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Old 8th April 2020, 11:05 AM   #3001
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He's clearly focusing on the important stuff.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:07 AM   #3002
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

FLATTENING OF THE CURVE!

Bernie Sanders is OUT! Thank you to Elizabeth Warren. If not for her, Bernie would have won almost every state on Super Tuesday! This ended just like the Democrats & the DNC wanted, same as the Crooked Hillary fiasco. The Bernie people should come to the Republican Party, TRADE!

Wow, Bernie is unwilling to give up his delegates, and wants more of them! What’s that all about?

Can’t see AOC plus 3 supporting Sleepy Joe!
As with so many other things Trump does, it saddens me that tweets like this are encouraged by his followers. Pure trolling. Nothing of value. And idiots love this stuff.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:13 AM   #3003
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Trump Tweets

Extraordinary times require even closer cooperation between friends. Thank you India and the Indian people for the decision on HCQ. Will not be forgotten! Thank you Prime Minister
@NarendraModi for your strong leadership in helping not just India, but humanity, in this fight!
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:14 AM   #3004
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
As with so many other things Trump does, it saddens me that tweets like this are encouraged by his followers. Pure trolling. Nothing of value. And idiots love this stuff.
His tweets are a perfect example of how people can draw completely different conclusions from the same thing. While his followers think his tweets are great, I see them as revealing a truly sick and disgusting person. If I knew nothing else about him except his tweets, I would still conclude he's a POS.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:27 AM   #3005
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
The court that decided in-person voting is fine reached that decision after a virtual hearing.

Yup.


Wow.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:28 AM   #3006
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

FLATTENING OF THE CURVE!

Bernie Sanders is OUT! Thank you to Elizabeth Warren. If not for her, Bernie would have won almost every state on Super Tuesday! This ended just like the Democrats & the DNC wanted, same as the Crooked Hillary fiasco. The Bernie people should come to the Republican Party, TRADE!

Wow, Bernie is unwilling to give up his delegates, and wants more of them! What’s that all about?

Can’t see AOC plus 3 supporting Sleepy Joe!
To those "Bernie people"-

If you ever want to see (for example) universal health care coverage (or at least within your lifetimes)- no, you really shouldn't. Will you get it under Biden? No, most likely not; but you might at least get a reasonable approach to it. With the Republicans, especially under Trump, what you will get is at least two (possibly more) Supreme Court justices who will, when you do finally get someone like Bernie down the road who tries to implement some sort of UHC, join the Kavanaugh-led majority to throw it out; those guys are there for life, and Trump will certainly pick judges who will be young enough that that will mean your lives as well.

So, there you go, it's your choice. You can throw a tantrum and piss away your own ideals, or you can grow up a little and realize that you can't always get what you want right when you want it. I mean, surely you're not under any illusion that Trump will deliver on Bernie's promises, are you? The man won't even deliver on his own.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:30 AM   #3007
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post


He couldn’t have voted in person, he’s only in Florida like once a week.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:39 AM   #3008
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To those "Bernie people"-

If you ever want to see (for example) universal health care coverage (or at least within your lifetimes)- no, you really shouldn't. Will you get it under Biden? No, most likely not; but you might at least get a reasonable approach to it. With the Republicans, especially under Trump, what you will get is at least two (possibly more) Supreme Court justices who will, when you do finally get someone like Bernie down the road who tries to implement some sort of UHC, join the Kavanaugh-led majority to throw it out; those guys are there for life, and Trump will certainly pick judges who will be young enough that that will mean your lives as well.

So, there you go, it's your choice. You can throw a tantrum and piss away your own ideals, or you can grow up a little and realize that you can't always get what you want right when you want it. I mean, surely you're not under any illusion that Trump will deliver on Bernie's promises, are you? The man won't even deliver on his own.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:39 AM   #3009
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

...
Can’t see AOC plus 3 supporting Sleepy Joe!
They should just go back to the ******** countries they come from!
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:40 AM   #3010
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
He couldn’t have voted in person, he’s only in Florida like once a week.
Are you mad? Voting would take time away from his golf game!
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:50 AM   #3011
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Aw, only five? (j/k)

