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Is this a case of mass hysteria?
https://youtu.be/1U9Oo6zF5Vs
I'm not a fan of the paranormal but ghost stories like this one intrigue me. Its one thing for one person to see a ghost but an entire crew of a submarine? |
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It's not a true story.
According to researchers George Behe and Michael Goss, the stories about hauntings from UB-65 were invented by the journalist Hector Charles Bywater, who wrote about the subject. They speculated that Bywater was a good story teller who had invented some of his references, such as a post-war pamphlet written by a "Dr. Hecht". Behe and Goss concluded that "Official documents make it extremely difficult to believe that UB-65 was haunted... The responsibility for that rumour-like legend in all its dramatic detail cannot be traced back with any certainty before Hector C. Bywater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_UB-65 |
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Was the account of the haunting from the crew or just made up by the first journalist known to have mentioned a ghost aboard the U-Boat, Hector C. Bywater, whose account cites at least some imaginary sources?
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The ocean's full of ghosts. When a submarine passes through some haunted water, the ocean ghosts just stay in the same place, passing through the hull like the incorporeal spirits they are. That means they're quickly left behind, so most of the time they're not even noticed by the crew. But once in a while s a hysterical crew of a slow-moving sub will spot one.
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Carbon dioxide or monoxide poisoning can also create confusion, hallucinations and distorted memory. It's more usual for the monoxide one, because high levels of CO2 can be downright painful, so you tend to notice. But still they can bring you to downright borderline OOB experiences.
So I wouldn't find it particularly unbelievable if some sub had to stay under way past what it had air for, and the crew started experiencing weird stuff. Or a particularly damaged diesel engine COULD theoretically leak carbon monoxide if you're running it at snorkel depth. In this case, though, it's just sensationalist fiction. |
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CO2 can also trigger anxiety attacks and hallucinations (especially the auditory kind) in people with schizophrenia. In fact, past a point they trigger both quite reliably. Though I would find it extremely unlikely that a whole submarine were crewed with schizophrenics, unless it's a part of some twisted experiment.
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The Curse of the Submarine crew's ghost.
Was the Ghost that the crew saw cursed? Or was the submarine's crew cursed? Or was the ghost of the submarine's crew cursed? |
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Nice ref.
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Yep, that's what I based it on.
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There is an RC-135V that's nicknamed "Damien" by many aircrews because it seems to have a mind of its own. It's a simple matter of establishing a reputation and assigning everything that goes wrong to the curse/ghost/gremlins.
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