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Old 27th September 2021, 06:58 PM   #1
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Rep. Lauren Boebert used campaign funds for rent and utilities, new filing shows

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/23/polit...ses/index.html

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(CNN)Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert paid utility and rent bills with campaign funds, according to a new filing the Republican lawmaker made this week with the Federal Election Commission.

The report, submitted to the FEC on Tuesday, details a series of four payments this year totaling $6,650 to John Pacheco, whose address is the same as Shooters Grill in Rifle, Colorado -- the gun-themed restaurant that Boebert owns. The payments are described as rent and utilities that had been erroneously billed to campaign.
Boebert refused to answer CNN's questions Thursday. In an email, her spokesman Ben Stout said the funds in question "were reimbursed months ago when Rep. Boebert self-reported the error."

It is against the law to use campaign funds for personal use. And Adav Noti, a top official with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center, said using donors' money to pay rent and utilities is a "flagrant violation."

"There are some gray areas in campaign finance law, and this is really not one of them," added Noti, a former associate general counsel at the FEC.
But how federal regulators respond, he said, depends on the circumstances and whether payments represented an intentional attempt to misuse campaign dollars or were the result of sloppy compliance processes within the campaign.
U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert’s campaign has publicly acknowledged that a prior campaign finance report — which raised ethical red flags and led to multiple requests for investigation — was inaccurate. Still, the campaign defended a large payment to the congresswoman.

On Feb. 2, The Denver Post reported that Boebert, a Republican from Silt, was paid more than $22,000 in mileage reimbursements from her campaign account, an unusually large amount that several ethics experts said raised questions. To justify the reimbursement, Boebert would have had to drive 38,712 miles last year during a pandemic that limited travel for several months.

Most of that money was paid on Nov. 11, when Boebert received $21,200 from her campaign coffers for mileage, according to her campaign’s original report, filed in December.


Another huckster.
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Old 27th September 2021, 07:01 PM   #2
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I thought she lived in ****, Colorado. Seems it's just Silt. My mistake. There but for a spelling mistake...
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Old 27th September 2021, 07:21 PM   #3
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Boebert also drew laughs and slams on social media for the following glitch. Below is a press release her office issued to announce Boebert is filing articles of impeachment against President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris:.
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This is such a sad and easy to avoid mistake. It is perfectly within the regulations to pay oneself for campaign work. They can pay themselves up to as much as their last professional income provided or the office they are seeking to gain.

Political hay can be made for doing so and many avoid it for that reason, but it is not forbidden. It is for the purpose of allowing a regular, working-class person to be able to focus on campaigning against an entrenched incumbent.

The caveat, however, is they can only do so after the filing deadline (varies by state). The earliest deadline is for the primary (primary and general are considered 2 races with separate limits).

Even though that would prevent her from paying herself now, she could have simply paid anyone else on the business's corporate board (also easy to amend) for "consulting services" to then pay those bills.

I have prepared and filed returns for a challenger myself. It really isn't that hard to play games with the numbers to stay inside the letter of the law. If one isn't a complete idiot, that is.

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Boebert also drew laughs and slams on social media for the following glitch. Below is a press release her office issued to announce Boebert is filing articles of impeachment against President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris:.
Where can I find more detailed information on the Articles of Imeachment?
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Old 27th September 2021, 10:22 PM   #6
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Boebert is a few bullets short of a full magazine.
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Boebert also aimed a tweet at the stupidity of trying to get everyone vaccinated. Except, y'know, it's Laurie so it didn't make a whole lot of sense:
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Lauren Boebert @laurenboebert
I woke up with a headache this morning. I took some Tylenol.
Now if everyone else could take some Tylenol too so mine
would start working, that would be great. Twitter link

It called to mind another 'Laurie epi' back in May when she received a warning letter from Congressional staff warning her that if she continued to violate requirements that members wear a face mask while in Congressional chambers she would be fined. First she tweeted back at Nancy Pelosi:
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.@SpeakerPelosi your mask mandate is dumb, arbitrary, and outdated. End it. FOX News' Colorado Springs affiliate story
She then tweeted an image of the letter she received and then an image of the letter torn in half and deposited in a trash can.
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Old 28th September 2021, 05:55 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Where can I find more detailed information on the Articles of Imeachment?

Snopes has an article about the misspelling that includes some more information about the impeachment.

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Boebert’s article of impeachment against Biden accuses him of having “wilfully abandoned his duties as Commander-in-Chief” and having “[given] aid and comfort to our enemies,” in connection with the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, and the subsequent Taliban takeover of the country.

The article of impeachment against Harris accuses her of having “violated her oath of office to support and defend the Constitution” by supporting the Afghanistan withdrawal, as well as having “neglected her duties as Vice President by failing to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove President Biden from office…”
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Okay. And? This is the least crazy, stupid, and evil thing this broad has ever done.
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Old 28th September 2021, 07:08 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
This is such a sad and easy to avoid mistake. It is perfectly within the regulations to pay oneself for campaign work. They can pay themselves up to as much as their last professional income provided or the office they are seeking to gain.

Political hay can be made for doing so and many avoid it for that reason, but it is not forbidden. It is for the purpose of allowing a regular, working-class person to be able to focus on campaigning against an entrenched incumbent.

The caveat, however, is they can only do so after the filing deadline (varies by state). The earliest deadline is for the primary (primary and general are considered 2 races with separate limits).

Even though that would prevent her from paying herself now, she could have simply paid anyone else on the business's corporate board (also easy to amend) for "consulting services" to then pay those bills.