Seriously, I'm not sure I understand why it's so hard to get the simple, central point that the re-election of Trump now isn't just for now- the consequences of his continuing in office will continue long after he is out. He's the anti-Bernie- petulance at not getting the real one won't get you anywhere but further than ever from what both you and Bernie stand for.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:53 AM   #3012
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To those "Bernie people"-

If you ever want to see (for example) universal health care coverage (or at least within your lifetimes)- no, you really shouldn't. Will you get it under Biden? No, most likely not; but you might at least get a reasonable approach to it. With the Republicans, especially under Trump, what you will get is at least two (possibly more) Supreme Court justices who will, when you do finally get someone like Bernie down the road who tries to implement some sort of UHC, join the Kavanaugh-led majority to throw it out; those guys are there for life, and Trump will certainly pick judges who will be young enough that that will mean your lives as well.

So, there you go, it's your choice. You can throw a tantrum and piss away your own ideals, or you can grow up a little and realize that you can't always get what you want right when you want it. I mean, surely you're not under any illusion that Trump will deliver on Bernie's promises, are you? The man won't even deliver on his own.
If enough of us say this, hopefully they'll listen.
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Old 8th April 2020, 11:54 AM   #3013
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Originally Posted by turingtest View Post
Aw, only five? (j/k)

Seriously, I'm not sure I understand why it's so hard to get the simple, central point that the re-election of Trump now isn't just for now- the consequences of his continuing in office will continue long after he is out. He's the anti-Bernie- petulance at not getting the real one won't get you anywhere but further than ever from what both you and Bernie stand for.
If Bernie supporters do not turn out for Biden in this extremely crucial election then they will prove themselves to be as petty and lacking in long term thinking as Trump.
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Old 8th April 2020, 12:08 PM   #3014
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He couldn’t have voted in person, he’s only in Florida like once a week.
I saw someone track it down. They noted that his ballot was sent to his address in Florida on something like March 9, and was returned on March 14. He was not in Florida in any of that time.

Now granted, he is the President and could certainly have a courier bring his ballot to the White House and back to Florida in a day. But the question is, did he? Some reporter could try to track that down.

I would put up good money to bet that he never saw his ballot.
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Old 8th April 2020, 12:10 PM   #3015
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If enough of us say this, hopefully they'll listen.
To turn the ship around, you first need to turn to the side and then you turn back the other direction.
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Old 8th April 2020, 12:25 PM   #3016
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I saw someone track it down. They noted that his ballot was sent to his address in Florida on something like March 9, and was returned on March 14. He was not in Florida in any of that time.

Now granted, he is the President and could certainly have a courier bring his ballot to the White House and back to Florida in a day. But the question is, did he? Some reporter could try to track that down.

I would put up good money to bet that he never saw his ballot.

I don't think the ballot would have to be mailed in Florida. That's the whole point of an absentee ballot. I suspect he gets regular deliveries of business documents from Maralago. He might well have received it at the White House and signed it himself. The real issue is that he's claiming voting by mail is cheating, except when he does it.

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I don't think the ballot would have to be mailed in Florida. That's the whole point of an absentee ballot. I suspect he gets regular deliveries of business documents from Maralago. He might well have received it at the White House and signed it himself. The real issue is that's he claiming voting by mail is cheating, except when he does it.
I still don't even think he did it.
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Old 8th April 2020, 12:49 PM   #3018
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They should just go back to the ******** countries they come from!


Well, I've got good news for you, but also some bad news.
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Old 8th April 2020, 12:54 PM   #3019
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I don't think the ballot would have to be mailed in Florida. That's the whole point of an absentee ballot. I suspect he gets regular deliveries of business documents from Maralago. He might well have received it at the White House and signed it himself. The real issue is that he's claiming voting by mail is cheating, except when he does it.
I wonder if he signed in Sharpie...
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Old 8th April 2020, 01:28 PM   #3020
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I wonder if he signed in Sharpie...
Crayon.
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Crayon.
Ketchup from his McDonald's Big Mac meal that he would later claim was the blood of his fallen enemies.

This is Trump after all.
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Old 8th April 2020, 02:33 PM   #3022
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I saw someone track it down. They noted that his ballot was sent to his address in Florida on something like March 9, and was returned on March 14. He was not in Florida in any of that time.

