[Continuation] The Trump Presidency: Part 27 - Page 62

acbytesla · 5th April 2021, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

There was no fraud so, no, there will be no arrests. What they did was slimy, underhanded, mean (much the same as Trump) but not illegal

If it isn't illegal, it should be. Using fine print to bilk people is reprehensible.

Stacyhs · 5th April 2021, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
He's as much a Christian as Madeline Murray O'Hare was.

Originally Posted by SezMe

[spelling Nazi]Actually, surprisingly, it's O'Hair[/spelling Nazi]

I'm correcting myself: it's Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Double screw up on my part.

She was not a nice lady, either, even though I admire her taking a stand on the separation of Church and State.

Bob001 · 5th April 2021, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

There was no fraud so, no, there will be no arrests. What they did was slimy, underhanded, mean (much the same as Trump) but not illegal

Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back.

Quote:

Stacy Blatt was in hospice care last September listening to Rush Limbaugh’s dire warnings about how badly Donald J. Trump’s campaign needed money when he went online and chipped in everything he could: $500.

It was a big sum for a 63-year-old battling cancer and living in Kansas City on less than $1,000 per month. But that single contribution — federal records show it was his first ever — quickly multiplied. Another $500 was withdrawn the next day, then $500 the next week and every week through mid-October, without his knowledge — until Mr. Blatt’s bank account had been depleted and frozen. When his utility and rent payments bounced, he called his brother, Russell, for help.

What the Blatts soon discovered was $3,000 in withdrawals by the Trump campaign in less than 30 days. They called their bank and said they thought they were victims of fraud.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen

DevilsAdvocate · 5th April 2021, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen

Was Kevin Trudeau running this thing. This single payment that is actually a recurring payment was a classic Trudeau scam.

The Political Donations "THEY" Don't Want You to Know About.

Blue Mountain · 6th April 2021, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I'm correcting myself: it's Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Double screw up on my part.

She was not a nice lady, either, even though I admire her taking a stand on the separation of Church and State.

Ironically, one of her sons became an evangelical Christian. He spoke at a church I was attending in the 1980s.

Stacyhs · 6th April 2021, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

Ironically, one of her sons became an evangelical Christian. He spoke at a church I was attending in the 1980s.

Over compensation. O'Hair, her son Jon Garth Murray, and her granddaughter Robin Murray O'Hair were murdered by an ex-employee.

ponderingturtle · 6th April 2021, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

The biggest thieves have always worn suits and ties.

Trump belongs behind bars and has for at least two decades. He stole from bus boys, bartenders, bellhops, cooks, waiters and tradesmen who worked at his properties. He stole from investors, insurance companies, students and from the government.

I say stole instead of cheated. The effect is the same to his victims.

There is nothing criminal about mere wage theft though.

GodMark2 · 6th April 2021, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen

The "bump" in payments looks to be "authorized" by failing to clear a checkbox buried in the middle of the legalese fine-print. The question, legally, is whether people can be held to an agreement so obscured. Republicans always seem to fall on the "well, you signed it, you gotta abide by it" side; Real "Letter of the law" and "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" people they keep claiming to be. I'm sure they'll all agree that Trump was just too smart for them, and they will just tip their hats to such a cunning man and feel happy to have been beaten by the best.

Ladewig · 6th April 2021, 09:25 PM

Trump apparently thinks it is time for rebranding.

He has started up 45Office.com.
Cynics have speculated that the Trump brand doesn’t have the cachet it once did, so he is trying out #45

Of course he is still living in his alternate reality
From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12

The Great Zaganza · 6th April 2021, 09:29 PM

That just won't work

DevilsAdvocate · 6th April 2021, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Of course he is still living in his alternate reality
From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12

I'll give that one to Trump. Eisenhower, Grant, and Taylor were high level military. Hoover was Secretary of Everything. They all had extensive high level government positions when they were elected. Trump was something...different.

Hlafordlaes · 6th April 2021, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

I'll give that one to Trump. Eisenhower, Grant, and Taylor were high level military. Hoover was Secretary of Everything. They all had extensive high level government positions when they were elected. Trump was something...different.

