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Old 5th April 2021, 06:24 PM   #2441
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Originally Posted by SezMe View Post
There was no fraud so, no, there will be no arrests. What they did was slimy, underhanded, mean (much the same as Trump) but not illegal
If it isn't illegal, it should be. Using fine print to bilk people is reprehensible.
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Old 5th April 2021, 06:45 PM   #2442
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He's as much a Christian as Madeline Murray O'Hare was.
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[spelling Nazi]Actually, surprisingly, it's O'Hair[/spelling Nazi]
I'm correcting myself: it's Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Double screw up on my part.

She was not a nice lady, either, even though I admire her taking a stand on the separation of Church and State.
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Old 5th April 2021, 07:15 PM   #2443
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Originally Posted by SezMe View Post
There was no fraud so, no, there will be no arrests. What they did was slimy, underhanded, mean (much the same as Trump) but not illegal

Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back.
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Stacy Blatt was in hospice care last September listening to Rush Limbaugh’s dire warnings about how badly Donald J. Trump’s campaign needed money when he went online and chipped in everything he could: $500.

It was a big sum for a 63-year-old battling cancer and living in Kansas City on less than $1,000 per month. But that single contribution — federal records show it was his first ever — quickly multiplied. Another $500 was withdrawn the next day, then $500 the next week and every week through mid-October, without his knowledge — until Mr. Blatt’s bank account had been depleted and frozen. When his utility and rent payments bounced, he called his brother, Russell, for help.

What the Blatts soon discovered was $3,000 in withdrawals by the Trump campaign in less than 30 days. They called their bank and said they thought they were victims of fraud.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen
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Old 5th April 2021, 08:49 PM   #2444
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen
Was Kevin Trudeau running this thing. This single payment that is actually a recurring payment was a classic Trudeau scam.

The Political Donations "THEY" Don't Want You to Know About.
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Old 6th April 2021, 12:28 AM   #2445
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
I'm correcting myself: it's Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Double screw up on my part.

She was not a nice lady, either, even though I admire her taking a stand on the separation of Church and State.
Ironically, one of her sons became an evangelical Christian. He spoke at a church I was attending in the 1980s.
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Old 6th April 2021, 10:39 AM   #2446
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Originally Posted by Blue Mountain View Post
Ironically, one of her sons became an evangelical Christian. He spoke at a church I was attending in the 1980s.
Over compensation. O'Hair, her son Jon Garth Murray, and her granddaughter Robin Murray O'Hair were murdered by an ex-employee.
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Old 6th April 2021, 10:50 AM   #2447
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The biggest thieves have always worn suits and ties.

Trump belongs behind bars and has for at least two decades. He stole from bus boys, bartenders, bellhops, cooks, waiters and tradesmen who worked at his properties. He stole from investors, insurance companies, students and from the government.

I say stole instead of cheated. The effect is the same to his victims.
There is nothing criminal about mere wage theft though.
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Old 6th April 2021, 04:14 PM   #2448
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Not so fast. There are reports that, even after people unknowingly authorized a monthly "donation," the campaign changed the frequency to weekly or even more often without the knowledge, let alone the permission, of the victim. That would be outright fraud. Giving the money back, as they have when requested, probably forestalls prosecution. But not every victim has caught the scam or demanded their money back.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-BB1fgYen
The "bump" in payments looks to be "authorized" by failing to clear a checkbox buried in the middle of the legalese fine-print. The question, legally, is whether people can be held to an agreement so obscured. Republicans always seem to fall on the "well, you signed it, you gotta abide by it" side; Real "Letter of the law" and "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" people they keep claiming to be. I'm sure they'll all agree that Trump was just too smart for them, and they will just tip their hats to such a cunning man and feel happy to have been beaten by the best.
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Old 6th April 2021, 09:25 PM   #2449
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Trump apparently thinks it is time for rebranding.

