Passing Peak Trump? - Page 3

Puppycow · 14th November 2015, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by steve s

What exactly would he bomb? They don't have air force bases or aircraft carriers. He'd have to carpet bomb entire towns to get rid of them.

Steve S

I think the latter is exactly what he means.

We could win the war, the question has always been how far are we prepared to go to do so, and how much collateral damage are we prepared to countenance in the process.

dudalb · 14th November 2015, 11:24 AM

What gets to me how many support Trump simply because he is "Anti Establishment".
To support somebody mainly because he is "Anti Establishment" regardless of his policies or what kind of guy he is (and ,yes, that is important in a president) is an act of supreme stupidity. Sort of burning down a house to get rid of mice.

Ladewig · 14th November 2015, 11:48 AM

Trump's campaign will not end with a bang, but with a whimper. He will just slide downward as another candidate takes the lead. Pundits will analyze the hell out of it so they can say "Here! Here is the thing that did him in" but it will merely be post hoc fallacy.

Of course I could be wrong about how it ends, but it will end.

thaiboxerken · 14th November 2015, 01:43 PM

Trump uses the Paris attacks as a pro-gun advertisement.

Doghouse Reilly · 14th November 2015, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Trump's campaign will not end with a bang, but with a whimper. He will just slide downward as another candidate takes the lead. Pundits will analyze the hell out of it so they can say "Here! Here is the thing that did him in" but it will merely be post hoc fallacy.

Of course I could be wrong about how it ends, but it will end.

Nah. His campaign for the nomination will end with his nomination. His campaign for the presidency will end with his election as POTUS. It's his time. The stars are aligned. Just an expression, lest someone interpret that as meaning that I believe in astrology.

Ladewig · 14th November 2015, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly

Nah. His campaign for the nomination will end with his nomination. His campaign for the presidency will end with his election as POTUS. It's his time. The stars are aligned. Just an expression, lest someone interpret that as meaning that I believe in astrology.

You sound serious.
Have you started thinking about avatars for me if you win the bet?

DavidJames · 14th November 2015, 05:55 PM

Trumps recent tirades are making me wonder if he's mentally stable.

Grizzly Bear · 14th November 2015, 08:04 PM

Mentally stable or not, I wouldn't trust him in the white house. POTUS is among the most demanding jobs and requires a multitude of decisions and is imaginably a huge load of stress both from the pressures of the job and the constant thick skin required to get through constant criticisms of policy or an expectation to do things right. Trump has usually failed at the point of keeping a thick skin and he's mainly pulling at populist rhetoric without the slightest registering of how reality would play out. But whereas I criticized Obama on this in 2008 because it was largely idealist policy he likely knew wouldn't get passed so easily, Trump just plain doesn't seem to know what he's doing... or rather I think it difficult to understand if he'd actually do it given his penchant to change positions on a dime.

Irrespective of what it is, his argument boils simply down to rally the populist, anti-establishment far-right. I don't mind being anti-establishment, but his populist rhetoric leaves much to be skeptical about and he has a foreign policy lean to match.

Doghouse Reilly · 14th November 2015, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

You sound serious.
Have you started thinking about avatars for me if you win the bet?

Yeah, I have done a bit of counting my chickens before they're hatched in that regard.

Jrrarglblarg · 15th November 2015, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly

Yeah, I have done a bit of counting my chickens before they're hatched in that regard.

I hope you pick Trump With A Topknot.

applecorped · 15th November 2015, 04:43 AM

10/27

Originally Posted by hgc

Slowly, slowly the raison d'être of this thread picks up steam.

11/14

Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly

And meanwhile, Trump is polling at 42%.

Ladewig · 15th November 2015, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jrrarglblarg

I hope you pick Trump With A Topknot.

At first I thought that that avatar would be embarrassing, but given that I view Trump as a clown, I think I would be happy with it.

But it is not that much of an issue for me, because I am going to win.

Doghouse Reilly · 15th November 2015, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

At first I thought that that avatar would be embarrassing, but given that I view Trump as a clown, I think I would be happy with it.

But it is not that much of an issue for me, because I am going to win.

