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8th March 2015, 11:38 AM | #241 |
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The NAWAC, delivering "outreach activities to schools " since 2011, because those poor kids in southeastern Oklahoma aren't dumb enough yet. It's good to know that if the elected officials of that state ever start falling behind on their anti-science nonsense that there are non-profits like the NAWAC to take up the slack.
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8th March 2015, 12:04 PM | #242 |
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8th March 2015, 01:03 PM | #243 |
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Parcher is correct, this should be a study looking for the trick. Not looking for an ape. They have disregarded repeated offers to help with this. Brown has even stated that it is not a hoax, and that he is either lying or telling the truth. He clearly does not want to blow this.
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8th March 2015, 01:14 PM | #244 |
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I see now, they are filed under Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy
http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/TX/Tex...ncy-Nawac.html |
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I'm a bit puzzled as to why the National Aviation Weather Advisory Committee would be interested in this?
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8th March 2015, 03:08 PM | #246 |
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There's some exciting gunplay.
The Ouachita Project 128 © 2015 North American Wood Ape Conservancy began mo ving through the cabin. ( Adapted from Operation Tenacity Papa team after - action report from September 3, 2014, unpublished.) Visual Contacts Over the course of four years — being conservative in what constitutes a true visual encounter — On July 3, 2011, at 19:15, upon hearing a rock loudly strike one of the cabins, Daryl Colyer, Alex Diaz, and Travis Lawrence moved quickly to investigate while Alton Higgins remained at the base cabin. Colyer took a s emi - automatic 12 - gauge. Colyer and Diaz crept slowly and stealthily westward along the trail toward the loud bang, with Diaz moving behind Colyer at a distance of perhaps 25 yards,” while Lawrence moved along the creek. The following is adapted from their after - action report: Colyer crept quietly, slowly, and methodically, walking ten to fifteen yards to listen, and then proceeding further west, where he believed the sound had originated. Colyer kept hearing what sounded like movement in the woods further to the west, so he continued westward after observing Diaz behind him slowly coming up the trail. As Colyer rounded the corner, he observed a large upright brown hair - covered figure walking smoothly in the woods. Colyer clearly saw the animal from the kn ees up and instantly identified it as a brown wood ape with a pointed head, walking south and angled slightly away from him. It was apparently unaware of Colyer, and was walking across an opening of vegetation perhaps six to eight feet wide; it was a narro w window with thick hedges of vegetation on both sides. Colyer noted that the ape was hairy all over and that there was long hair on the head. Colyer instinctively targeted the ape with his shotgun from ninety feet away after observing it for approximate ly two to three seconds. He fired his shotgun until the magazine was empty (nine rounds : two 000 buckshot rounds and seven rifled slugs ). Colyer saw no movement after that. The animal had disappeared because it had fallen, Colyer thought, or because it had fled behind a wall of thick vegetation further to the south toward the creek ETA: odd formatting an artifact of the c&p. |
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8th March 2015, 03:46 PM | #248 |
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8th March 2015, 03:59 PM | #249 |
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Here's a pretty good account of what's known as the "Echo Incident"
I guess if someone could find the property there would be police report in that county http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/10/2...ts-to-shooting |
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To be fair to the NAWAC and bigfooters in general, it's not a surprise that a hunter hasn't brought forth a specimen yet. The general consensus is that Bigfoot doesn't exist, so if someone's up in a tree stand and they happen to get a glimpse of one, they will probably assume it's just some nut in a suit or that they are seeing things. The truth is, not many people would actually take a shot at one if given the chance. When someone's out in the wilderness and they see one for the first time, shooting it for the advancement of science is going to be the last thing on their mind.
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No, but it is a surprise that -- assuming Bigfoot exists -- no one has every found a corpse, hair, turd, tooth, bone, skull, skin, blood, fossil (in any form), etc. etc. Also no unmistakable photo, video, audio record, nada. Yet NAWAC would have you believe Bigfeet are so common down in their neck of the woods that having one throw rocks at you is practically an everyday occurrence, and so easily seen that you can actually distinguish and name individual specimen.
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The Valley of the Wood Apes
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Yeah, if you see a Bigfoot leap 40 feet and kill a pig with a punch and then tuck it under its arm you are good-to-go for shooting it. When a 9 foot tall hairy ape does inhuman things in front of you you can be confident that you aren't about to shoot a person.
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By "hunter" I assume you mean intellectually challenged nutjob who likes to brag about his guns whilst dressing in cammo gear, trying to avoid tripping over his belly and bragging about 'expeditions' covering an area no greater than the size of my bathroom. I'm going to award myself two internets because I've only just realised that, whilst the term "BLAARGING" is sheer brilliance (my favourite is HindenBlarg), this silly phenomenon is one big Scooby Doo episode. For my fellow oldies, think about the chase scenes in Scooby Doo. |
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Just looking at their report again. Looks like they did have a GoPro camera.