He has started up 45Office.com.
Cynics have speculated that the Trump brand doesn’t have the cachet it once did, so he is trying out #45

Of course he is still living in his alternate reality
From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12
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Old 6th April 2021, 09:29 PM   #2450
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Old 6th April 2021, 09:36 PM   #2451
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Of course he is still living in his alternate reality
From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12
I'll give that one to Trump. Eisenhower, Grant, and Taylor were high level military. Hoover was Secretary of Everything. They all had extensive high level government positions when they were elected. Trump was something...different.
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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
I'll give that one to Trump. Eisenhower, Grant, and Taylor were high level military. Hoover was Secretary of Everything. They all had extensive high level government positions when they were elected. Trump was something...different.
Yes, decidedly more in the mold of Hitler. The incoming Republican administration in 2024 will commence with the good ole boy equivalent of the Enabling Act, and game over. Yes, I obviously assume that -- regardless of what Democrats do -- they can never win a presidential election without a storm of outrage at the latest Republican dagger to the American heart. For once in power, they usually fail to heed Machiavelli:

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For example, not nearly enough bombast and vitriol is coming out in the form of "GOP stealing from average Americans" and "Republicans want you homeless and helpless so they stole your union jobs and wages", and so on, ad infinitum. Pork. Only pork can fill the bellies of those who would sell out to the lowest bidder so that they calm down and turn off the damned radio. Next, restoration of media regulation so the damned radio isn't broadcasting GOP hate speech coast to coast in a KKK monopoly on the airwaves. Meanwhile, across the board emotional messaging.

That's right: to beat the truly evil, you need to learn to use a club. Bullies are best taken head on without quarter or mercy, a true and timeless lesson I learned over the course of the 2008 financial crisis. Hopefully, Biden will drop all pretense at working across the aisle, and go for the jugular. You do not pet rabid dogs biting your leg.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Trump apparently thinks it is time for rebranding.

He has started up 45Office.com.
Cynics have speculated that the Trump brand doesn’t have the cachet it once did, so he is trying out #45

Of course he is still living in his alternate reality
From the website “... becoming the first true outsider elected as President of the United States.” Except for Eisenhower, Hoover, Grant, and Taylor. (or to put it in Trump-speak 34, 31, 18, and 12


If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor.

Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?
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If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor.



Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?
"Autoincorrect"?
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
"Autoincorrect"?


Autoincoherent.
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Old 7th April 2021, 12:58 PM   #2456
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
If I didn't know the context, I'd think this was a site for some sort of word processor.

Maybe it autocorrects everything you type into Proper Trump Speech?
Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
"Autoincorrect"?
Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
Autoincoherent.
Lying.
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Lying.
Now, Now. You can't be lying if what you say doesn't sense grammaticing.
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Old 7th April 2021, 03:00 PM   #2458
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Now, Now. You can't be lying if what you say doesn't sense grammaticing.
Covfefe!
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I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.
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I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.
Or he ignores red underlining.
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Or he ignores red underlining.
Red underlining on accounts means "negative". T**** ignores negative numbers and stuff.
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Or he ignores red underlining.
I'm pretty sure he turned it off. How dare it say he's wrong? It's an insult.

Actually it's more likely that he got one of his staff to turn it off for him.
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I'm pretty sure he turned it off. How dare it say he's wrong? It's an insult.

Actually it's more likely that he got one of his staff to turn it off for him.
Yeah but how do we know this incurious idiot has a clue what those red lines are for. Maybe he thinks it means those are the best words?
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I'm pretty sure that T**** turned off autocorrect years ago. He is incapable of being wrong, so why should he need to be corrected? I believe this to be the reason for things like covfefe and hamberder.
And he still claims covfefe was not a typo but rather a reference to something mysterious that a few people know about.

But don’t say he has a mental issue

Because he is a stable genius.
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"I know more about autocorrect than any covfefes ever could. Hamberders are saying, 'Sir, how do you know so much about autocorrect?' I guess it's just in my DNA. I've got strong genes. Great genes. I had an uncle who taught red underlining at MIT."

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Or he ignores red underlining.
Unless it's on young beauty pageant contestants.
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They're not playin'. Give up your cash.

G.O.P. Group Warns of ‘Defector’ List if Donors Uncheck Recurring Box [nytimes.com]
That sounds awfully like the wording used in the fake DNC soliciting reported in another thread.
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That sounds awfully like the wording used in the fake DNC soliciting reported in another thread.
I'm not familiar with that case, but threatening to rat on you to Trump if you try to get your money back is really ******* low. They get half your monthly wage, then steal the other half.

He's been calling my house a couple of times a day, sometimes as the RNC, sometimes as a local number. Any chance "the little guy" will finally see their hero is a thief? Or at least, that he hires thieves to take their money?
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I'm not familiar with that case, but threatening to rat on you to Trump if you try to get your money back is really ******* low. They get half your monthly wage, then steal the other half.