Now granted, he is the President and could certainly have a courier bring his ballot to the White House and back to Florida in a day. But the question is, did he? Some reporter could try to track that down.

I would put up good money to bet that he never saw his ballot.

A quick look would establish if he had used the ballot, has it got Trump written over everything else in black sharpie
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Old 8th April 2020, 02:34 PM   #3023
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A quick look would establish if he had used the ballot, has it got Trump written over everything else in black sharpie
In his defense, "Trump" is the one word we can be almost certain he knows how to spell. Probably.

eta: unless that's why he has to have his name slapped everywhere, to remind him. Hmmm. Nevermind, hypothesis withdrawn!
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I wonder if he signed in Sharpie...
I wonder about that. Myself and a colleague sign with a fountain pen. I do it because I enjoy the use of same for many reasons. One of those reasons is that when sitting in the, say, bank managers office, it adds a veneer of authority whether it is real or not. Besides that, I simply enjoy using an expensive pen. Using a fountain pen imposes a certain written discipline due to the risk of smearing the ink. I like that. In ballpoint my writing is illegible. On top of that, one can wander into calligraphy from there simply by swapping nibs. On top of that, one there is a certain pleasure to it. Writing anything anything slowly and carefully seems anathema these days. Some of my fountain pens are antiques.

Now, I will admit my colleague takes it a step further. He insists on using a kind of purple ink. And he refuses to identify it just to annoy me.

The notion of a president signing anything in sharpie with a series of zig zags seems...childlike. It is as if he never got beyond kindergarten.

Oh and note: Neither I nor my colleague are wealthy. We simply like it. There is a tactile experience to a weighty chunk of pen in one's hand.

It makes the current potus look like a child. The best he can manage is a sawtooth wave with a crayon.
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It has to be infuriating, suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

When you hate so much, it really clouds your judgement.

You can even disagree with him then, and be reasonable about it.
Only a true conservatroll would ever use the term Trump Derangement Syndrome unironically.

Hatred of a treasonous, bigoted, bullying criminal is an entirely RATIONAL response.
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Trump says he can’t wait for “gorgeous, beautiful Easter” and suggests we spend our coronavirus downtime getting right with God.
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In his defense, "Trump" is the one word we can be almost certain he knows how to spell. Probably.

eta: unless that's why he has to have his name slapped everywhere, to remind him. Hmmm. Nevermind, hypothesis withdrawn!
Spell? You mean that myocardial infarction graph he scribbles on every document?
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In the UK we call it The Civil Service.

Watch any episode of Yes Minister to see how it works.
British TV satire notwithstanding, the Civil Service would have put an end to Trump's BS in short order because it enforces the rules and standards of good governance.
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Earlier Trump tweeted that he was sending ventilators to Colorado.

They had ordered 500 ventilators, but the order was canceled after FEMA scooped them all up.
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To poke at the next sentence... "That doesn't mean that there's much actual fraud that happens." Yes, though, as far as we can tell, voter fraud is remarkably rare, overall, and the increased turnout associated with allowing everyone the chance to vote easily by mail fairly certainly increases electoral integrity by multiple orders of magnitude more than fraud will reduce electoral integrity, provided that serious, but reasonable, measures are taken to ensure safety and security.
Election fraud in the US is nearly all done on the counting side, not the voter side.
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I wonder about that. Myself and a colleague sign with a fountain pen. I do it because I enjoy the use of same for many reasons. One of those reasons is that when sitting in the, say, bank managers office, it adds a veneer of authority whether it is real or not. Besides that, I simply enjoy using an expensive pen. Using a fountain pen imposes a certain written discipline due to the risk of smearing the ink. I like that. In ballpoint my writing is illegible. On top of that, one can wander into calligraphy from there simply by swapping nibs. On top of that, one there is a certain pleasure to it. Writing anything anything slowly and carefully seems anathema these days. Some of my fountain pens are antiques.

Now, I will admit my colleague takes it a step further. He insists on using a kind of purple ink. And he refuses to identify it just to annoy me.

The notion of a president signing anything in sharpie with a series of zig zags seems...childlike. It is as if he never got beyond kindergarten.

Oh and note: Neither I nor my colleague are wealthy. We simply like it. There is a tactile experience to a weighty chunk of pen in one's hand.

