues. And homelessness is a national problem that the federal government has failed to address. That it might be worse in California has more to do with climate than leadership. I mean if you don't have a roof over your head, it is better outside in a warmer climate than an area where you're likely to die from exposure.

Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over....Homeless has been an issue since I recall early 90's, late 80's.....

There are about 4 recalls going on now.

acbytesla · 4th August 2021, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over....Homeless has been an issue since I recall early 90's, late 80's.....

There are about 4 recalls going on now.

The COVID lockdowns make sense. Only a partisan idiot would think this is reason to recall.

acbytesla · 4th August 2021, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Who Said I was talking about Newsom. I was talking about a hypothtical situation where a GOP Governor replaces Newsom and makes a Senatorial replacment.

Who's he gonna replace? Yes if Feinstein or Padilla die. Sure.

theprestige · 4th August 2021, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

This recall election is expected to cost a quarter billion dollars to run.

There's a lot worse things to spend money on, besides constitutional democratic processes.

mgidm86 · 4th August 2021, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

The COVID lockdowns make sense. Only a partisan idiot would think this is reason to recall.

They don't need no stinking reasons! There have been many attempts by Republicans to recall Newsom, this is just the one that stuck. It's the fourth or fifth attempt at least.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/rec...ecall-attempts

acbytesla · 4th August 2021, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by mgidm86

They don't need no stinking reasons! There have been many attempts by Republicans to recall Newsom, this is just the one that stuck. It's the fourth or fifth attempt at least.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/rec...ecall-attempts

I know. Any port in the storm. They just want a GOP Governor.

sir drinks-a-lot · 4th August 2021, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Oh bull, I know how, but to many of us he's the Warden, Gruesom and more names. And Adolph .. Oh it is Newsom, I don't care, he's a Big Zero to me.

I get what you're trying to do - you're trying to combine Gavin Newsom's last name with the word "gruesome" to let people know what you think of him in a creative manner. But you're screwing it up. His real name is Gavin Newsom, so you should be using "Grewsom", or "Grewsome" or something similar, not Gruesom and definitely not GNuesom. That last one really spoils the joke.

You can even mix in "Nussolini" just to keep things fresh. Best of luck.

theprestige · 4th August 2021, 06:38 PM

nvm

tyr_13 · 4th August 2021, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

That's not how it works. Feinstein was just reelected. She has 6 years on her term. Padilla is the other US Senator who replaced Kamala Harris in January. He will be the Jr. Senator until the 2022 General election.

You seem confused. Padilla was appointed by Newsom. If Newsom was replaced and either Senator died, like someone Feinstein's age isn't unlikely to do, then a GOP governor would appoint a Republican to finish the term.

Stacyhs · 4th August 2021, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

You seem confused. Padilla was appointed by Newsom. If Newsom was replaced and either Senator died, like someone Feinstein's age isn't unlikely to do, then a GOP governor would appoint a Republican to finish the term.

Not true. California, like 36 other states, requires that the governor appoint an interim senator from the same party as the seat vacated. The party presents the governor with a list of three possible appointees and s/he must choose one of those three.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...637302453.aspx

uke2se · 5th August 2021, 05:07 AM

Would a successful recall automatically give the governorship to the GOP?

SuburbanTurkey · 5th August 2021, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by uke2se

Would a successful recall automatically give the governorship to the GOP?

The recall ballot asks

1) should the schmuck be recalled

2) if yes, who should replace them

Candidates for the recall ballot have already been selected, the deadline to qualify has passed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_C...ied_candidates

I'm not following this closely, but I don't see why anyone should assume a Republican would win. I suppose it's possible because an anti-Newsom vote might draw better turnout from conservatives than liberals, but who knows.

uke2se · 5th August 2021, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

The recall ballot asks

1) should the schmuck be recalled

2) if yes, who should replace them

Candidates for the recall ballot have already been selected, the deadline to qualify has passed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_C...ied_candidates

I'm not following this closely, but I don't see why anyone should assume a Republican would win. I suppose it's possible because an anti-Newsom vote might draw better turnout from conservatives than liberals, but who knows.

From that list, there seems to be more establishment Republicans running than Democrats.

SuburbanTurkey · 5th August 2021, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by uke2se

From that list, there seems to be more establishment Republicans running than Democrats.

Perhaps that could be an issue. Maybe regular Democrats were afraid to sign on to the ballot because doing so is a tacit endorsement of the removal effort.