Yes, decidedly more in the mold of Hitler. The incoming Republican administration in 2024 will commence with the good ole boy equivalent of the Enabling Act, and game over. Yes, I obviously assume that -- regardless of what Democrats do -- they can never win a presidential election without a storm of outrage at the latest Republican dagger to the American heart. For once in power, they usually fail to heed Machiavelli:

Quote:

“How we live is so different from how we ought to live that he who studies what ought to be done rather than what is done will learn the way to his downfall rather than to his preservation.”
― Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

For example, not nearly enough bombast and vitriol is coming out in the form of "GOP stealing from average Americans" and "Republicans want you homeless and helpless so they stole your union jobs and wages", and so on, ad infinitum. Pork. Only pork can fill the bellies of those who would sell out to the lowest bidder so that they calm down and turn off the damned radio. Next, restoration of media regulation so the damned radio isn't broadcasting GOP hate speech coast to coast in a KKK monopoly on the airwaves. Meanwhile, across the board emotional messaging.

That's right: to beat the truly evil, you need to learn to use a club. Bullies are best taken head on without quarter or mercy, a true and timeless lesson I learned over the course of the 2008 financial crisis. Hopefully, Biden will drop all pretense at working across the aisle, and go for the jugular. You do not pet rabid dogs biting your leg.

Horatius · 7th April 2021, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Trump apparently thinks it is time for rebranding.

He has started up 45Office.com.
Cynics have speculated that the Trump brand doesn’t have the cachet it once did, so he is trying out #45

Of course he is still living in his alternate reality
From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12

If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor.

Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?

Jim_MDP · 7th April 2021, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor.

Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?

"Autoincorrect"?

Horatius · 7th April 2021, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

"Autoincorrect"?

Autoincoherent.

Norman Alexander · 7th April 2021, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Horatius

If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor.

Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

"Autoincorrect"?

Originally Posted by Horatius

Autoincoherent.

Lying.

GodMark2 · 7th April 2021, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Lying.

Now, Now. You can't be lying if what you say doesn't sense grammaticing.

Norman Alexander · 7th April 2021, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by GodMark2

Now, Now. You can't be lying if what you say doesn't sense grammaticing.

Covfefe!

arthwollipot · 7th April 2021, 06:28 PM

I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.

Skeptic Ginger · 7th April 2021, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.

Or he ignores red underlining.

Norman Alexander · 7th April 2021, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Or he ignores red underlining.

Red underlining on accounts means "negative". T**** ignores negative numbers and stuff.

arthwollipot · 7th April 2021, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Or he ignores red underlining.

I'm pretty sure he turned it off. How dare it say he's wrong? It's an insult.

Actually it's more likely that he got one of his staff to turn it off for him.

Skeptic Ginger · 7th April 2021, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

I'm pretty sure he turned it off. How dare it say he's wrong? It's an insult.

Actually it's more likely that he got one of his staff to turn it off for him.

Yeah but how do we know this incurious idiot has a clue what those red lines are for. Maybe he thinks it means those are the best words?

Ladewig · 7th April 2021, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.

And he still claims covfefe was not a typo but rather a reference to something mysterious that a few people know about.

But don’t say he has a mental issue

Because he is a stable genius.

Stacyhs · 7th April 2021, 10:34 PM

"I know more about autocorrect than any covfefes ever could. Hamberders are saying, 'Sir, how do you know so much about autocorrect?' I guess it's just in my DNA. I've got strong genes. Great genes. I had an uncle who taught red underlining at MIT."

Donald J. Trump

alfaniner · 7th April 2021, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Or he ignores red underlining.

Unless it's on young beauty pageant contestants.

eerok · 8th April 2021, 09:41 PM

They're not playin'. Give up your cash.

G.O.P. Group Warns of ‘Defector’ List if Donors Uncheck Recurring Box [nytimes.com]

Quote:

The National Republican Congressional Committee says to donors who opt out of recurring monthly donations: “We will have to tell Trump you’re a DEFECTOR.”

Norman Alexander · 8th April 2021, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by eerok

They're not playin'. Give up your cash.

G.O.P. Group Warns of ‘Defector’ List if Donors Uncheck Recurring Box [nytimes.com]

That sounds awfully like the wording used in the fake DNC soliciting reported in another thread.

gnome · 9th April 2021, 04:33 AM

If you go to the NRCC website, and click the "Donate" link, it brings you to this site, with the mentioned warning. It is not fake.

https://secure.winred.com/nrcc/retake-the-house/

Minoosh · 9th April 2021, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

That sounds awfully like the wording used in the fake DNC soliciting reported in another thread.