Out of curiosity, who do you think has a good chance of winning the nomination? Rubio? Cruz? And why do you think that this person will surge past Trump?

dudalb · 15th November 2015, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear

Mentally stable or not, I wouldn't trust him in the white house. POTUS is among the most demanding jobs and requires a multitude of decisions and is imaginably a huge load of stress both from the pressures of the job and the constant thick skin required to get through constant criticisms of policy or an expectation to do things right. Trump has usually failed at the point of keeping a thick skin and he's mainly pulling at populist rhetoric without the slightest registering of how reality would play out. But whereas I criticized Obama on this in 2008 because it was largely idealist policy he likely knew wouldn't get passed so easily, Trump just plain doesn't seem to know what he's doing... or rather I think it difficult to understand if he'd actually do it given his penchant to change positions on a dime.

Irrespective of what it is, his argument boils simply down to rally the populist, anti-establishment far-right. I don't mind being anti-establishment, but his populist rhetoric leaves much to be skeptical about and he has a foreign policy lean to match.

There are some people who are so violently anti establishment that they will support ANYBODY who is Anti Establishement. Extremely dangerous ,in my opinion.

Skeptic Ginger · 15th November 2015, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by applecorped

10/27
11/14

Curious if you think the GOP public sees Trump as a good bet against the ISIS threat? Do many people think blowing up oil fields is a viable tactic?

Ladewig · 15th November 2015, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

At first I thought that that avatar would be embarrassing, but given that I view Trump as a clown, I think I would be happy with it.

But it is not that much of an issue for me, because I am going to win.

Probably Cruz (who I think can beat Clinton). As Carson and the others drop out, their points will end up with someone like Cruz. Also as we get closer to Iowa, more people will realize that when it comes to politics, Trump is all hat and no cattle.

Doghouse Reilly · 15th November 2015, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Curious if you think the GOP public sees Trump as a good bet against the ISIS threat? Do many people think blowing up oil fields is a viable tactic?

I know you weren't asking me, but yes, they view Trump favorably in this regard because of his outspoken resolve to keep Syrians out of the country. Especially after the Paris attacks, this will set him apart from all other candidates. Whether or not blowing up oil fields is a viable tactic is irrelevant to his support if the public has the impression that Trump will do the most to keep them safe at home. Cynical as it may sound, Trump is going to see a big jump in support as a result of the Paris attacks.

Doghouse Reilly · 15th November 2015, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Probably Cruz (who I think can beat Clinton). As Carson and the others drop out, their points will end up with someone like Cruz. Also as we get closer to Iowa, more people will realize that when it comes to politics, Trump is all hat and no cattle.

See, I don't understand why you're so sure that most of Carson's support won't go to Trump. I think it will. And that's assuming that he even drops out of the race. Have you considered the possibility that nobody drops out? That would mean that Trump wins, if things stayed as they are currently.

Jrrarglblarg · 15th November 2015, 10:54 PM

A lot of months to go, kids. Hang on to your Popsicles, we're headed toward the bumpy bit.

Ladewig · 15th November 2015, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly

See, I don't understand why you're so sure that most of Carson's support won't go to Trump. I think it will. And that's assuming that he even drops out of the race. Have you considered the possibility that nobody drops out? That would mean that Trump wins, if things stayed as they are currently.

And that same difference of opinion is why horse racing exists.

It is a long way until Super Tuesday (March 1). Almost anything could happen.

dudalb · 16th November 2015, 10:40 AM

What is scarists about our Trump worshipper here is that he seemingly approves fully of Trump's bigotry.

dudalb · 16th November 2015, 03:45 PM

Now Trump is talking about closing Mosques,and his new campaign advisor, a recycled Tea Party activists, called Islam Evil.
Maybe Trump has decided that Muslims are more politically lucrative to Hate then Hispanics.

marplots · 16th November 2015, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Now Trump is talking about closing Mosques,and his new campaign advisor, a recycled Tea Party activists, called Islam Evil.
Maybe Trump has decided that Muslims are more politically lucrative to Hate then Hispanics.

I predict he will suggest we close our border with Islam.

Myron Proudfoot · 16th November 2015, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by marplots

I predict he will suggest we close our border with Islam.

and he'll make the Islamians pay for it!

