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14th June 2019, 08:59 PM | #121 |
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I noticed that in none of the videos is a single "Nigerian bodyguard" in view. Now, I'm assuming that a Nigerian would be black and I don't think that would be racist any more than assuming a "Japanese bodyguard" would be ethnically Japanese.
Having a personal videographer could be a lesson well learned from dealing with the media: have your own video of any events just in case the media decides to selectively edit something the way they did the "canoodling" in front of the cottage on Nov. 2, 2007. (snip)
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Festival.htm
I suppose the Nigerian bodyguard comment came from the third picture down in this link, but I do not see the relevance of race in the description, and out of interest I do not know how one can tell which African country (of origin possibly , rather than birth) is being represented here. And how can one tell who is paying for this service? I too was rather disturbed by the use of the word "paraphrase" when clearly a misleading impression was created by summarising the CBS item (though I would agree it was a bit snarky). |
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According to Mark Godsey's comment on the Facebook public group website Blind Injustice, the CBS article is not accurate. Godsey, who is attending the Italy Innocence Project Modena Conference as a participant, stated:
"Another example of dishonest reporting. Amanda did not flee the conference traumatized; rather the paparazzi were so obnoxious that she took another seat outside of public gaze so the camera clicks would not distract from the speakers on stage. She then spoke with power and grace. This story is more made-up ******** to get a headline and profit from dishonesty." |
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People on this thread spew hatred at someone, and supports a web-presence that utters threats against that same person.
So - that person has the absolute gall to cooperate with security personnel, for both her own safety as well as the safety of others. Then - the hate spewers criticize that person for it, and its need. |
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Amanda Knox crushes Kate Middleton in the Daily Mail comment section. Vixen and her ilk must be glued to updates coming out of Italy
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15th June 2019, 07:41 AM | #128 |
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I don't think that this has been made up by Nadeau. It obviously comes from one of Meredith's parents and I don't think it would be Arlene. The quote “One has to wonder why she is doing this, why we have to go through all this again” is non-specific so it may be that it is an old quote that has been recycled. Amanda is not putting the Kercher family through anything in Modena, to claim that she is is simply not true.
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"Amanda Knox, Tearful and Angry, Speaks in Italy, Years After Murder Acquittal
Ms. Knox had been introduced by Guido Sola, a lawyer and one of the conference organizers, as an example of someone facing trial by news media, a victim of a “mass media lynching” whose guilt had been decided in the court of public opinion long before she appeared in an actual courtroom. Her trial was a perfect case study for the conference. She had been accused with her Italian boyfriend at the time, Raffaele Sollecito, and an Ivorian-born acquaintance, Rudy Guede, of murdering Ms. Kercher on Nov. 1, 2007. The case ping-ponged around various Italian courts for years, until the country’s highest court definitively acquitted Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito in 2015. Mr. Guede is still serving a 16-year sentence." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/w...TPnXR8dpgCXZP4 |
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With the standing O at the Modena conference, and with videographers documenting the media frenzy - thus proving Knox's claim - it's time to acknowledge that....
..... the time only hoped for following AK's and RS's release 7 1/2 years ago has arrived. No matter that even CBS News still propagated the meme of "Knox as a monster", she wowed the innocence conference - even the person speaking after her acknowledged that she was a tough act to follow; except his own story of wrongful conviction was, in the end, just as poignant. Just not as well known. But that time many hoped for has arrived. In spades. Was it hard to speak in that room? Was it hard to be assaulted by paparazzi? Of course. Now even that harassment is on tape, proving theme theme of the conference. But now, onwards and upwards. |
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This article originating from AFP appears to more effectively detail Amanda's speech than the one from the NY Times:
https://news.yahoo.com/back-italy-kn...002555673.html This excerpt, for example: ""Some have even suggested that by being here I am once again traumatising the Kercher family and profaning Meredith's memory," she went on. "They are wrong," she insisted. "The fact I continue to be held responsible for the Kerchers' pain shows how powerful false narratives can be and how they can undermine justice, especially when reinforced and amplified by the media," said Knox." |
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Lol! You just this minute completely misrepresented a press scrum, saying that they were only innocuous people.
So it's ok for you to disseminate fake stuff, but not others? That's good to know, you claim you have a "get out of lies free" card! You have no idea what you're doing, do you? |
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Vix just lies and lies and lies. About videos anyone can watch and see how she's lying...all the "body guards" were doing was simply keeping the (pretty obnoxious) press people from making any actual physical contact with Knox. That's what they're trained to do, Vixy. Nobody was "pushed out of the way" for trying to take mere pictures.
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It's so pointless. How does one think this advances their point of view?