I'm not familiar with that case, but threatening to rat on you to Trump if you try to get your money back is really ******* low. They get half your monthly wage, then steal the other half.

He's been calling my house a couple of times a day, sometimes as the RNC, sometimes as a local number. Any chance "the little guy" will finally see their hero is a thief? Or at least, that he hires thieves to take their money?

Norman Alexander · 9th April 2021, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I'm not familiar with that case, but threatening to rat on you to Trump if you try to get your money back is really ******* low. They get half your monthly wage, then steal the other half.

He's been calling my house a couple of times a day, sometimes as the RNC, sometimes as a local number. Any chance "the little guy" will finally see their hero is a thief? Or at least, that he hires thieves to take their money?

Here's a link to a relevant post in the other thread.

And then more here.

kookbreaker · 9th April 2021, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

If you go to the NRCC website, and click the "Donate" link, it brings you to this site, with the mentioned warning. It is not fake.

https://secure.winred.com/nrcc/retake-the-house/

"I'm telling Trump on you!!!"

Ladewig · 9th April 2021, 08:17 AM

Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren.

As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II.
Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940,
What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?

quadraginta · 9th April 2021, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren.

As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II.
Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940,
What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?

I expect there'd be a great deal more German being spoken in Europe and GB.

Segnosaur · 9th April 2021, 12:36 PM

(Not sure if this deserves its own thread or not...)

Looks like the GOP is setting up for one of its conflicts between the Trumpers and the more traditional republicans...

From: CNN
The Senate Leadership Fund will support Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski in her reelection campaign, setting up a clash between the Mitch McConnell-aligned group and GOP candidate Kelly Tshibaka, who has hired some advisers to former President Donald Trump. Trump plans to campaign against Murkowski after her vote to convict him in his second impeachment trial.

Certainly hope Murkowski can block Tshibaka. (Republican support for Trump seems to be fairly solid in Alaska, so even if they get a pro-Trump wingnut nominated, the republicans would probably still win the senate seat. So no point hoping for Murkowski to be primarried and the democrats to win in the aftermath.)

Norman Alexander · 9th April 2021, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren.

As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II.
Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940,
What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?

Churchill became PM only in May 1940. Before then there was Neville Chamberlain of "Peace in our time" fame.

T**** would actually have much more in common with Nev than Winston. He would have much preferred to "deal" with Hitler than fight him. Although obviously he would not have had anyone recording their meetings because there would have been some side hustling going on. The infamous piece of paper would have been a rental agreement for a golf course somewhere.

Churchill would still have booted him easily, and history would not have changed much.

Captain_Swoop · 9th April 2021, 12:48 PM

Trump would have called hitler his friend and talked of the beautiful letters he had been sent.

He is the 'dictators dictator' the daddy of them all..
Trump would have been all over him.

Ladewig · 9th April 2021, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Churchill became PM only in May 1940. Before then there was Neville Chamberlain of "Peace in our time" fame.

T**** would actually have much more in common with Nev than Winston. He would have much preferred to "deal" with Hitler than fight him. Although obviously he would not have had anyone recording their meetings because there would have been some side hustling going on. The infamous piece of paper would have been a rental agreement for a golf course somewhere.

Churchill would still have booted him easily, and history would not have changed much.

I meant an alternate timeline in which 70-year-old Trump is in office at the end of 1940 and Churchill doesn’t exist.

Obviously, Churchill could have booted Trump politically, physically, intellectually, and in every other matter.

Ladewig · 9th April 2021, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump would have called hitler his friend and talked of the beautiful letters he had been sent.

He is the 'dictators dictator' the daddy of them all..
Trump would have been all over him.

Especially if Adolf Hitler played up the Aryan-blood we-are-ubermenschen crap.

Phone call:
AH: “Donald, we need not follow Christian morality. You and I are far above that. Are you familiar with Neitzsche?”

DJT: “Of course I am. No one knows more about about Neitzsche than I do. Academic scholarly professors come to me to explain that guy to them.”