Trebuchet · 16th November 2015, 07:24 PM

Trump's ~~racism~~ otherism toward Mexicans, Chinese, and Muslims will play well to the R base. In the general, not as much, but still far too much.

BTW, and OT, did Ben Carson ever come up with the big reveal of why he KNOWS China has troops in Syria, or did Paris save his bacon?

dudalb · 17th November 2015, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by DavidJames

Trumps recent tirades are making me wonder if he's mentally stable.

His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache..

dudalb · 17th November 2015, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Trump's ~~racism~~ otherism toward Mexicans, Chinese, and Muslims will play well to the R base. In the general, not as much, but still far too much.

BTW, and OT, did Ben Carson ever come up with the big reveal of why he KNOWS China has troops in Syria, or did Paris save his bacon?

Toward a protion of the Republican Base. The Business Base of the GOP hates Trump,because they are businessmen,and know how disasterous economically Trump's hatred of the Chinese and Muslims would be.

Ladewig · 17th November 2015, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache..

It is wrong to compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler actually served in the military.

All kidding aside, I skipped around the speech and I Did not see anything Hitlerish (Hitleresque ?)at all. Can you be more specific as to why the speech reminded you of Hitler.

marplots · 17th November 2015, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache..

Not as good. I vote Castro instead.

dudalb · 17th November 2015, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by marplots

Not as good. I vote Castro instead.

Your're right. Hitler never would have had all the pauses and floundering around that that Trump did.

Trebuchet · 17th November 2015, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

It is wrong to compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler actually served in the military.

All kidding aside, I skipped around the speech and I Did not see anything Hitlerish (Hitleresque ?)at all. Can you be more specific as to why the speech reminded you of Hitler.

To me, it's the blaming of all the country's problems on "others" -- Mexicans, immigrants in general, China, etc. Hitler rode that horse right to the top of the heap.

Puppycow · 17th November 2015, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

It is wrong to compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler actually served in the military.

And Trump went to a military boarding school which is essentially the same thing.

Grizzly Bear · 17th November 2015, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache..

Hugo Chavez is a close match to his style if you replace American Imperialism with immigration as the core issue. Hitler's regime wiped out 6 million Jews in concentration camps and gas chambers. Comparing Trump to that extreme is therefore a stretch

TubbaBlubba · 18th November 2015, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear

Hugo Chavez is a close match to his style if you replace American Imperialism with immigration as the core issue. Hitler's regime wiped out 6 million Jews in concentration camps and gas chambers. Comparing Trump to that extreme is therefore a stretch

Actually, some 20% were just executed on the spot.

applecorped · 18th November 2015, 05:50 AM

Godwin for President!

catsmate · 18th November 2015, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

And Trump went to a military boarding school which is essentially the same thing.

Not really. I seem to recall a World War going on.

Originally Posted by applecorped

Godwin for President!

Ladewig · 18th November 2015, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

And Trump went to a military boarding school which is essentially the same thing.

Originally Posted by catsmate

Not really.

The answer was sarcasm based on a line in Trump's latest book.
His experience at military school led him to say that he "always felt like [he] was in the military." He also asserted that hehad "dealt with those people" in school.

jhunter1163 · 18th November 2015, 09:05 AM

To get back to the topic, I think the Trump wave has clearly crested. He is saying more and more ridiculous things because attention is like oxygen to his campaign, even if it's negative attention. I think he'll stay in until the convention, since he isn't really limited financially, and try to leverage his remaining support into a Cabinet position or something. Actually, I think that's the plan for a lot of these candidates. That's why you don't see many of them dropping out no matter how bad their poll numbers are. If someone is twenty delegates short of a majority, and you have twenty-five... surely no one believes that horses wouldn't be traded in such a situation.

varwoche · 18th November 2015, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

... I think he'll stay in until the convention, since he isn't really limited financially, and try to leverage his remaining support into a Cabinet position or something.

Maybe "or something" but not a cabinet position. His ego is much too HUGE to accept a subordinate position.

Doghouse Reilly · 18th November 2015, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

To get back to the topic, I think the Trump wave has clearly crested.