Makes me miss the other guilter-nutters. For most, the deception wasn't always obvious. What does it gain someone to post a picture of a window with bars on it, and claim it doesn't have bars on it? Why do that? Why show a video of a mobile-press-scrum where camera-persons and those with microphones are jockeying for position - to get an elusive sound byte, and then make it seem like an entourage was knocking over old ladies and pregnant women in the street? Why call media, the very subject of this innocence conference (!!!) "innocuous"? It doesn't make sense. It doesn't advance Vixen's cause. I'll leave it up to lurker-readers how to characterize this "own goal" on Vixen's part. Vixen could have chosen to post that video WITHOUT the misleading comment. Why damage your own point of view that way? It's baffling. But it is directly applicable to Knox's speech to the conference. |
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Just as I suspected; you have totally misrepresented (to put it generously) the situation. This is why no one believes anything you say without you providing a citation. Even then, more often than not, it actually proves you wrong. You'd think you'd learn...
1. The bodyguards are black but there is no indication that they are from "Nigeria". 2. They are obviously bodyguards but there is no indication they were "hired" by Knox. They could well be Italians assigned to her by the police or the conference. 3. There is nothing in that video showing Chris R. 'launch(ing) himself at the journalists". It does show him walking alongside Amanda, then walking ahead to block a photo with some kind of folder in his hand. He never touched any of the journalists. Your lying about this video just me! |
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[quote=Bill Williams;12727286]Lol! You just this minute completely misrepresented a press scrum, saying that they were only innocuous people.
So it's ok for you to disseminate fake stuff, but not others? That's good to know, you claim you have a "get out of lies free" card! You have no idea what you're doing, do you?[/QUOTE] Oh, I think she knows exactly what she's doing. But so do we. |
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Be prepared for the claim that Mignini never said Satanism was involved. I suggest having his actual statement ready to go.
ETA: Come to think of it, that probably would be a waste of time. Quoting the acquittal on the money and cc card theft charges from the MR didn't help a certain PGP from claiming they had been "dismissed". |
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Then it's a gross distortion at best, and a flat-out lie at worst. Simple as that. Tell us, Vixen: why do you appear so very committed to spinning every single thing into a demonisation of Knox (or of people connected to her)? See, we deal with objective critical thinking in these threads...... |
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Hahaha I see that clown "KrissyG" has just put up another toxic post on TJMK about Knox's Modena conference speech (It's all you'd expect).
The same individual also posted a truly hilarious (and hugely ironic) comment below the preceding article, berating Knox for "throwing.... Guede under the bus": in her speech, Knox talked about Guede being the one who had actually assaulted and killed Kercher. Wow. This "KrissyG" figure truly is astonishingly deluded and incapable of any logical, objective analysis. |
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But you certainly implied it:
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Knox's every move was being video recorded. If a video of Robinson shoving anyone or of any semi-brawl (LOL!) existed, it would have been posted online. And certainly TJMK would have it. They'd be beside themselves with glee! Care to link us to it? What? No? |
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When then in the name of all that is sane did you post THAT video, along with the claim that the "Knox posse" had pushed its way through an innocuous crowd of people? BTW I as told by an insider that TJMK is a false flag operation designed to purposely discredit people who believe in guilt.
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I loved the post from a few days ago from someone who'd lost track of this discussion, and couldn't believe it was still going.
He said something akin to knowing something was wrong when some people debated distinctions between "Satanism" and "Samhainic festivals," to prove that Mignini had not been insane as a prosecutor for entertaining either of them. |
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You have to wonder why anyone would spend so much of their time writing such lengthy hate-filled rants. Spewing so much hatred must be emotionally exhausting...or fulfilling. Sad either way.
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"She remembered Perugia prosecutor Giuliano Mignini as “a nightmare figure, a monster whose only goal was to destroy me for no reason,” Reuters reported, but had come to see that he had sought justice for Kercher.
“One day I’d like to meet the real Mignini,” she said, according to the AP. “And I hope that when he comes, he will also see that I am not a monster, I simply am Amanda.” Knox received a standing ovation." Source: https://www.pressherald.com/2019/06/...l-prosecution/ ___ I like Amanda's mention of a real Mignini. It makes me think that once-upon-a-time there was a real Mignini, a kindly public servant who sought to pursue justice. But that real Mignini was abducted by Satanists, who substituted a look-alike. That substitute replaced the real Mignini as an Italian prosecutor since at least the latter part of the Monster of Florence case, an imposter Mignini who shamelessly violated Italian and international laws, a fake Mignini who persecuted many in his demented accusations and prosecutions and followed that with his wrongful prosecutions of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito. |
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This Krissy G needs to get her facts straight. She wrote in the comments section on TJMK:
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