ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » Non-USA & General Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags Australia elections , Australia politics , Julie Bishop , Malcolm Turnbull , Tony Abbott

Reply
Old 11th April 2018, 02:38 PM   #1521
Thor 2
Illuminator
 
Thor 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Brisbane, Aust.
Posts: 3,530
Well Abbott is at it again:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-1...denial/9640784

Quote:
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has laid into Malcolm Turnbull and some senior members of the Government, accusing them of being "clever with words" and getting their "knickers in a twist" over a news report about Australia's migration policy.
Aren't we glad Abbott so gracefully exited the job as prime minister with those words:

'There will be no wrecking, no undermining, and no sniping'
__________________
Thinking is a faith hazard.
Thor 2 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 12th April 2018, 01:41 PM   #1522
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena
 
arthwollipot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 56,756
Who remembers that, anyway?
__________________
"This quote was taken out of context."
- Randall Munroe
arthwollipot is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 20th April 2018, 02:23 PM   #1523
Thor 2
Illuminator
 
Thor 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Brisbane, Aust.
Posts: 3,530
So we have a storm brewing now about Christian faith healers, "Praying the Gay Away" with, as reported, very harmful effects on the gay folk targeted.

The Heath Minister has been petitioned to intervene but refuses to. Now the new Deputy Prime Minister, Michael McCormack, has endorsed this action - or lack thereof.

Given his publicised remark regarding gays back in the 1990's this is hardly surprising:

Quote:
“Unfortunately gays are here and, if the disease their unnatural acts helped spread doesn’t wipe out humanity, they’re here to stay.”
To be fair he did apologise for this remark some years ago, but I wonder how much political expediency had to play in that action. Given his lack of apparent interest in the problem at hand we can be forgiven for our cynicism.
__________________
Thinking is a faith hazard.
Thor 2 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 21st April 2018, 04:54 PM   #1524
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena
 
arthwollipot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 56,756
No-one who was paying attention thought that this would go away when equal marriage passed.

Meanwhile, the Greens want to legalise marijuana.
__________________
"This quote was taken out of context."
- Randall Munroe
arthwollipot is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2018, 05:07 PM   #1525
lionking
In the Peanut Gallery
 
lionking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 41,545
Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
No-one who was paying attention thought that this would go away when equal marriage passed.

Meanwhile, the Greens want to legalise marijuana.
Which is why the Greens will remain irrelevant outside a few inner suburbs. It’s effectively decriminalised now, and is an issue which is utterly trivial.
__________________
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Sir Winston Churchill
lionking is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2018, 09:31 PM   #1526
rjh01
Gentleman of leisure
Tagger
 
rjh01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Flying around in the sky
Posts: 23,544
Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
No-one who was paying attention thought that this would go away when equal marriage passed.

Meanwhile, the Greens want to legalise marijuana.
Originally Posted by lionking View Post
Which is why the Greens will remain irrelevant outside a few inner suburbs. It’s effectively decriminalised now, and is an issue which is utterly trivial.
Actually Australia has a long way to go before it is sold in shops for the use of adults.

Here are a couple of news articles on that issue
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-2...tralia/9681628
Quote:
Asked if he had a view about legalising recreational cannabis use, federal Health Minister Greg Hunt told Four Corners: "It's not something that the Commonwealth is proposing, but it is a matter for individual states, under the constitution."
Senator Di Natale has proposed regulating the sale and use of marijuana by adults in Australia, which he said would raise hundreds of millions of tax dollars.
Mr Hunt slammed the policy as "open slather for a highly addictive and dangerous drug"
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...3315da3fce7474

Quote:
Earlier this year, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine completed the world’s most comprehensive study into marijuana to try and find an answer.
After examining more than 10,000 scientific abstracts dating back to 1999, the extensive 395-page report unearthed more than 100 conclusions about the health effects of recreational and therapeutic cannabis use — many of which support arguments it should be legal.
“The evidence suggests that smoking cannabis does not increase the risk for certain cancers (i.e., lung, head, and neck) in adults,” one of the findings read.
The report also confirmed the many therapeutic effects of weed.
rjh01 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old Yesterday, 02:07 PM   #1527
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena
 
arthwollipot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 56,756
Yeah, Hunt is wrong about dope being a highly addictive and dangerous drug. It just isn't. Alcohol causes way more real damage, ruins more peoples' lives, and puts more people in hospital than dope does.

Go down to any police station on a Saturday night and see how many people are in the lockup because they were drunk, vs how many people are in the lockup because they were stoned.

Marijuana should be completely legalised, and enforcement on other harder and more damaging drugs like heroin and crystal meth should focus on harm reduction rather than punishing end users.
__________________
"This quote was taken out of context."
- Randall Munroe
arthwollipot is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old Today, 12:05 AM   #1528
rjh01
Gentleman of leisure
Tagger
 
rjh01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Flying around in the sky
Posts: 23,544
Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Yeah, Hunt is wrong about dope being a highly addictive and dangerous drug. It just isn't. Alcohol causes way more real damage, ruins more peoples' lives, and puts more people in hospital than dope does.

Go down to any police station on a Saturday night and see how many people are in the lockup because they were drunk, vs how many people are in the lockup because they were stoned.

Marijuana should be completely legalised, and enforcement on other harder and more damaging drugs like heroin and crystal meth should focus on harm reduction rather than punishing end users.
One more reason to make such drugs legal. When politicians say something stupid like that at least most people will know it is stupid if it is legal.
rjh01 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old Today, 01:13 AM   #1529
lionking
In the Peanut Gallery
 
lionking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 41,545
Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Yeah, Hunt is wrong about dope being a highly addictive and dangerous drug. It just isn't. Alcohol causes way more real damage, ruins more peoples' lives, and puts more people in hospital than dope does.

Go down to any police station on a Saturday night and see how many people are in the lockup because they were drunk, vs how many people are in the lockup because they were stoned.

Marijuana should be completely legalised, and enforcement on other harder and more damaging drugs like heroin and crystal meth should focus on harm reduction rather than punishing end users.
With legalisation comes licensing, taxes, advertising, sponsorships, big business....do you want me to go on? Decriminalise it, don't legalise it. Allow people to grow their own without penalties. Crack down on industrial cultivation.
__________________
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Sir Winston Churchill
lionking is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » Non-USA & General Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:45 AM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2014, TribeTech AB. All Rights Reserved.
This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.