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gabeygoat · 8th November 2021, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

I admit I chuckled.

For real

Norman Alexander · 8th November 2021, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

So the youngster tried twice to get a ballot and vote, even after being told the first time he was ineligible. Not only is he thick or determined to be corrupt, if he had been "immigrant-looking" then he would be in jail already.

Also , this begs the question: Was he the only one? How many OTHER GOP voters, including underage thickheads, tried the same tactic of voting twice or more, and succeeded without being detected?

Answering my own question: It appears that a couple of the youngster's friends did exactly that. Yo! High five, dudes!

theprestige · 9th November 2021, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

I admit I chuckled.

Originally Posted by gabeygoat

For real

It's actually kind of reassuring. We know Warp12 isn't hanging around in the kind of ignorant white people echo chambers where that kind of idea might be commonplace.

Stacyhs · 10th November 2021, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Warp12

Well, of course some people are going think that. Why wouldn't they? I mean you have people like Robin DiAngelo suggesting that white people need to behave in ways that are "less white". Whereas you don't often hear people suggest that black people behave in ways that are "less black".

A lot of people are not going to get behind that use of language.

Warp12 · 10th November 2021, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Warp12

Well, of course some people are going think that. Why wouldn't they? I mean you have people like Robin DiAngelo suggesting that white people need to behave in ways that are "less white". Whereas you don't often hear people suggest that black people behave in ways that are "less black".

A lot of people are not going to get behind that use of language.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...cb4e7d76e5.png

You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits.

For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon.

These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up.

In the meantime, we can all celebrate Youngkin's victory.

Susheel · 11th November 2021, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Warp12

You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits.

For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon.

These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up.

In the meantime, we can all celebrate Youngkin's victory.

Nobody suggested that we did not understand what you meant...we were quite sure exactly what you meant. Thank you for confirming...though it was really not neccessary.

Norman Alexander · 11th November 2021, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Warp12

You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits.

For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon.

These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up.

In the meantime, we can all ~~celebrate~~ accept Youngkin's victory.

Because most of us here are grown-ups.

Meanwhile, there's still some manky brats getting about with confederate flags and guns who have yet to accept the results of the 2020 presidential election. Some even live in big houses in Florida. Perhaps you might tell them that it is OK to accept these sorts of things and to stop pouting.

ahhell · 11th November 2021, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Because most of us here are grown-ups.

I haven't seen much evidence of that.

Beelzebuddy · 11th November 2021, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Warp12

You know exactly what I am saying.

Yes, we all know exactly what you are saying.

Norman Alexander · 11th November 2021, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by ahhell

I haven't seen much evidence of that.

I did say "most" of us here are grown-ups. There's some notable exceptions.

Venom · 11th November 2021, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

It's actually kind of reassuring. We know Warp12 isn't hanging around in the kind of ignorant white people echo chambers where that kind of idea might be commonplace.

Armitage72 · 12th November 2021, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

Nobody suggested that we did not understand what you meant...we were quite sure exactly what you meant. Thank you for confirming...though it was really not neccessary.

These days, young black people are more likely to be told to act "less black" by their parents in an effort to reduce the chance of being shot by the police during a traffic stop.
I remember a TV show from the early 90s in which a black character was embarrassed to admit that, whenever he interacted with the police, he would hike up his pants and act like Steve Urkel to make sure he seemed harmless.

TragicMonkey · 13th November 2021, 08:00 AM

I don't know whether to be relieved or irritated that white supremacists have no notion of code switching.

Carlotta · 13th November 2021, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

I don't know whether to be relieved or irritated that white supremacists have no notion of code switching.

Not to mention the things black women have been coerced to do to their hair in order to get and keep jobs.

Warp12 · 13th November 2021, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Carlotta

Not to mention the things black women have been coerced to do to their hair in order to get and keep jobs.

How exactly does this figure into the election results?

Carlotta · 13th November 2021, 04:42 PM

Pardon me. I thought someone said something about being told to act less black for jobs.

Stacyhs · 14th November 2021, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Carlotta

Not to mention the things black women have been coerced to do to their hair in order to get and keep jobs.

True. From WAPO:

Quote:

"In 2017, at a gala luncheon hosted at the opulent Cipriani 42nd Street in New York, Minda Harts found herself seated next to a recruiter for corporate board positions. Over cocktails and a plated fish entree, the two talked about race in the boardroom; the recruiter, a white woman, complained about the challenges of finding black women to be corporate directors.

To test how she’d respond, Harts, who founded a career development company for women of color and had a book on the topic released in August, asked the recruiter who she would feel more comfortable putting forward as a candidate for a board: a woman of color with a sleek ponytail, or one with a natural hairstyle such as locs or an Afro. The recruiter said the woman with the ponytail, Harts recalled. “The phrase she used was ‘clean-cut,’ ” Harts said.

Quote:

“I’ll be honest with you: I wear my hair straight probably 99 percent of the time because, being in corporate America, I’ve seen how clients who have braids and natural hairstyles can be looked upon.”

You want a job? Change your name from Jamal to James or LaKeesha to Laura:

Quote:

"Every day, a black-name resume is 50 percent less likely to get responded to than a white-name resume," Ross said. "Right? That’s everyday racism."