AH: “We should meet in person, you should fly to Berlin. I’ll have a parade in your honor. Also, when you come, could you bring a lot of unarmed military planes with you? I want to show my Air Force what real planes look like.

Trebuchet · 9th April 2021, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Churchill became PM only in May 1940. Before then there was Neville Chamberlain of "Peace in our time" fame.

T**** would actually have much more in common with Nev than Winston. He would have much preferred to "deal" with Hitler than fight him. Although obviously he would not have had anyone recording their meetings because there would have been some side hustling going on. The infamous piece of paper would have been a rental agreement for a golf course somewhere.

Churchill would still have booted him easily, and history would not have changed much.

Trump would have had more yet in common with Oswald Mosley.

5th April 2021, 06:24 PM	#2441
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,590	Originally Posted by SezMe There was no fraud so, no, there will be no arrests. What they did was slimy, underhanded, mean (much the same as Trump) but not illegal If it isn't illegal, it should be. Using fine print to bilk people is reprehensible.
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5th April 2021, 08:49 PM	#2444
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,587	Originally Posted by Bob001 Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen Was Kevin Trudeau running this thing. This single payment that is actually a recurring payment was a classic Trudeau scam. The Political Donations "THEY" Don't Want You to Know About.
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6th April 2021, 12:28 AM	#2445
Blue Mountain Resident Skeptical Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waging war on woo-woo in Winnipeg Posts: 6,520	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I'm correcting myself: it's Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Double screw up on my part. She was not a nice lady, either, even though I admire her taking a stand on the separation of Church and State. Ironically, one of her sons became an evangelical Christian. He spoke at a church I was attending in the 1980s.
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6th April 2021, 10:50 AM	#2447
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,746	Originally Posted by acbytesla The biggest thieves have always worn suits and ties. Trump belongs behind bars and has for at least two decades. He stole from bus boys, bartenders, bellhops, cooks, waiters and tradesmen who worked at his properties. He stole from investors, insurance companies, students and from the government. I say stole instead of cheated. The effect is the same to his victims. There is nothing criminal about mere wage theft though.
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6th April 2021, 04:14 PM	#2448
GodMark2 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 2,210	Originally Posted by Bob001 Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen The "bump" in payments looks to be "authorized" by failing to clear a checkbox buried in the middle of the legalese fine-print. The question, legally, is whether people can be held to an agreement so obscured. Republicans always seem to fall on the "well, you signed it, you gotta abide by it" side; Real "Letter of the law" and "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" people they keep claiming to be. I'm sure they'll all agree that Trump was just too smart for them, and they will just tip their hats to such a cunning man and feel happy to have been beaten by the best.
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5th April 2021, 06:45 PM	#2442
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,221	Quote: Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post He's as much a Christian as Madeline Murray O'Hare was. Originally Posted by SezMe [spelling Nazi]Actually, surprisingly, it's O'Hair[/spelling Nazi] I'm correcting myself: it's Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Double screw up on my part. She was not a nice lady, either, even though I admire her taking a stand on the separation of Church and State.

5th April 2021, 07:15 PM	#2443
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 13,002	Originally Posted by SezMe There was no fraud so, no, there will be no arrests. What they did was slimy, underhanded, mean (much the same as Trump) but not illegal Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back. Quote: Stacy Blatt was in hospice care last September listening to Rush Limbaugh’s dire warnings about how badly Donald J. Trump’s campaign needed money when he went online and chipped in everything he could: $500. It was a big sum for a 63-year-old battling cancer and living in Kansas City on less than $1,000 per month. But that single contribution — federal records show it was his first ever — quickly multiplied. Another $500 was withdrawn the next day, then $500 the next week and every week through mid-October, without his knowledge — until Mr. Blatt’s bank account had been depleted and frozen. When his utility and rent payments bounced, he called his brother, Russell, for help. What the Blatts soon discovered was $3,000 in withdrawals by the Trump campaign in less than 30 days. They called their bank and said they thought they were victims of fraud. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen

6th April 2021, 10:39 AM	#2446
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,221	Originally Posted by Blue Mountain Ironically, one of her sons became an evangelical Christian. He spoke at a church I was attending in the 1980s. Over compensation. O'Hair, her son Jon Garth Murray, and her granddaughter Robin Murray O'Hair were murdered by an ex-employee.