LOL. It never stops. How has the "Trump wave clearly crested"? The last 2 major polls have all shown him with major increases.

I swear, Trump could be being sworn into office as POTUS and some of you would still be saying that he's "clearly" finished.

14th November 2015, 08:25 AM	#81
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,089	Originally Posted by steve s What exactly would he bomb? They don't have air force bases or aircraft carriers. He'd have to carpet bomb entire towns to get rid of them. Steve S I think the latter is exactly what he means. We could win the war, the question has always been how far are we prepared to go to do so, and how much collateral damage are we prepared to countenance in the process.
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14th November 2015, 11:24 AM	#82
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	What gets to me how many support Trump simply because he is "Anti Establishment". To support somebody mainly because he is "Anti Establishment" regardless of his policies or what kind of guy he is (and ,yes, that is important in a president) is an act of supreme stupidity. Sort of burning down a house to get rid of mice.
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14th November 2015, 11:48 AM	#83
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,465	Trump's campaign will not end with a bang, but with a whimper. He will just slide downward as another candidate takes the lead. Pundits will analyze the hell out of it so they can say "Here! Here is the thing that did him in" but it will merely be post hoc fallacy. Of course I could be wrong about how it ends, but it will end.
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14th November 2015, 01:43 PM	#84
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 32,111	Trump uses the Paris attacks as a pro-gun advertisement.
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14th November 2015, 05:52 PM	#86
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,465	Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly Nah. His campaign for the nomination will end with his nomination. His campaign for the presidency will end with his election as POTUS. It's his time. The stars are aligned. Just an expression, lest someone interpret that as meaning that I believe in astrology. You sound serious. Have you started thinking about avatars for me if you win the bet?
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14th November 2015, 04:58 PM	#85
Doghouse Reilly Adrift on an uncharted sea Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,410	Originally Posted by Ladewig Trump's campaign will not end with a bang, but with a whimper. He will just slide downward as another candidate takes the lead. Pundits will analyze the hell out of it so they can say "Here! Here is the thing that did him in" but it will merely be post hoc fallacy. Of course I could be wrong about how it ends, but it will end. Nah. His campaign for the nomination will end with his nomination. His campaign for the presidency will end with his election as POTUS. It's his time. The stars are aligned. Just an expression, lest someone interpret that as meaning that I believe in astrology.

14th November 2015, 05:55 PM	#87
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14th November 2015, 08:04 PM	#88
Grizzly Bear このマスクによっ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,866	Mentally stable or not, I wouldn't trust him in the white house. POTUS is among the most demanding jobs and requires a multitude of decisions and is imaginably a huge load of stress both from the pressures of the job and the constant thick skin required to get through constant criticisms of policy or an expectation to do things right. Trump has usually failed at the point of keeping a thick skin and he's mainly pulling at populist rhetoric without the slightest registering of how reality would play out. But whereas I criticized Obama on this in 2008 because it was largely idealist policy he likely knew wouldn't get passed so easily, Trump just plain doesn't seem to know what he's doing... or rather I think it difficult to understand if he'd actually do it given his penchant to change positions on a dime. Irrespective of what it is, his argument boils simply down to rally the populist, anti-establishment far-right. I don't mind being anti-establishment, but his populist rhetoric leaves much to be skeptical about and he has a foreign policy lean to match.
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14th November 2015, 08:23 PM	#89
Doghouse Reilly Adrift on an uncharted sea Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,410	Originally Posted by Ladewig You sound serious. Have you started thinking about avatars for me if you win the bet? Yeah, I have done a bit of counting my chickens before they're hatched in that regard.