Quote:

While white-sounding names spurred 50 percent more callbacks than the ones with black-sounding names, black-sounding names were 33 percent less likely to get responded to.

Quote:

"We find little evidence that our results are driven by employers inferring something other than race, such as social class, from the names," their paper states. "These results suggest that racial discrimination is still a prominent feature of the labor market."

Politifact rated this Mostly True.

Yeah, blacks aren't being told to be 'less black and more white'.

Warp12 · 14th November 2021, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Yeah, blacks aren't being told to be 'less black and more white'.

Originally Posted by Warp12

You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits.

For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon.

These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up.

In the meantime, we can all celebrate Youngkin's victory.

Stacy, your comment has nothing to do with Youngkin's victory, or why some may find CRT to be controversial at election time. You have not refuted my above statement in any way.

dudalb · 16th November 2021, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Carlotta

Pardon me. I thought someone said something about being told to act less black for jobs.

And what the hell does less black mean anyway?

dudalb · 16th November 2021, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Warp12

Stacy, your comment has nothing to do with Youngkin's victory, or why some may find CRT to be controversial at election time. You have not refuted my above statement in any way.

I think we have all guessed where this poster is coming from...

Warp12 · 16th November 2021, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

And what the hell does less black mean anyway?

It means about as much as "less white". But, some people can't seem to grasp that, it seems. Instead they buy books to learn how to be "less white", and corporations pay for training materials that push the same ideas. As I say, many people equate this to CRT, and that is where you get the push back at election time.

thaiboxerken · 17th November 2021, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

And what the hell does less black mean anyway?

It means being treated poorly by racists.

8th November 2021, 05:13 PM	#81
gabeygoat Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hard Corvallis Oregon Posts: 1,564	Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy I admit I chuckled. For real
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8th November 2021, 06:22 PM	#82
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 12,000	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander So the youngster tried *twice* to get a ballot and vote, even after being told the first time he was ineligible. Not only is he thick or determined to be corrupt, if he had been "immigrant-looking" then he would be in jail already. Also , this begs the question: Was he the only one? How many OTHER GOP voters, including underage thickheads, tried the same tactic of voting twice or more, and succeeded without being detected? Answering my own question: It appears that a couple of the youngster's friends did exactly that. Yo! High five, dudes!
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9th November 2021, 01:50 PM	#83
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 60,288	Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy I admit I chuckled. Originally Posted by gabeygoat For real It's actually kind of reassuring. We know Warp12 isn't hanging around in the kind of ignorant white people echo chambers where that kind of idea might be commonplace.
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10th November 2021, 11:35 PM	#85
Warp12 Suspended Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 5,941	Originally Posted by Warp12 Well, of course some people are going think that. Why wouldn't they? I mean you have people like Robin DiAngelo suggesting that white people need to behave in ways that are "less white". Whereas you don't often hear people suggest that black people behave in ways that are "less black". A lot of people are not going to get behind that use of language. Originally Posted by Stacyhs http://www.internationalskeptics.com...cb4e7d76e5.png You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits. For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon. These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up. In the meantime, we can all celebrate Youngkin's victory.
	Last edited by Warp12; 11th November 2021 at 12:06 AM.

11th November 2021, 12:15 AM	#86
Susheel Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 2,757	Originally Posted by Warp12 You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits. For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon. These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up. In the meantime, we can all celebrate Youngkin's victory. Nobody suggested that we did not understand what you meant...we were quite sure exactly what you meant. Thank you for confirming...though it was really not neccessary.
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10th November 2021, 11:15 PM	#84
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 26,045	Originally Posted by Warp12 Well, of course some people are going think that. Why wouldn't they? I mean you have people like Robin DiAngelo suggesting that white people need to behave in ways that are "less white". Whereas you don't often hear people suggest that black people behave in ways that are "less black". A lot of people are not going to get behind that use of language.

11th November 2021, 02:16 AM	#87
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 12,000	Originally Posted by Warp12 You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits. For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon. These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up. In the meantime, we can all ~~celebrate~~ accept Youngkin's victory. Because most of us here are grown-ups. Meanwhile, there's still some manky brats getting about with confederate flags and guns who have yet to accept the results of the 2020 presidential election. Some even live in big houses in Florida. Perhaps you might tell them that it is OK to accept these sorts of things and to stop pouting.
	__________________ _{...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015}

11th November 2021, 07:11 AM	#88
ahhell Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 4,532	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Because most of us here are grown-ups. I haven't seen much evidence of that.
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11th November 2021, 09:22 AM	#89
Beelzebuddy Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,062	Originally Posted by Warp12 You know exactly what I am saying. Yes, we all know exactly what you are saying.
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11th November 2021, 06:53 PM	#90
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 12,000	Originally Posted by ahhell I haven't seen much evidence of that. I did say "most" of us here are grown-ups. There's some notable exceptions.
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11th November 2021, 07:09 PM	#91
Venom Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 5,917	Originally Posted by theprestige It's actually kind of reassuring. We know Warp12 isn't hanging around in the kind of ignorant white people echo chambers where that kind of idea might be commonplace.