If there's nobody good on the Democratic side of things, that might drive liberal voters to begrudgingly vote against removal.

uke2se · 5th August 2021, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Perhaps that could be an issue. Maybe regular Democrats were afraid to sign on to the ballot because doing so is a tacit endorsement of the removal effort.

If there's nobody good on the Democratic side of things, that might drive liberal voters to begrudgingly vote against removal.

One can hope. Dunno about Newsom. Seems like a bit of a prick, but he's going to be better than any Republican.

carlitos · 5th August 2021, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over....Homeless has been an issue since I recall early 90's, late 80's.....

Republican Governors George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't solve the homeless issue? Weird.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Not true. California, like 36 other states, requires that the governor appoint an interim senator from the same party as the seat vacated. The party presents the governor with a list of three possible appointees and s/he must choose one of those three.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...637302453.aspx

I did not know that. Thanks.

plague311 · 5th August 2021, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

I get what you're trying to do - you're trying to combine Gavin Newsom's last name with the word "gruesome" to let people know what you think of him in a creative manner. But you're screwing it up. His real name is Gavin Newsom, so you should be using "Grewsom", or "Grewsome" or something similar, not Gruesom and definitely not GNuesom. That last one really spoils the joke.

You can even mix in "Nussolini" just to keep things fresh. Best of luck.

Or El Grueserino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

acbytesla · 5th August 2021, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

You seem confused. Padilla was appointed by Newsom. If Newsom was replaced and either Senator died, like someone Feinstein's age isn't unlikely to do, then a GOP governor would appoint a Republican to finish the term.

I get that. But you're depending on them dying.

Myriad · 5th August 2021, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Caroline13

And other woman called in same political credentials, and said CA has turned into a toilet and this once Golden State is no longer, and more leaving than coming in, that's not how it's been.

Good. In two generations the entirety of California east of the coastal mountain ranges will be well on its way to becoming uninhabitable desert. The more people who leave and the sooner they do so, the better.

dudalb · 5th August 2021, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

The COVID lockdowns make sense. Only a partisan idiot would think this is reason to recall.

And the criticism of Newsom from a lot of Democrats is he lifted them too soon.
I will vote against the recall, but hold my nose while doing so because Newsom has not been a very good governor but nothing he had done desreves a recall.

tyr_13 · 5th August 2021, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Not true. California, like 36 other states, requires that the governor appoint an interim senator from the same party as the seat vacated. The party presents the governor with a list of three possible appointees and s/he must choose one of those three.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...637302453.aspx

Oh good. Thanks for the correction!

Craig4 · 5th August 2021, 11:58 PM

Have you seen the Star Wars bar scene of creatures running to replace the current governor? Kaitlin Jenner is the most stable of the lot. The rest don't even qualify as being human. What a bunch of failed genetic experiments. https://calmatters.org/explainers/ne...ll-candidates/

Norman Alexander · 6th August 2021, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Have you seen the Star Wars bar scene of creatures running to replace the current governor? Kaitlin Jenner is the most stable of the lot. The rest don't even qualify as being human. What a bunch of failed genetic experiments. https://calmatters.org/explainers/ne...ll-candidates/

Is there REALLY a place called Shingle Springs in the USA? Really??

Yep.

Damn...

Darat · 6th August 2021, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Have you seen the Star Wars bar scene of creatures running to replace the current governor? Kaitlin Jenner is the most stable of the lot. The rest don't even qualify as being human. What a bunch of failed genetic experiments. https://calmatters.org/explainers/ne...ll-candidates/

It's really strange I think to most of us outside the USA that you have all these candidates running as "republicans" or "democrats". Who decides that?

PhantomWolf · 6th August 2021, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over

Because of course if there is something that no Republicans wants, it is a Governor who is Pro-Life when it comes to preventing people from dying of a virus that has claimed the lives of over 600,000 Americans.