It makes the current potus look like a child. The best he can manage is a sawtooth wave with a crayon.
Have you considered a goose quill? Or, for that truly luxurious experience, a swan quill?
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Earlier Trump tweeted that he was sending ventilators to Colorado.

They had ordered 500 ventilators, but the order was canceled after FEMA scooped them all up.


What I find amazing is that, even when doing something "right", he manages to find a way to screw it up.

Commandeering every ventilator in storage, and all new production that is in the pipeline, is something that the Federal government should be doing. They should have done it months ago, in fact. Then they could be distributed to the various states or cities according to need, based on some kind of objective criteria.

But that's not what Trump did, of course. He went out and encouraged the states to bid against each other, scrambling to each find their own source of supplies, and then went and starting confiscating **** anyways.

So now the states have no idea where anything is, when anything might arrive where it's needed, and how much of it to expect. Not only can't they rely on the Federal plans, they can't even rely on their own plans anymore, because you never know when Trump will waltz in and take everything.

It's the perfect storm of stupid, even though it has a thin veneer of reasonableness smeared on it.
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Earlier Trump tweeted that he was sending ventilators to Colorado.

They had ordered 500 ventilators, but the order was canceled after FEMA scooped them all up.
Trump tweeted “Will be immediately sending 100 Ventilators to Colorado at the request of Senator Gardner!”

The only reason he tweets about this is to make himself look magnanimous as if it's some kind of charity he's doling out to a lowly underling. There really is no reason to be bragging about doing his job. That's what the stockpile is for.
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Have you considered a goose quill? Or, for that truly luxurious experience, a swan quill?
I just finished a biography of Sir Thomas Mallory, and, as an aside, the author mentioned that goose feathers were plucked for use as quills from both sides of the goose's body. Right handers got quills made from feathers on the left side of the goose because they curved to the right. Vice versa for lefties.
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To turn the ship around, you first need to turn to the side and then you turn back the other direction.
No, no, no, the best way to turn the ship around is to sink it, drown yourself and all of your friends, and thereby prevent that ship from ever reaching your preferred destination.
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What I find amazing is that, even when doing something "right", he manages to find a way to screw it up.

Commandeering every ventilator in storage, and all new production that is in the pipeline, is something that the Federal government should be doing. They should have done it months ago, in fact. Then they could be distributed to the various states or cities according to need, based on some kind of objective criteria.

But that's not what Trump did, of course. He went out and encouraged the states to bid against each other, scrambling to each find their own source of supplies, and then went and starting confiscating **** anyways.

So now the states have no idea where anything is, when anything might arrive where it's needed, and how much of it to expect. Not only can't they rely on the Federal plans, they can't even rely on their own plans anymore, because you never know when Trump will waltz in and take everything.

It's the perfect storm of stupid, even though it has a thin veneer of reasonableness smeared on it.
If he was a smarter malignant narcissist, I'd think that it was done on purpose in order to screw over those uppity governors. For better or worse (it's worse, it's always worse), however, it's almost certainly pure executive incompetence.
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Old 8th April 2020, 04:22 PM   #3037
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If he was a smarter malignant narcissist, I'd think that it was done on purpose in order to screw over those uppity governors. For better or worse (it's worse, it's always worse), however, it's almost certainly pure executive incompetence.
Omniincompetence or deliberate sabotage? At certain stage there is no practical difference between them.
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Old 8th April 2020, 04:35 PM   #3038
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Originally Posted by Mader Levap View Post
Omniincompetence or deliberate sabotage? At certain stage there is no practical difference between them.
Of course, which was the point Horatius made. Trump and his collection of sycophantic goons generally do the wrong things and can't do the right thing even when they try.
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Absentee Ballots are a great way to vote for the many senior citizens, military, and others who can’t get to the polls on Election Day. These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is “RIPE for FRAUD,” and shouldn’t be allowed!

This morning, 450,000 protective suits landed in Dallas, Texas. This was made possible because of the partnership of two great American companies—DuPont and FedEx—and our friends in Vietnam. Thank you! @DuPont_News @FedEx
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To date, we've shipped out more than 8,000 ventilators, have an additional 10,000 ready to go, and 2,200 more will be available on Monday.
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