"Helmer had been wearing a GoPro video camera at the time; however, the 8GB disk had filled prior to Helmer’s visual and the visual encounter was not recorded on video. Helmer recalled that the figure he had seen —given the name “Blackie” by Helmer — distinctively had very broad shoulders with a “V” taper toward its waist" One of many sightings, yet they can't get a picture of it. What a load of bull. |
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They couldn't hit a giant monkey from 30 yards away with a shotgun? Not even with one of the ten 36 caliber 000 buck pellets to generate a little blood loss?
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8th March 2015, 05:17 PM | #264 |
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"Colyer crept quietly, slowly, and methodically, "
Yep, this is just how we field biologists describe things in our publications. ETA: No it isn't. |
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8th March 2015, 05:26 PM | #266 |
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Bigfoot is everywhere, yet nowhere. LTC8K6 (Bigfoot) evidence doesn't look better on deeper analysis, it looks worse. David Daegling The Bigfoot hypothesis is tested daily. |
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"Bigfoot does not leave hair samples for us unless he is in our dimension to begin with, obviously. Once the hair is separated from the electrical field associated with the Bigfoot's free quanta energy loops, the hair becomes independant and remains in it's most stable dimension, which presumably is our dimension."(Historian) |
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I'm British, (sorry), so I don't really get the laughable gun culture/cammo gear/bunkering down against the evil gubbamunt stuff.
I only have one tin of baked beans in my fridge at any one time. I'm not legally allowed to own firearms, not that I would want to. Question: are the figbooters the kind of folks who say"amendment" regularly? /no offence intended to normal folks. Enquiring minds etc. |
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Yes, but for every hyper-Christian "packing large" in bigfootery, there's a New Ager into crystals and a Native American who's been convinced that bigfoot comes from their ancient traditions.
The ignorant, overweight blowhard obsessed with guns is a stereotype Americans have come about honestly, but 'footers are a bit more diverse than just those types. |
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I don't want to waste my time. Here's the evidence I would be willing to consider: 1) An actual living or dead specimen. 2) High quality video evidence. I will say this though: If these creatures are so good at hiding from humans, it seems highly unlikely that they would throw rocks at human dwellings or bang on the outside of them or on metal or wood or otherwise make a big racket to attract attention. If you want to avoid humans and hide from them, you don't make lots of noise on purpose. And you stay as far away from them as possible. I'm not going to waste my time reading the enormous report because frankly it doesn't pass the sniff test. That doesn't make me a "denialist" or "cynical" or not "open-minded", it just makes me realistic. |
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So, this is Bigfoot-Plus, is it? Just like Atheism-Plus, but without the pretense of rationalism. Social Justice for Bigfoot...? Free Bigfoot Blogs...?
I really don't know what to think about all this until I hear what Rebecca has to say... Or at the very least Thunderbigf00t... |
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I'm not familiar with this odd woman but.... I'm feeling brave.
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Skimming through the report it is clear that they are NOT good at hiding from humans. They have many sightings of them. They just can't seem to take a picture or video when they do have the sightings.
It all seems just made up. No real researchers could be this incompetent. |
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And please don't forget that Brian Brown owns a marketing company, so he can obviously spin a yarn.
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Yup. Doesn't pass the sniff test. From her blog post:
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ETA: Also, why is the location of "Area X" a secret? Shouldn't that be a big red flag for someone who is supposed to be a skeptic? |
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A. Bill Munns has commented on the DN article.
B. The investigation that is going on at Area X, must literally look like a Three Stooges feature. I mean, you have dozens of sightings, subjects in a scope, a dude blasting a full magazine of 12 gauge at one of the beasts, a cabin getting rained on by rocks, and no one can get picture one of these creatures. It really must be hilarious. C. EYDATI- elusive, yet draws attention to itself. |
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I just posted at Ms Hill's website. Mystified as to why she thinks that this is at all interesting..despite that I tried to make a suggestion. From now on, NAWAC members should carry gloves and then bag the rocks that are thrown at them as the rocks could contribute DNA. At this point, it takes very few skin cells to get a DNA sample , and there could be sweat or oils there too to contribute a sample or even a finger prints. Also I doubt that "wood apes" wash their hands after urinating/ defecating and before they chuck the rocks, so those sources could also contribute DNA that could be present on the sample.
And though primates may throw rocks and other items , they frequently throw something far more unpleasant; the fact that no one has had a handful of steaming feces thrown at them is very odd since that is far more in keeping with primate behavior than rocks. |
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