White House Survivor - Page 63

Craig4 · 2nd November 2020, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I heard that The PDJT can't actually fire Dr. Fauci -- that has to come from another boss. Of course, Trump would never do it face-to-face himself anyway.

I'm sure Fauci is on the Senior Executive Schedule. They don't serve at the pleasure of the president but don't have all the rights of the General Schedule employees (GS 15 and below). When I was in government I never made it that far, nor did I aspire to so I never really looked into the differences.

Segnosaur · 2nd November 2020, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Does it count for the purposes of White House Survivor if there's no break in service? If Trump fires Fauci on Wednesday and Biden hires him for the transition team on Thursday, did he really get fired?

The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.)

dirtywick · 2nd November 2020, 06:50 PM

Well it’s not like they’re following his advice anyway.

I’m sure Biden could give him a call and ask him to stand back and stand by

alfaniner · 9th November 2020, 10:53 AM

Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins.

Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone.

SuburbanTurkey · 9th November 2020, 10:54 AM

As we are approaching the final days of the Trump administration, an opportunity presents itself for prognostication.

Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.

varwoche · 9th November 2020, 11:27 AM

Overcome with holiday spirit, Festivus begins early.

Norman Alexander · 9th November 2020, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

As we are approaching the final days of the Trump administration, an opportunity presents itself for prognostication.

Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.

I would not be the least bit surprised if he fired everyone. Date: 19-Jan.

d4m10n · 9th November 2020, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.

Please, oh Lord of Providential Coincidence, let it be Jared.

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alfaniner · 9th November 2020, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

I would not be the least bit surprised if he fired everyone. Date: 19-Jan.

He'll be sitting on his throne in the Oval Office, with no one else in the entire building, shouting to the walls -- "I'm the King of the World!!!"

Meadmaker · 9th November 2020, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins.

Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone.

Has he ordered the execution of Fegelein yet?

(Movie "Downfall" reference, but not part of the usually parodied rant sequence.)

dudalb · 9th November 2020, 02:56 PM

I am betting Fauci is next.
I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration.

Trebuchet · 9th November 2020, 04:16 PM

There seem to be indications that Esper was going to resign today. Trump couldn't tolerate that so preemptively fired him.

Rather than guess who will be the last fired, perhaps we should have a poll as to how many. I'm guessing about 100. After all, the only rational reason for the E.O. about senior civil servants is to allow him to fire them.

alfaniner · 9th November 2020, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

There seem to be indications that Esper was going to resign today. Trump couldn't tolerate that so preemptively fired him.

Rather than guess who will be the last fired, perhaps we should have a poll as to how many. I'm guessing about 100. After all, the only rational reason for the E.O. about senior civil servants is to allow him to fire them.

The Tweet is mightier than the pen.

Stacyhs · 9th November 2020, 05:23 PM

Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing on Trump's Lame Duck period.

Stacyhs · 9th November 2020, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

The Tweet is mightier than the pen.

Looks like Tweetie Bird has struck again.

Trebuchet · 9th November 2020, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing of Trump's Lame Duck period.

Aside from heads remaining attached, of course.

Meadmaker · 9th November 2020, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing of Trump's Lame Duck period.

What a guy. I wonder if this is the pension thing. I don't remember who it was, maybe Comey? Rosenberg? someone, that he fired deliberately a couple of days before he would have qualified to receive a pension benefit of some sort. Trump fired him just so he could take that away.

What a putz.

Stacyhs · 9th November 2020, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Aside from heads remaining attached, of course.

Mere details, my boy, mere details.

Jim_MDP · 9th November 2020, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I am betting Fauci is next.
I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration.

I expect that phone call, and ones to any others worth retaining, happened late last week.

surrogate · 9th November 2020, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

What a guy. I wonder if this is the pension thing. I don't remember who it was, maybe Comey? Rosenberg? someone, that he fired deliberately a couple of days before he would have qualified to receive a pension benefit of some sort. Trump fired him just so he could take that away.

What a putz.

I believe it was Andrew McCabe

The Great Zaganza · 9th November 2020, 11:17 PM

Not saying that America's enemies should attack between now and Jan 20, but they probably won't get a better opportunity.

Norman Alexander · 9th November 2020, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I am betting Fauci is next.
I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration.

Wrong!

Thirty seconds.

Craig4 · 10th November 2020, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.)

Trump has to have HHS fire Fauci for cause and he has options for redress. The president can't simply order him to be fired.

Trebuchet · 10th November 2020, 10:20 AM

Overnight:
DOJ's top voter fraud official resigns in protest of Barr's order.
Pentagon's top policy official resigns as well.