4th August 2021, 02:22 PM	#1
Caroline13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: So Calif. Posts: 1,317	On the Recall of CA GNuesom Just sent this note to a long time STUCK Dem who cannot see or want to see what Neusome has done to Califironia. Just listened to John Phillips on KABC, I hear him every day, and he has callers about the recall of Gruesom....and MOST that called in were lifelong Dems and now Independents. And one guy called in and said one has to be deaf, dumb and blind to want to keep the Warden. The rich hypocrite French Laundry warden, normal price of French Laundry dinner is $355 and that's where he entertained a bunch of his cronies all unmasked. After he locked businesses down and pushed masks. What has pushed most over, is the Covid lockdowns, and the decades of Homeless. And other woman called in same political credentials, and said CA has turned into a toilet and this once Golden State is no longer, and more leaving than coming in, that's not how it's been. If you don't see this Jennie, then look at the 3 words above. j BTW: I've been here over 55 yrs from the East and housing has always been out of sight and NOW, hard to grasp it all. Technology did so much too, push the costs of housing over the roof. A little shack type house in San Jose (silicon valley) is well over a Million and many over 2million and not talking estates....

4th August 2021, 02:35 PM	#3
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 15,116	California needs to rewrite its threshold on signatures to trigger a recall (or abolish the recall altogether). It's ridiculous that a new governor can be installed with a fraction of the vote.
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4th August 2021, 02:35 PM	#4
Caroline13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: So Calif. Posts: 1,317	Originally Posted by Stacyhs You might start by learning how to spell Newsom. Oh bull, I know how, but to many of us he's the Warden, Gruesom and more names. And Adolph .. Oh it is Newsom, I don't care, he's a Big Zero to me.
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4th August 2021, 02:46 PM	#5
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	I find it funny that Caroline wants to blame Newsom for problems that existed long before he became Governor. Tech and Sunshine made California rich. For 70 years no one has done anything about these issues. And homelessness is a national problem that the federal government has failed to address. That it might be worse in California has more to do with climate than leadership. I mean if you don't have a roof over your head, it is better outside in a warmer climate than an area where you're likely to die from exposure.
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4th August 2021, 03:24 PM	#9
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17,166	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Interesting that there seems to be a coalition to get this guy out of office. Much of the coverage seems to focus on right wing cranks that hate Newsom for covid-19 restrictions and other nutty pet issues, but the recall wouldn't be polling so close unless there was also some dissent among liberal voters. It's going to be a bitter victory for right wingers if they win, Newsom will be just replaced by another Democrat. It's not like hating Newsom means the state is MAGA country now. Unless an old US Senator from California dies, the GOP get to pick a GOP replacement, and the Senate goes under their control. The GOP in power in the US legislature would right now would ensure the end of our democracy.
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4th August 2021, 02:30 PM	#2
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 26,045	You might start by learning how to spell Newsom.

4th August 2021, 03:09 PM	#6
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 26,045	Originally Posted by Caroline13 Oh bull, I know how, but to many of us he's the Warden, Gruesom and more names. And Adolph .. Oh it is Newsom, I don't care, he's a Big Zero to me. To many of you Trump is The Chosen One. 'Nuff said.

4th August 2021, 03:10 PM	#7
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13,585	This recall election is expected to cost a quarter billion dollars to run.

4th August 2021, 03:12 PM	#8
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	Interesting that there seems to be a coalition to get this guy out of office. Much of the coverage seems to focus on right wing cranks that hate Newsom for covid-19 restrictions and other nutty pet issues, but the recall wouldn't be polling so close unless there was also some dissent among liberal voters. It's going to be a bitter victory for right wingers if they win, Newsom will be just replaced by another Democrat. It's not like hating Newsom means the state is MAGA country now.