He's been calling my house a couple of times a day, sometimes as the RNC, sometimes as a local number. Any chance "the little guy" will finally see their hero is a thief? Or at least, that he hires thieves to take their money?
Here's a link to a relevant post in the other thread.

And then more here.
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As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II.
Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940,
What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?
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Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren.

As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II.
Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940,
What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?

I expect there'd be a great deal more German being spoken in Europe and GB.
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Old 9th April 2021, 12:36 PM   #2475
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(Not sure if this deserves its own thread or not...)

Looks like the GOP is setting up for one of its conflicts between the Trumpers and the more traditional republicans...

From: CNN
The Senate Leadership Fund will support Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski in her reelection campaign, setting up a clash between the Mitch McConnell-aligned group and GOP candidate Kelly Tshibaka, who has hired some advisers to former President Donald Trump. Trump plans to campaign against Murkowski after her vote to convict him in his second impeachment trial.

Certainly hope Murkowski can block Tshibaka. (Republican support for Trump seems to be fairly solid in Alaska, so even if they get a pro-Trump wingnut nominated, the republicans would probably still win the senate seat. So no point hoping for Murkowski to be primarried and the democrats to win in the aftermath.)
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Old 9th April 2021, 12:46 PM   #2476
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Guten morgen meine Damen und Herren.

As I read about Phillip’s death I thought about Churchill and WW II.
Then I thought about what the world would look like if №45 (2016 version) were prime minister of Britain in 1940,
What do you think the chances might be that the ending of the Second World War would have been equal to or better than what actually occurred?
Churchill became PM only in May 1940. Before then there was Neville Chamberlain of "Peace in our time" fame.

T**** would actually have much more in common with Nev than Winston. He would have much preferred to "deal" with Hitler than fight him. Although obviously he would not have had anyone recording their meetings because there would have been some side hustling going on. The infamous piece of paper would have been a rental agreement for a golf course somewhere.

Churchill would still have booted him easily, and history would not have changed much.
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Old 9th April 2021, 12:48 PM   #2477
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Trump would have called hitler his friend and talked of the beautiful letters he had been sent.

He is the 'dictators dictator' the daddy of them all..
Trump would have been all over him.
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Old 9th April 2021, 01:32 PM   #2478
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Churchill became PM only in May 1940. Before then there was Neville Chamberlain of "Peace in our time" fame.

T**** would actually have much more in common with Nev than Winston. He would have much preferred to "deal" with Hitler than fight him. Although obviously he would not have had anyone recording their meetings because there would have been some side hustling going on. The infamous piece of paper would have been a rental agreement for a golf course somewhere.

Churchill would still have booted him easily, and history would not have changed much.
I meant an alternate timeline in which 70-year-old Trump is in office at the end of 1940 and Churchill doesn’t exist.

Obviously, Churchill could have booted Trump politically, physically, intellectually, and in every other matter.
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Old 9th April 2021, 01:51 PM   #2479
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump would have called hitler his friend and talked of the beautiful letters he had been sent.

He is the 'dictators dictator' the daddy of them all..
Trump would have been all over him.
Especially if Adolf Hitler played up the Aryan-blood we-are-ubermenschen crap.

Phone call:
AH: “Donald, we need not follow Christian morality. You and I are far above that. Are you familiar with Neitzsche?”

DJT: “Of course I am. No one knows more about about Neitzsche than I do. Academic scholarly professors come to me to explain that guy to them.”

AH: “We should meet in person, you should fly to Berlin. I’ll have a parade in your honor. Also, when you come, could you bring a lot of unarmed military planes with you? I want to show my Air Force what real planes look like.
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Old 9th April 2021, 03:29 PM   #2480
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Churchill became PM only in May 1940. Before then there was Neville Chamberlain of "Peace in our time" fame.

T**** would actually have much more in common with Nev than Winston. He would have much preferred to "deal" with Hitler than fight him. Although obviously he would not have had anyone recording their meetings because there would have been some side hustling going on. The infamous piece of paper would have been a rental agreement for a golf course somewhere.

Churchill would still have booted him easily, and history would not have changed much.
Trump would have had more yet in common with Oswald Mosley.
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