The Great Zaganza · 10th November 2020, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Overnight:
DOJ's top voter fraud official resigns in protest of Barr's order.
Pentagon's top policy official resigns as well.

... and both send their CV to Biden on the very same day I imagine.

alfaniner · 10th November 2020, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

... and both send their CV to Biden on the very same day I imagine.

Just for clarity's sake, here we call that a "resumé".

Babbylonian · 10th November 2020, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

... and both send their CV to Biden on the very same day I imagine.

The DOJ person at least isn't leaving the DOJ, just that position.

CORed · 11th November 2020, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins.

Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone.

This one does cause me some concern. Is Trump going to try a military coup if his claims of fraud fail to keep him in power? I suspect he's too much of a coward to go that far, as that is something likely to end with him dead or in prison if it fails, but it doesn't seem to be beyond the realm of possibility.

Segnosaur · 11th November 2020, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Quote:

The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.)

Trump has to have HHS fire Fauci for cause and he has options for redress. The president can't simply order him to be fired.

Trump can either tell the head of HHS to fire him, or fire the head of HHS and appoint someone (even in an acting capacity) who will do it for him.

Meadmaker · 11th November 2020, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Trump can either tell the head of HHS to fire him, or fire the head of HHS and appoint someone (even in an acting capacity) who will do it for him.

Can we have a new Saturday Night Massacre? Keep firing people you can fire until one of them fires the guy you want to fire in the first place?

And then nominate that last guy to the Supreme Court?

I remember the original Saturday Night Massacre, but I was too young to understand it, really. Maybe Trump can do a few of those over the next few months.

I keep holding out hope that he will do something so outrageously over the top and illegal that there will have to be an emergency impeachment to get rid of him before January 20, or a 25th amendment action. I know it's not likely, but it would be fun.

Segnosaur · 11th November 2020, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

I keep holding out hope that he will do something so outrageously over the top and illegal that there will have to be an emergency impeachment to get rid of him before January 20, or a 25th amendment action. I know it's not likely, but it would be fun.

The problem with that is that it would draw attention to republicans for enabling Trump for the past 4 years, and they would probably want to avoid that sort of publicity.

"Even though we voted against Trump's impeachment, voted for his various nominations, and didn't really challenge him when he engaged in racist actions, we now think Trump is a threat to the country".
"Why didn't you try to stop him before?"
"Because... Obama wore a tan suit! Buttery maies! Bengazi!"

Meadmaker · 11th November 2020, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

The problem with that is that it would draw attention to republicans for enabling Trump for the past 4 years, and they would probably want to avoid that sort of publicity.

There might even be other problems with that scenario.......but that doesn't mean I can't dream.

It occurs to me that about this time four years ago I predicted that Trump would be the first president impeached and convicted. i didn't think he could stay within the law for four years. I only have about 70 days left to be right.

(And....some would say he didn't stay within the law for four years, but that's for a different thread.)

CORed · 11th November 2020, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing on Trump's Lame Duck period.

Well, so far Trump hasn't used a guillotine. I wouldn't put it past him, though.

Delphic Oracle · 12th November 2020, 07:29 AM

Reversing the trend, Rick Bright will join the Biden COVID-19 advisory board after Trump's White House retaliated against him for a whistleblower complaint.

Segnosaur · 12th November 2020, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by CORed

Well, so far Trump hasn't used a guillotine. I wouldn't put it past him, though.

That's ridiculous.

How would he manage to pull the lever that drops the blade with such small hands?

CORed · 12th November 2020, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

That's ridiculous.

How would he manage to pull the lever that drops the blade with such small hands?

He has people to do that for him. You don't really think a person of Trump's status would pull the lever himself, do you?

quadraginta · 12th November 2020, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

He has people to do that for him. You don't really think a person of Trump's status would pull the lever himself, do you?

He'd claim he did it himself, though.

Segnosaur · 12th November 2020, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by quadraginta

Quote:

He has people to do that for him. You don't really think a person of Trump's status would pull the lever himself, do you?

He'd claim he did it himself, though.

Or claim that wanted to, but couldn't because of bone spurs in his arms.

Then afterword he would call the person who did pull the lever a "loser".

Armitage72 · 12th November 2020, 02:18 PM

Two senior DHS officials have been forced to resign.

The assistant director for cybersecurity and the assistant secretary for international affairs

bruto · 15th November 2020, 09:28 AM

I've been thinking more about this in the waning days of Trump's reign, and what continues to amaze me (though it doesn't really surprise me) is the death star mentality we keep seeing. What could possibly possess a person at this stage to join Trump's toppling team?

