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Old 30th December 2018, 09:33 PM   #1
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Ukraine

I've seen some reports the Russian military is building up near the Ukraine border. The same reports suggest its a prelude to an invasion which has been encouraged by Trumps foreign policy.

How likely is this? Will Russia actually mount a full scale invasion of Ukraine?
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Old 30th December 2018, 10:03 PM   #2
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Old 30th December 2018, 10:08 PM   #3
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Putin just wants to culturally enrich the country. I don't know why you racists are so afraid of a little diversity.
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Old 31st December 2018, 02:51 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post

Is that an agreement then? That Russia is going to invade Ukraine?

Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
Putin just wants to culturally enrich the country. I don't know why you racists are so afraid of a little diversity.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It sounds sarcastic but im not sure what the sarcasm is aimed at
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Old 31st December 2018, 04:49 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by RolandRat View Post
Is that an agreement then? That Russia is going to invade Ukraine?

So you didn't read any of it. The link was meant to provide you with some context you please dissect yourself if you're truly interested in answers to your question.
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Old 31st December 2018, 05:09 PM   #6
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It sounds sarcastic but im not sure what the sarcasm is aimed at
Diversity is only good when it benefits the people preaching it.
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Old 31st December 2018, 05:21 PM   #7
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I don't think even the Tzar himself knows
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Old 31st December 2018, 07:24 PM   #8
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Old 31st December 2018, 09:39 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
So you didn't read any of it. The link was meant to provide you with some context you please dissect yourself if you're truly interested in answers to your question.

I did read it. It seems to insinuate that Ukraine and Russia are at each others throats. If I'm missing something, please educate me.
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Old 31st December 2018, 09:40 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
Diversity is only good when it benefits the people preaching it.
Um ok, how is this relevant?
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Old 31st December 2018, 10:16 PM   #11
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Russia considers the Ukraine a part of the Motherland, so an invasion can never be an aggression, only the motherly care for a child that has lost its way.
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Old 1st January 2019, 12:37 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Russia considers the Ukraine a part of the Motherland, so an invasion can never be an aggression, only the motherly care for a child that has lost its way.
Yes, the "no more wire hangers" school of motherhood.
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Old 5th January 2019, 06:50 AM   #13
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The war in donbass has caused 10k ukranian casualties. However, the US can do nothing about it.
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Old 5th January 2019, 10:57 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by mattobrien85 View Post
The war in donbass has caused 10k ukranian casualties. However, the US can do nothing about it.
...at least not as long as the White House is occupied by Putin's bitch.
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Originally Posted by timhau View Post
...at least not as long as the White House is occupied by Putin's bitch.
Or by somebody who who thinks war with Russia would be a very big problem in need of a very big justification.
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Old 7th January 2019, 04:49 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by mattobrien85 View Post
The war in donbass has caused 10k ukranian casualties. However, the US can do nothing about it.
Why would it? Is it the policeman of the world?
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Old 8th January 2019, 02:59 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Why would it? Is it the policeman of the world?
There are self-interest motives.
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Old 30th January 2019, 05:04 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Russia considers the Ukraine a part of the Motherland, so an invasion can never be an aggression, only the motherly care for a child that has lost its way.
And I am sure the same applies to the Baltic States, Finland, Poland, etc.......
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Or by somebody who who thinks war with Russia would be a very big problem in need of a very big justification.
Oh, there are things we could do not involving military action, to hurt Russia badly economically.
I also know that appeasing a bully never works very well either.
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Old 30th January 2019, 05:06 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Yes, the "no more wire hangers" school of motherhood.
Holy Mother Russia,is a Mother allright..just asks the Poles and the Finns.
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Old 18th February 2019, 03:13 AM   #21
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The trouble is Nazis are raising their ugly heads in Ukraine again. There is a bit about this in a Wikipedia about the second world war Russian general Vatutin, who was killed during the war by Ukrainian 'insurgents' fighting for Germany:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vatutin

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His influence on the Red Army strategic planning, operational, and tactical techniques continued even after his death. Following the post-Cold War decline in Germanocentric analyses of the Eastern Front, Vatutin has won recognition among Western military experts as one of World War II's most creative commanders.[citation needed]

In 2015, Vatutin's daughter announced that her father had been buried in Kiev by Khrushchev against her family's wishes, and that his surviving family (who live either in Russia or in the Czech Republic) will attempt to obtain permission to rebury him in Moscow. The primary reason was stated to be their dislike for the new Ukrainian government's association with Stepan Bandera, whose followers had killed Vatutin. Originally, a press release from the Just Russia party had falsely claimed that the initiative to move his body had come from the Kiev authorities.[7][8] The reburial didn't materialise and Vatutin remains buried in front of his statue near the Ukrainian parliament.[9]

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