15th November 2015, 12:56 AM	#90
Jrrarglblarg Guest Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12,673	Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly Yeah, I have done a bit of counting my chickens before they're hatched in that regard. I hope you pick Trump With A Topknot.
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15th November 2015, 04:43 AM	#91
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	10/27 Originally Posted by hgc Slowly, slowly the raison d'être of this thread picks up steam. 11/14 Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly And meanwhile, Trump is polling at 42%.
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15th November 2015, 05:43 AM	#92
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,465	Originally Posted by Jrrarglblarg I hope you pick Trump With A Topknot. At first I thought that that avatar would be embarrassing, but given that I view Trump as a clown, I think I would be happy with it. But it is not that much of an issue for me, because I am going to win.
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15th November 2015, 07:44 PM	#93
Doghouse Reilly Adrift on an uncharted sea Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,410	Originally Posted by Ladewig At first I thought that that avatar would be embarrassing, but given that I view Trump as a clown, I think I would be happy with it. But it is not that much of an issue for me, because I am going to win. Out of curiosity, who do you think has a good chance of winning the nomination? Rubio? Cruz? And why do you think that this person will surge past Trump?

15th November 2015, 08:10 PM	#94
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear Mentally stable or not, I wouldn't trust him in the white house. POTUS is among the most demanding jobs and requires a multitude of decisions and is imaginably a huge load of stress both from the pressures of the job and the constant thick skin required to get through constant criticisms of policy or an expectation to do things right. Trump has usually failed at the point of keeping a thick skin and he's mainly pulling at populist rhetoric without the slightest registering of how reality would play out. But whereas I criticized Obama on this in 2008 because it was largely idealist policy he likely knew wouldn't get passed so easily, Trump just plain doesn't seem to know what he's doing... or rather I think it difficult to understand if he'd actually do it given his penchant to change positions on a dime. Irrespective of what it is, his argument boils simply down to rally the populist, anti-establishment far-right. I don't mind being anti-establishment, but his populist rhetoric leaves much to be skeptical about and he has a foreign policy lean to match. There are some people who are so violently anti establishment that they will support ANYBODY who is Anti Establishement. Extremely dangerous ,in my opinion.
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15th November 2015, 08:31 PM	#95
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,109	Originally Posted by applecorped 10/27 11/14 Curious if you think the GOP public sees Trump as a good bet against the ISIS threat? Do many people think blowing up oil fields is a viable tactic?

15th November 2015, 08:36 PM	#96
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,465	Originally Posted by Ladewig At first I thought that that avatar would be embarrassing, but given that I view Trump as a clown, I think I would be happy with it. But it is not that much of an issue for me, because I am going to win. Probably Cruz (who I think can beat Clinton). As Carson and the others drop out, their points will end up with someone like Cruz. Also as we get closer to Iowa, more people will realize that when it comes to politics, Trump is all hat and no cattle.
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15th November 2015, 09:06 PM	#97
Doghouse Reilly Adrift on an uncharted sea Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,410	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Curious if you think the GOP public sees Trump as a good bet against the ISIS threat? Do many people think blowing up oil fields is a viable tactic? I know you weren't asking me, but yes, they view Trump favorably in this regard because of his outspoken resolve to keep Syrians out of the country. Especially after the Paris attacks, this will set him apart from all other candidates. Whether or not blowing up oil fields is a viable tactic is irrelevant to his support if the public has the impression that Trump will do the most to keep them safe at home. Cynical as it may sound, Trump is going to see a big jump in support as a result of the Paris attacks.
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15th November 2015, 09:10 PM	#98
Doghouse Reilly Adrift on an uncharted sea Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,410	Originally Posted by Ladewig Probably Cruz (who I think can beat Clinton). As Carson and the others drop out, their points will end up with someone like Cruz. Also as we get closer to Iowa, more people will realize that when it comes to politics, Trump is all hat and no cattle. See, I don't understand why you're so sure that most of Carson's support won't go to Trump. I think it will. And that's assuming that he even drops out of the race. Have you considered the possibility that nobody drops out? That would mean that Trump wins, if things stayed as they are currently.