You know, in the Star Wars universe, when an Imperial henchman fails (as they always must) the Emperor musters the force and kills him, and as the body lies on the floor, another henchman steps up, eager to try his hand. A retelling of the old fairy tale in which the hapless stumbler heads off to answer the oracle or fight the ogre. Is he spellbound, or just so devoid of hope that a flamboyant downfall seems a viable future?

2nd November 2020, 12:47 PM	#2481
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 25,322	Originally Posted by alfaniner I heard that The PDJT can't actually fire Dr. Fauci -- that has to come from another boss. Of course, Trump would never do it face-to-face himself anyway. I'm sure Fauci is on the Senior Executive Schedule. They don't serve at the pleasure of the president but don't have all the rights of the General Schedule employees (GS 15 and below). When I was in government I never made it that far, nor did I aspire to so I never really looked into the differences.
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2nd November 2020, 05:33 PM	#2482
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 18,761	Originally Posted by Craig4 Does it count for the purposes of White House Survivor if there's no break in service? If Trump fires Fauci on Wednesday and Biden hires him for the transition team on Thursday, did he really get fired? The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.)
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2nd November 2020, 06:50 PM	#2483
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,237	Well it’s not like they’re following his advice anyway. I’m sure Biden could give him a call and ask him to stand back and stand by
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9th November 2020, 10:53 AM	#2484
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 26,731	Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins. Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone.
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9th November 2020, 10:54 AM	#2485
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	As we are approaching the final days of the Trump administration, an opportunity presents itself for prognostication. Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.
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9th November 2020, 11:27 AM	#2486
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9th November 2020, 11:58 AM	#2487
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 11,792	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey As we are approaching the final days of the Trump administration, an opportunity presents itself for prognostication. Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date. I would not be the least bit surprised if he fired everyone. Date: 19-Jan.
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9th November 2020, 12:25 PM	#2488
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 8,849	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date. Please, oh Lord of Providential Coincidence, let it be Jared. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
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9th November 2020, 01:28 PM	#2489
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 26,731	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander I would not be the least bit surprised if he fired everyone. Date: 19-Jan. He'll be sitting on his throne in the Oval Office, with no one else in the entire building, shouting to the walls -- "I'm the King of the World!!!"
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9th November 2020, 02:16 PM	#2490
Meadmaker Guest Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 29,033	Originally Posted by alfaniner Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins. Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone. Has he ordered the execution of Fegelein yet? (Movie "Downfall" reference, but not part of the usually parodied rant sequence.)
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9th November 2020, 02:56 PM	#2491
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,557	I am betting Fauci is next. I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration.
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9th November 2020, 04:16 PM	#2492
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 34,174	There seem to be indications that Esper was going to resign today. Trump couldn't tolerate that so preemptively fired him. Rather than guess who will be the last fired, perhaps we should have a poll as to how many. I'm guessing about 100. After all, the only rational reason for the E.O. about senior civil servants is to allow him to fire them.
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9th November 2020, 04:40 PM	#2493
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 26,731	Originally Posted by Trebuchet There seem to be indications that Esper was going to resign today. Trump couldn't tolerate that so preemptively fired him. Rather than guess who will be the last fired, perhaps we should have a poll as to how many. I'm guessing about 100. After all, the only rational reason for the E.O. about senior civil servants is to allow him to fire them. The Tweet is mightier than the pen.
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9th November 2020, 05:23 PM	#2494
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,259	Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing on Trump's Lame Duck period.
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9th November 2020, 05:24 PM	#2495
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,259	Originally Posted by alfaniner The Tweet is mightier than the pen. Looks like Tweetie Bird has struck again.

9th November 2020, 05:27 PM	#2496
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 34,174	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing of Trump's Lame Duck period. Aside from heads remaining attached, of course.
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9th November 2020, 05:32 PM	#2497
Meadmaker Guest Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 29,033	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing of Trump's Lame Duck period. What a guy. I wonder if this is the pension thing. I don't remember who it was, maybe Comey? Rosenberg? someone, that he fired deliberately a couple of days before he would have qualified to receive a pension benefit of some sort. Trump fired him just so he could take that away. What a putz.
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9th November 2020, 05:32 PM	#2498
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,259	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Aside from heads remaining attached, of course. Mere details, my boy, mere details.