6th April 2021, 09:25 PM	#2449
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,094	Trump apparently thinks it is time for rebranding. He has started up 45Office.com. Cynics have speculated that the Trump brand doesn’t have the cachet it once did, so he is trying out #45 Of course he is still living in his alternate reality From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12
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6th April 2021, 09:29 PM	#2450
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6th April 2021, 09:36 PM	#2451
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,587	Originally Posted by Ladewig Of course he is still living in his alternate reality From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12 I'll give that one to Trump. Eisenhower, Grant, and Taylor were high level military. Hoover was Secretary of Everything. They all had extensive high level government positions when they were elected. Trump was something...different.
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6th April 2021, 10:32 PM	#2452
Hlafordlaes Disorder of Kilopi Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: State of Flux Posts: 14,958	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate I'll give that one to Trump. Eisenhower, Grant, and Taylor were high level military. Hoover was Secretary of Everything. They all had extensive high level government positions when they were elected. Trump was something...different. Yes, decidedly more in the mold of Hitler. The incoming Republican administration in 2024 will commence with the good ole boy equivalent of the Enabling Act, and game over. Yes, I obviously assume that -- regardless of what Democrats do -- they can never win a presidential election without a storm of outrage at the latest Republican dagger to the American heart. For once in power, they usually fail to heed Machiavelli: Quote: “How we live is so different from how we ought to live that he who studies what ought to be done rather than what is done will learn the way to his downfall rather than to his preservation.” ― Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince For example, not nearly enough bombast and vitriol is coming out in the form of "GOP stealing from average Americans" and "Republicans want you homeless and helpless so they stole your union jobs and wages", and so on, ad infinitum. Pork. Only pork can fill the bellies of those who would sell out to the lowest bidder so that they calm down and turn off the damned radio. Next, restoration of media regulation so the damned radio isn't broadcasting GOP hate speech coast to coast in a KKK monopoly on the airwaves. Meanwhile, across the board emotional messaging. That's right: to beat the truly evil, you need to learn to use a club. Bullies are best taken head on without quarter or mercy, a true and timeless lesson I learned over the course of the 2008 financial crisis. Hopefully, Biden will drop all pretense at working across the aisle, and go for the jugular. You do not pet rabid dogs biting your leg.
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7th April 2021, 06:04 AM	#2453
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,140	Originally Posted by Ladewig Trump apparently thinks it is time for rebranding. He has started up 45Office.com. Cynics have speculated that the Trump brand doesn’t have the cachet it once did, so he is trying out #45 Of course he is still living in his alternate reality From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12 If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor. Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?
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7th April 2021, 07:42 AM	#2454
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 8,112	Originally Posted by Horatius If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor. Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech? "Autoincorrect"?
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7th April 2021, 11:18 AM	#2455
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,140	Originally Posted by Jim_MDP "Autoincorrect"? Autoincoherent.
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7th April 2021, 12:58 PM	#2456
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,163	Originally Posted by Horatius If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor. Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech? Originally Posted by Jim_MDP "Autoincorrect"? Originally Posted by Horatius Autoincoherent. Lying.
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7th April 2021, 01:59 PM	#2457
GodMark2 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 2,210	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Lying. Now, Now. You can't be lying if what you say doesn't sense grammaticing.
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7th April 2021, 03:00 PM	#2458
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,163	Originally Posted by GodMark2 Now, Now. You can't be lying if what you say doesn't sense grammaticing. Covfefe!
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7th April 2021, 06:28 PM	#2459
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 71,033	I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.
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7th April 2021, 07:37 PM	#2460
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,829	Originally Posted by arthwollipot I'm pretty sure that T** turned off** autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder. Or he ignores red underlining.

7th April 2021, 07:44 PM	#2461
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,163	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Or he ignores red underlining. Red underlining on accounts means "negative". T**** ignores negative numbers and stuff.
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7th April 2021, 07:46 PM	#2462
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 71,033	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Or he ignores red underlining. I'm pretty sure he turned it off. How dare it say he's wrong? It's an insult. Actually it's more likely that he got one of his staff to turn it off for him.
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7th April 2021, 08:22 PM	#2463
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,829	Originally Posted by arthwollipot I'm pretty sure he turned it off. How dare it say he's wrong? It's an insult. Actually it's more likely that he got one of his staff to turn it off for him. Yeah but how do we know this incurious idiot has a clue what those red lines are for. Maybe he thinks it means those are the best words?