15th November 2015, 10:54 PM	#99
Jrrarglblarg Guest Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12,673	A lot of months to go, kids. Hang on to your Popsicles, we're headed toward the bumpy bit.
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15th November 2015, 11:21 PM	#100
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,465	Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly See, I don't understand why you're so sure that most of Carson's support won't go to Trump. I think it will. And that's assuming that he even drops out of the race. Have you considered the possibility that nobody drops out? That would mean that Trump wins, if things stayed as they are currently. And that same difference of opinion is why horse racing exists. It is a long way until Super Tuesday (March 1). Almost anything could happen.
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16th November 2015, 10:40 AM	#101
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	What is scarists about our Trump worshipper here is that he seemingly approves fully of Trump's bigotry.
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16th November 2015, 03:45 PM	#102
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	Now Trump is talking about closing Mosques,and his new campaign advisor, a recycled Tea Party activists, called Islam Evil. Maybe Trump has decided that Muslims are more politically lucrative to Hate then Hispanics.
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16th November 2015, 03:51 PM	#103
marplots Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 29,167	Originally Posted by dudalb Now Trump is talking about closing Mosques,and his new campaign advisor, a recycled Tea Party activists, called Islam Evil. Maybe Trump has decided that Muslims are more politically lucrative to Hate then Hispanics. I predict he will suggest we close our border with Islam.

16th November 2015, 03:57 PM	#104
Myron Proudfoot Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northern VA/DC Posts: 2,361	Originally Posted by marplots I predict he will suggest we close our border with Islam. and he'll make the Islamians pay for it!
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16th November 2015, 07:24 PM	#105
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 34,163	Trump's ~~racism~~ otherism toward Mexicans, Chinese, and Muslims will play well to the R base. In the general, not as much, but still far too much. BTW, and OT, did Ben Carson ever come up with the big reveal of why he KNOWS China has troops in Syria, or did Paris save his bacon?
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17th November 2015, 01:16 PM	#106
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	Originally Posted by DavidJames Trumps recent tirades are making me wonder if he's mentally stable. His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache..
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17th November 2015, 01:18 PM	#107
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Trump's ~~racism~~ otherism toward Mexicans, Chinese, and Muslims will play well to the R base. In the general, not as much, but still far too much. BTW, and OT, did Ben Carson ever come up with the big reveal of why he KNOWS China has troops in Syria, or did Paris save his bacon? Toward a protion of the Republican Base. The Business Base of the GOP hates Trump,because they are businessmen,and know how disasterous economically Trump's hatred of the Chinese and Muslims would be.
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17th November 2015, 02:25 PM	#108
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,465	Originally Posted by dudalb His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache.. It is wrong to compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler actually served in the military. All kidding aside, I skipped around the speech and I Did not see anything Hitlerish (Hitleresque ?)at all. Can you be more specific as to why the speech reminded you of Hitler.
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17th November 2015, 02:32 PM	#109
marplots Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 29,167	Originally Posted by dudalb His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache.. Not as good. I vote Castro instead.

17th November 2015, 03:16 PM	#110
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,476	Originally Posted by marplots Not as good. I vote Castro instead. Your're right. Hitler never would have had all the pauses and floundering around that that Trump did.
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17th November 2015, 04:15 PM	#111
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 34,163	Originally Posted by Ladewig It is wrong to compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler actually served in the military. All kidding aside, I skipped around the speech and I Did not see anything Hitlerish (Hitleresque ?)at all. Can you be more specific as to why the speech reminded you of Hitler. To me, it's the blaming of all the country's problems on "others" -- Mexicans, immigrants in general, China, etc. Hitler rode that horse right to the top of the heap.
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17th November 2015, 06:23 PM	#112
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,089	Originally Posted by Ladewig It is wrong to compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler actually served in the military. And Trump went to a military boarding school which is essentially the same thing.
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17th November 2015, 07:29 PM	#113
Grizzly Bear このマスクによっ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,866	Originally Posted by dudalb His 90 Minute rant in Iowa last week certainly reminded me of a certain guy in Germany in the 20 and 30's who wore a little mustache.. Hugo Chavez is a close match to his style if you replace American Imperialism with immigration as the core issue. Hitler's regime wiped out 6 million Jews in concentration camps and gas chambers. Comparing Trump to that extreme is therefore a stretch
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18th November 2015, 04:05 AM	#114
TubbaBlubba Knave of the Dudes Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,918	Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear Hugo Chavez is a close match to his style if you replace American Imperialism with immigration as the core issue. Hitler's regime wiped out 6 million Jews in concentration camps and gas chambers. Comparing Trump to that extreme is therefore a stretch Actually, some 20% were just executed on the spot.
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18th November 2015, 05:50 AM	#115
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Godwin for President!
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