12th November 2021, 06:47 AM	#92
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,198	Originally Posted by Susheel Nobody suggested that we did not understand what you meant...we were quite sure exactly what you meant. Thank you for confirming...though it was really not neccessary. These days, young black people are more likely to be told to act "less black" by their parents in an effort to reduce the chance of being shot by the police during a traffic stop. I remember a TV show from the early 90s in which a black character was embarrassed to admit that, whenever he interacted with the police, he would hike up his pants and act like Steve Urkel to make sure he seemed harmless.

13th November 2021, 08:00 AM	#93
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 63,509	I don't know whether to be relieved or irritated that white supremacists have no notion of code switching.
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13th November 2021, 04:11 PM	#94
Carlotta Muse Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 849	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey I don't know whether to be relieved or irritated that white supremacists have no notion of code switching. Not to mention the things black women have been coerced to do to their hair in order to get and keep jobs.

13th November 2021, 04:14 PM	#95
Warp12 Suspended Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 5,941	Originally Posted by Carlotta Not to mention the things black women have been coerced to do to their hair in order to get and keep jobs. How exactly does this figure into the election results?
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13th November 2021, 04:42 PM	#96
Carlotta Muse Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 849	Pardon me. I thought someone said something about being told to act less black for jobs.

14th November 2021, 01:14 AM	#97
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 26,045	Originally Posted by Carlotta Not to mention the things black women have been coerced to do to their hair in order to get and keep jobs. True. From WAPO: Quote: "In 2017, at a gala luncheon hosted at the opulent Cipriani 42nd Street in New York, Minda Harts found herself seated next to a recruiter for corporate board positions. Over cocktails and a plated fish entree, the two talked about race in the boardroom; the recruiter, a white woman, complained about the challenges of finding black women to be corporate directors. To test how she’d respond, Harts, who founded a career development company for women of color and had a book on the topic released in August, asked the recruiter who she would feel more comfortable putting forward as a candidate for a board: a woman of color with a sleek ponytail, or one with a natural hairstyle such as locs or an Afro. The recruiter said the woman with the ponytail, Harts recalled. “The phrase she used was ‘clean-cut,’ ” Harts said. Quote: “I’ll be honest with you: I wear my hair straight probably 99 percent of the time because, being in corporate America, I’ve seen how clients who have braids and natural hairstyles can be looked upon.” You want a job? Change your name from Jamal to James or LaKeesha to Laura: Quote: "Every day, a black-name resume is 50 percent less likely to get responded to than a white-name resume," Ross said. "Right? That’s everyday racism." Quote: While white-sounding names spurred 50 percent more callbacks than the ones with black-sounding names, black-sounding names were 33 percent less likely to get responded to. Quote: "We find little evidence that our results are driven by employers inferring something other than race, such as social class, from the names," their paper states. "These results suggest that racial discrimination is still a prominent feature of the labor market." Politifact rated this Mostly True. Yeah, blacks aren't being told to be 'less black and more white'.

14th November 2021, 01:28 AM	#98
Warp12 Suspended Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 5,941	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Yeah, blacks aren't being told to be 'less black and more white'. Originally Posted by Warp12 You know exactly what I am saying. It's not like people are generally celebrating books and training materials that are telling people that "blackness" is defined as a group of all negative traits. For example, if a black person goes to work, they are not likely to be presented with training materials that say, "to be less black is to be less murderous", or "to be less black is to be less lazy". I doubt you will see a best-selling book on "Black Fragility and Thugishness" anytime soon. These stupid racial generalizations have gained a lot of popularity when targeting whites, lately, however. Hence, as I say, you are going to get some pushback from people who equate such stupidity to CRT. Of course, the Democrats just know they are the smartest people in the audience, and they make that clear to voters. I hope they keep it up. In the meantime, we can all celebrate Youngkin's victory. Stacy, your comment has nothing to do with Youngkin's victory, or why some may find CRT to be controversial at election time. You have not refuted my above statement in any way.

16th November 2021, 04:34 PM	#99
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,963	Originally Posted by Carlotta Pardon me. I thought someone said something about being told to act less black for jobs. And what the hell does less black mean anyway?
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16th November 2021, 04:35 PM	#100
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,963	Originally Posted by Warp12 Stacy, your comment has nothing to do with Youngkin's victory, or why some may find CRT to be controversial at election time. You have not refuted my above statement in any way. I think we have all guessed where this poster is coming from...
	__________________ Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein.

16th November 2021, 04:36 PM	#101
Warp12 Suspended Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 5,941	Originally Posted by dudalb And what the hell does less black mean anyway? It means about as much as "less white". But, some people can't seem to grasp that, it seems. Instead they buy books to learn how to be "less white", and corporations pay for training materials that push the same ideas. As I say, many people equate this to CRT, and that is where you get the push back at election time.
	Last edited by Warp12; 16th November 2021 at 04:39 PM.

17th November 2021, 08:36 AM	#102
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 32,202	Originally Posted by dudalb And what the hell does less black mean anyway? It means being treated poorly by racists.
	__________________ 1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it.