7th April 2021, 09:06 PM	#2464
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,094	Originally Posted by arthwollipot I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder. And he still claims covfefe was not a typo but rather a reference to something mysterious that a few people know about. But don’t say he has a mental issue Because he is a stable genius.
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7th April 2021, 10:34 PM	#2465
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,221	"I know more about autocorrect than any covfefes ever could. Hamberders are saying, 'Sir, how do you know so much about autocorrect?' I guess it's just in my DNA. I've got strong genes. Great genes. I had an uncle who taught red underlining at MIT." Donald J. Trump

7th April 2021, 11:27 PM	#2466
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 25,059	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Or he ignores red underlining. Unless it's on young beauty pageant contestants.
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8th April 2021, 09:41 PM	#2467
eerok Quixoticist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ON Canada Posts: 3,694	They're not playin'. Give up your cash. G.O.P. Group Warns of ‘Defector’ List if Donors Uncheck Recurring Box [nytimes.com] Quote: The National Republican Congressional Committee says to donors who opt out of recurring monthly donations: “We will have to tell Trump you’re a DEFECTOR.”
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8th April 2021, 11:56 PM	#2468
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,163	Originally Posted by eerok They're not playin'. Give up your cash. G.O.P. Group Warns of ‘Defector’ List if Donors Uncheck Recurring Box [nytimes.com] That sounds awfully like the wording used in the fake DNC soliciting reported in another thread.
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9th April 2021, 04:33 AM	#2469
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 11,263	If you go to the NRCC website, and click the "Donate" link, it brings you to this site, with the mentioned warning. It is not fake. https://secure.winred.com/nrcc/retake-the-house/
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9th April 2021, 05:42 AM	#2470
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,330	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander That sounds awfully like the wording used in the fake DNC soliciting reported in another thread. I'm not familiar with that case, but threatening to rat on you to Trump if you try to get your money back is really ******* low. They get half your monthly wage, then steal the other half. He's been calling my house a couple of times a day, sometimes as the RNC, sometimes as a local number. Any chance "the little guy" will finally see their hero is a thief? Or at least, that he hires thieves to take their money?

9th April 2021, 06:28 AM	#2471
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,163	Originally Posted by Minoosh I'm not familiar with that case, but threatening to rat on you to Trump if you try to get your money back is really ******* low. They get half your monthly wage, then steal the other half. He's been calling my house a couple of times a day, sometimes as the RNC, sometimes as a local number. Any chance "the little guy" will finally see their hero is a thief? Or at least, that he hires thieves to take their money? Here's a link to a relevant post in the other thread. And then more here.
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9th April 2021, 07:24 AM	#2472
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,248	Originally Posted by gnome If you go to the NRCC website, and click the "Donate" link, it brings you to this site, with the mentioned warning. It is not fake. https://secure.winred.com/nrcc/retake-the-house/ "I'm telling Trump on you!!!"
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9th April 2021, 08:17 AM	#2473
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,094	Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren. As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II. Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940, What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?
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9th April 2021, 12:23 PM	#2474
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility (USA, sort of) Posts: 26,272	Originally Posted by Ladewig Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren. As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II. Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940, What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred? I expect there'd be a great deal more German being spoken in Europe and GB.
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9th April 2021, 12:36 PM	#2475
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,343	(Not sure if this deserves its own thread or not...) Looks like the GOP is setting up for one of its conflicts between the Trumpers and the more traditional republicans... From: CNN The Senate Leadership Fund will support Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski in her reelection campaign, setting up a clash between the Mitch McConnell-aligned group and GOP candidate Kelly Tshibaka, who has hired some advisers to former President Donald Trump. Trump plans to campaign against Murkowski after her vote to convict him in his second impeachment trial. Certainly hope Murkowski can block Tshibaka. (Republican support for Trump seems to be fairly solid in Alaska, so even if they get a pro-Trump wingnut nominated, the republicans would probably still win the senate seat. So no point hoping for Murkowski to be primarried and the democrats to win in the aftermath.)
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