I have prepared and filed returns for a challenger myself. It really isn't that hard to play games with the numbers to stay inside the letter of the law. If one isn't a complete idiot, that is.
I'm dubious. Reimbursing expenses, yes. The candidate being paid for work, I think not.

Add: I'm wrong.
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-.../personal-use/
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"In an email, her spokesman Ben Stout said the funds in question "were reimbursed months ago when Rep. Boebert self-reported the error."

Is this actually true?
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I'm dubious. Reimbursing expenses, yes. The candidate being paid for work, I think not.

Add: I'm wrong.
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-.../personal-use/
Another dodge would have been claiming use of the business as office/meeting space and paying the business directly for venue rental.
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"In an email, her spokesman Ben Stout said the funds in question "were reimbursed months ago when Rep. Boebert self-reported the error."

Is this actually true?
Not sure, but any time you run afoul of the rules, merely say "we made an error/mistake, here is an amended report showing..." and (other than the reputation hit), no real consequences will occur. It takes a monumentally dumb mistake combined with obstinacy to actually get fined.

Campaign finance regulations really are a big joke.

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I suspect Boebert and MTG of being "sisters by another mother". It would explain a lot.
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Old 28th September 2021, 12:44 PM   #15
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Okay. And? This is the least crazy, stupid, and evil thing this broad has ever done.
Yeah, this is penny ante stuff.
I got a feeling a lot of people in both parties do this kind of thing, but are smart enough not to get caught.
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Okay. And? This is the least crazy, stupid, and evil thing this broad has ever done.
Sometimes I think people like Boebert, Trump, and Margie Green leak these stories just to get the usual suspects all up in froth every damn day. This wears everyone else from discussing the crooks in question and ignoring when the truly vile stuff comes to light.
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Sometimes I think people like Boebert, Trump, and Margie Green leak these stories just to get the usual suspects all up in froth every damn day. This wears everyone else from discussing the crooks in question and ignoring when the truly vile stuff comes to light.
Trolls recognize the value in never having just one horrible thing to focus attention on.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Trolls recognize the value in never having just one horrible thing to focus attention on.
But sometimes trolls like to sink their teeth into one particular thing and shake it until long after it's dead. We've seen that over and over again here.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Trolls recognize the value in never having just one horrible thing to focus attention on.
But sometimes trolls like to sink their teeth into one particular thing and shake it until long after it's dead. We've seen that over and over again here.
What makes you think these two aren't exactly the same thing? If you need as many things to distract with as possible, keeping the old, worn out ones around to chew on is just good sense. Saves the effort of learning about anything new.
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She'd be a good candidate for a conservative leaning third party challenge. She only carried her district by 51ish percent. If the Dems could find a pro-gunish moderate she might be vulnerable in a general election. Stuff like this reinforces polling in her district indicating many voters see her as out of her depths.
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...Stuff like this reinforces polling in her district indicating many voters see her as out of her depths.
Ya think?
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I suspect Boebert and MTG of being "sisters by another mother". It would explain a lot.
The phrases are

Brother from another mother.

And

Sister from another mister.

The more you know *rainbow*

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I suspect Boebert and MTG of being "sisters by another mother". It would explain a lot.
Spiritual daughters of Donald Trump.
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She recently made a distasteful tweet implicating that Joe Biden is a pedophile...

"The Boys & Girls Club was a big part of last night’s Congressional Baseball Game.

So of course Joe Biden showed up."
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Spiritual daughters of Donald Trump.
Knowing Dissolute Donnie, they may be more than just spiritual daughters!
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She recently made a distasteful tweet implicating that Joe Biden is a pedophile...

"The Boys & Girls Club was a big part of last night’s Congressional Baseball Game.

So of course Joe Biden showed up."
Funny considering her idol is being sued by a woman who claims she was raped by Trump and over 20 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

But, hey...when it's all you've got to work with.....
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Ya think?
I live in Maryland. What I think doesn't matter. I live in the Democratic Party house leader's district in one of the bluest states in the Country. I give money to the DNC for these races but they need to engage and the pro America wing of the Republicans need to engage. Independents need to engage. Beobert is vulnerable to a moderate, reasonable on guns Democrat with a conservative leaning third party candidate who can take four percent of the vote.

If anti Trump Republicans don't run in these races and communicate clearly that their party can't win general elections with just the Trump Base, we're all ******.
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Funny considering her idol is being sued by a woman who claims she was raped by Trump and over 20 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.



But, hey...when it's all you've got to work with.....
Her husband exposed himself to 2 women at a bowling alley. She was there at the time and they both got banned, I would guess this indicates her "enthusiastically" taking his side on the matter. This was before their marriage.

So I guess she's consistent?

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Her husband exposed himself to 2 women at a bowling alley. She was there at the time and they both got banned, I would guess this indicates her "enthusiastically" taking his side on the matter. This was before their marriage.

So I guess she's consistent?
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Her husband exposed himself to 2 women at a bowling alley. She was there at the time and they both got banned, I would guess this indicates her "enthusiastically" taking his side on the matter. This was before their marriage.

So I guess she's consistent?
He struck out with most of the ladies, but he was right up her alley. That's just how they roll. What a turkey. Mind in the gutter.
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He struck out with most of the ladies, but he was right up her alley. That's just how they roll. What a turkey. Mind in the gutter.
This is why we can't have nice things.
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This is why we can't have nice things.
You could always split or spare us the dramatics.
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You could always split or spare us the dramatics.
Huh?

ETA: Geez am I dumb.
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