4th August 2021, 03:28 PM	#10
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4th August 2021, 03:34 PM	#11
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,961	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Interesting that there seems to be a coalition to get this guy out of office. Much of the coverage seems to focus on right wing cranks that hate Newsom for covid-19 restrictions and other nutty pet issues, but the recall wouldn't be polling so close unless there was also some dissent among liberal voters. It's going to be a bitter victory for right wingers if they win, Newsom will be just replaced by another Democrat. It's not like hating Newsom means the state is MAGA country now. Newsom , early on, mishandled the COvid crisis, and then did one of the most incredibly stupid things I have ever seen a politician ever do with the French Laundry incident. Renting out one of the fanciest and most expensive restaurants in California for a fund raiser while announcing that most restaurants in California would have to shut down was incredibly stupid. I am voting against the recall, but I will do so holding my nose since I think Newsom has not done a good job as governor. interesting that that anti recall campaign is going very heavy on this being engineered by the Trumpers, and avoiding mentioning Newsom. Most of the commercials don't even mention Newsom.
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4th August 2021, 03:36 PM	#12
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,961	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Unless an old US Senator from California dies, the GOP get to pick a GOP replacement, and the Senate goes under their control. The GOP in power in the US legislature would right now would ensure the end of our democracy. But the guy would be senator only until a special election, which a Democrat would be strongly favored to win.
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4th August 2021, 04:02 PM	#13
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Unless an old US Senator from California dies, the GOP get to pick a GOP replacement, and the Senate goes under their control. The GOP in power in the US legislature would right now would ensure the end of our democracy. That's not how it works. Feinstein was just reelected. She has 6 years on her term. Padilla is the other US Senator who replaced Kamala Harris in January. He will be the Jr. Senator until the 2022 General election.
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4th August 2021, 04:03 PM	#14
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	Originally Posted by dudalb But the guy would be senator only until a special election, which a Democrat would be strongly favored to win. Newsom is Governor...not Senator.
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4th August 2021, 04:15 PM	#15
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,961	Originally Posted by acbytesla Newsom is Governor...not Senator. Who Said I was talking about Newsom. I was talking about a hypothtical situation where a GOP Governor replaces Newsom and makes a Senatorial replacment.
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4th August 2021, 04:18 PM	#16
Caroline13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: So Calif. Posts: 1,317	Originally Posted by acbytesla I find it funny that Caroline wants to blame Newsom for problems that existed long before he became Governor. Tech and Sunshine made California rich. For 70 years no one has done anything about these issues. And homelessness is a national problem that the federal government has failed to address. That it might be worse in California has more to do with climate than leadership. I mean if you don't have a roof over your head, it is better outside in a warmer climate than an area where you're likely to die from exposure. Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over....Homeless has been an issue since I recall early 90's, late 80's..... There are about 4 recalls going on now.

4th August 2021, 04:24 PM	#17
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	Originally Posted by Caroline13 Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over....Homeless has been an issue since I recall early 90's, late 80's..... There are about 4 recalls going on now. The COVID lockdowns make sense. Only a partisan idiot would think this is reason to recall.
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4th August 2021, 04:27 PM	#18
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	Originally Posted by dudalb Who Said I was talking about Newsom. I was talking about a hypothtical situation where a GOP Governor replaces Newsom and makes a Senatorial replacment. Who's he gonna replace? Yes if Feinstein or Padilla die. Sure.
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4th August 2021, 04:34 PM	#19
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 60,285	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy This recall election is expected to cost a quarter billion dollars to run. There's a lot worse things to spend money on, besides constitutional democratic processes.
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4th August 2021, 05:19 PM	#20
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,890	Originally Posted by acbytesla The COVID lockdowns make sense. Only a partisan idiot would think this is reason to recall. They don't need no stinking reasons! There have been many attempts by Republicans to recall Newsom, this is just the one that stuck. It's the fourth or fifth attempt at least. https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/rec...ecall-attempts
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4th August 2021, 05:33 PM	#21
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	Originally Posted by mgidm86 They don't need no stinking reasons! There have been many attempts by Republicans to recall Newsom, this is just the one that stuck. It's the fourth or fifth attempt at least. https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/rec...ecall-attempts I know. Any port in the storm. They just want a GOP Governor.
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4th August 2021, 05:43 PM	#22
sir drinks-a-lot Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cole Valley, CA Posts: 5,153	Originally Posted by Caroline13 Oh bull, I know how, but to many of us he's the Warden, Gruesom and more names. And Adolph .. Oh it is Newsom, I don't care, he's a Big Zero to me. I get what you're trying to do - you're trying to combine Gavin Newsom's last name with the word "gruesome" to let people know what you think of him in a creative manner. But you're screwing it up. His real name is Gavin Newsom, so you should be using "Grewsom", or "Grewsome" or something similar, not Gruesom and definitely not GNuesom. That last one really spoils the joke. You can even mix in "Nussolini" just to keep things fresh. Best of luck.
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4th August 2021, 06:38 PM	#23
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4th August 2021, 10:05 PM	#24
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17,166	Originally Posted by acbytesla That's not how it works. Feinstein was just reelected. She has 6 years on her term. Padilla is the other US Senator who replaced Kamala Harris in January. He will be the Jr. Senator until the 2022 General election. You seem confused. Padilla was appointed by Newsom. If Newsom was replaced and either Senator died, like someone Feinstein's age isn't unlikely to do, then a GOP governor would appoint a Republican to finish the term.
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4th August 2021, 10:35 PM	#25
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 26,045	Originally Posted by tyr_13 You seem confused. Padilla was appointed by Newsom. If Newsom was replaced and either Senator died, like someone Feinstein's age isn't unlikely to do, then a GOP governor would appoint a Republican to finish the term. Not true. California, like 36 other states, requires that the governor appoint an interim senator from the same party as the seat vacated. The party presents the governor with a list of three possible appointees and s/he must choose one of those three. https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...637302453.aspx