9th November 2020, 10:45 PM	#2499
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 8,980	Originally Posted by dudalb I am betting Fauci is next. I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration. I expect that phone call, and ones to any others worth retaining, happened late last week.
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9th November 2020, 11:16 PM	#2500
surrogate Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere within the Orion Arm (aka NJ, USA) Posts: 491	Originally Posted by Meadmaker What a guy. I wonder if this is the pension thing. I don't remember who it was, maybe Comey? Rosenberg? someone, that he fired deliberately a couple of days before he would have qualified to receive a pension benefit of some sort. Trump fired him just so he could take that away. What a putz. I believe it was Andrew McCabe

9th November 2020, 11:17 PM	#2501
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9th November 2020, 11:18 PM	#2502
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 11,792	Originally Posted by dudalb I am betting Fauci is next. I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration. Wrong! Thirty seconds.
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10th November 2020, 03:38 AM	#2503
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 25,322	Originally Posted by Segnosaur The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.) Trump has to have HHS fire Fauci for cause and he has options for redress. The president can't simply order him to be fired.
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10th November 2020, 10:20 AM	#2504
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 34,174	Overnight: DOJ's top voter fraud official resigns in protest of Barr's order. Pentagon's top policy official resigns as well.
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10th November 2020, 10:35 AM	#2505
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 18,078	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Overnight: DOJ's top voter fraud official resigns in protest of Barr's order. Pentagon's top policy official resigns as well. ... and both send their CV to Biden on the very same day I imagine.
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10th November 2020, 11:26 AM	#2506
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 26,731	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza ... and both send their CV to Biden on the very same day I imagine. Just for clarity's sake, here we call that a "resumé".
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10th November 2020, 11:52 AM	#2507
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,908	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza ... and both send their CV to Biden on the very same day I imagine. The DOJ person at least isn't leaving the DOJ, just that position.

11th November 2020, 08:34 AM	#2508
CORed Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 10,479	Originally Posted by alfaniner Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins. Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone. This one does cause me some concern. Is Trump going to try a military coup if his claims of fraud fail to keep him in power? I suspect he's too much of a coward to go that far, as that is something likely to end with him dead or in prison if it fails, but it doesn't seem to be beyond the realm of possibility.

11th November 2020, 08:42 AM	#2509
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 18,761	Originally Posted by Craig4 Quote: The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.) Trump has to have HHS fire Fauci for cause and he has options for redress. The president can't simply order him to be fired. Trump can either tell the head of HHS to fire him, or fire the head of HHS and appoint someone (even in an acting capacity) who will do it for him.
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11th November 2020, 08:51 AM	#2510
Meadmaker Guest Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 29,033	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Trump can either tell the head of HHS to fire him, or fire the head of HHS and appoint someone (even in an acting capacity) who will do it for him. Can we have a new Saturday Night Massacre? Keep firing people you can fire until one of them fires the guy you want to fire in the first place? And then nominate that last guy to the Supreme Court? I remember the original Saturday Night Massacre, but I was too young to understand it, really. Maybe Trump can do a few of those over the next few months. I keep holding out hope that he will do something so outrageously over the top and illegal that there will have to be an emergency impeachment to get rid of him before January 20, or a 25th amendment action. I know it's not likely, but it would be fun.
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11th November 2020, 09:25 AM	#2511
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 18,761	Originally Posted by Meadmaker I keep holding out hope that he will do something so outrageously over the top and illegal that there will have to be an emergency impeachment to get rid of him before January 20, or a 25th amendment action. I know it's not likely, but it would be fun. The problem with that is that it would draw attention to republicans for enabling Trump for the past 4 years, and they would probably want to avoid that sort of publicity. "Even though we voted against Trump's impeachment, voted for his various nominations, and didn't really challenge him when he engaged in racist actions, we now think Trump is a threat to the country". "Why didn't you try to stop him before?" "Because... Obama wore a tan suit! Buttery maies! Bengazi!"
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11th November 2020, 10:51 AM	#2512
Meadmaker Guest Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 29,033	Originally Posted by Segnosaur The problem with that is that it would draw attention to republicans for enabling Trump for the past 4 years, and they would probably want to avoid that sort of publicity. There might even be other problems with that scenario.......but that doesn't mean I can't dream. It occurs to me that about this time four years ago I predicted that Trump would be the first president impeached and convicted. i didn't think he could stay within the law for four years. I only have about 70 days left to be right. (And....some would say he didn't stay within the law for four years, but that's for a different thread.)
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11th November 2020, 08:42 PM	#2513
CORed Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 10,479	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing on Trump's Lame Duck period. Well, so far Trump hasn't used a guillotine. I wouldn't put it past him, though.

12th November 2020, 07:29 AM	#2514
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 6,243	Reversing the trend, Rick Bright will join the Biden COVID-19 advisory board after Trump's White House retaliated against him for a whistleblower complaint.

12th November 2020, 07:31 AM	#2515
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 18,761	Originally Posted by CORed Well, so far Trump hasn't used a guillotine. I wouldn't put it past him, though. That's ridiculous. How would he manage to pull the lever that drops the blade with such small hands?
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