5th August 2021, 05:07 AM	#26
uke2se Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 14,261	Would a successful recall automatically give the governorship to the GOP?
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5th August 2021, 05:15 AM	#27
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	Originally Posted by uke2se Would a successful recall automatically give the governorship to the GOP? The recall ballot asks 1) should the schmuck be recalled 2) if yes, who should replace them Candidates for the recall ballot have already been selected, the deadline to qualify has passed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_C...ied_candidates I'm not following this closely, but I don't see why anyone should assume a Republican would win. I suppose it's possible because an anti-Newsom vote might draw better turnout from conservatives than liberals, but who knows.

5th August 2021, 05:31 AM	#28
uke2se Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 14,261	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey The recall ballot asks 1) should the schmuck be recalled 2) if yes, who should replace them Candidates for the recall ballot have already been selected, the deadline to qualify has passed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_C...ied_candidates I'm not following this closely, but I don't see why anyone should assume a Republican would win. I suppose it's possible because an anti-Newsom vote might draw better turnout from conservatives than liberals, but who knows. From that list, there seems to be more establishment Republicans running than Democrats.
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5th August 2021, 05:35 AM	#29
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	Originally Posted by uke2se From that list, there seems to be more establishment Republicans running than Democrats. Perhaps that could be an issue. Maybe regular Democrats were afraid to sign on to the ballot because doing so is a tacit endorsement of the removal effort. If there's nobody good on the Democratic side of things, that might drive liberal voters to begrudgingly vote against removal.

5th August 2021, 05:47 AM	#30
uke2se Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 14,261	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Perhaps that could be an issue. Maybe regular Democrats were afraid to sign on to the ballot because doing so is a tacit endorsement of the removal effort. If there's nobody good on the Democratic side of things, that might drive liberal voters to begrudgingly vote against removal. One can hope. Dunno about Newsom. Seems like a bit of a prick, but he's going to be better than any Republican.
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5th August 2021, 06:47 AM	#31
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 24,384	Originally Posted by Caroline13 Covid lockdowns and closed schools pushed it Over....Homeless has been an issue since I recall early 90's, late 80's..... Republican Governors George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't solve the homeless issue? Weird. Originally Posted by Stacyhs Not true. California, like 36 other states, requires that the governor appoint an interim senator from the same party as the seat vacated. The party presents the governor with a list of three possible appointees and s/he must choose one of those three. https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...637302453.aspx I did not know that. Thanks.

5th August 2021, 06:54 AM	#32
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,981	Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot I get what you're trying to do - you're trying to combine Gavin Newsom's last name with the word "gruesome" to let people know what you think of him in a creative manner. But you're screwing it up. His real name is Gavin Newsom, so you should be using "Grewsom", or "Grewsome" or something similar, not Gruesom and definitely not GNuesom. That last one really spoils the joke. You can even mix in "Nussolini" just to keep things fresh. Best of luck. Or El Grueserino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
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5th August 2021, 07:05 AM	#33
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30,837	Originally Posted by tyr_13 You seem confused. Padilla was appointed by Newsom. If Newsom was replaced and either Senator died, like someone Feinstein's age isn't unlikely to do, then a GOP governor would appoint a Republican to finish the term. I get that. But you're depending on them dying.
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5th August 2021, 09:23 AM	#34
Myriad The Clarity Is Devastating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Betwixt Posts: 19,243	Originally Posted by Caroline13 And other woman called in same political credentials, and said CA has turned into a toilet and this once Golden State is no longer, and more leaving than coming in, that's not how it's been. Good. In two generations the entirety of California east of the coastal mountain ranges will be well on its way to becoming uninhabitable desert. The more people who leave and the sooner they do so, the better.
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5th August 2021, 04:09 PM	#35
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,961	Originally Posted by acbytesla The COVID lockdowns make sense. Only a partisan idiot would think this is reason to recall. And the criticism of Newsom from a lot of Democrats is he lifted them too soon. I will vote against the recall, but hold my nose while doing so because Newsom has not been a very good governor but nothing he had done desreves a recall.
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