Democrats: CIA is out to get us

Texas · 12th May 2009, 07:03 PM

This one is not going to end well for the Democrats.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22439.html

Quote:

Democrats charged Tuesday that the CIA has released documents about congressional briefings on harsh interrogation techniques in order to deflect attention and blame away from itself.

“I think there is so much embarrassment in some quarters [of the CIA] that people are going to try to shift some of the responsibility to others — that’s what I think,” said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), who sat on the Senate Intelligence Committee and was briefed on interrogation techniques five times between 2006 and 2007.

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said he finds it “interesting” that a document detailing congressional briefings was released just as “some of the groups that have been responsible for these interrogation techniques were taking the most criticism.”

Asked whether the CIA was seeking political cover by releasing the documents, Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said: “Sure it is.”

WildCat · 12th May 2009, 07:41 PM

So the Dems are upset that this gets released right after they pressure Obama to criminally prosecute them?

It sucks when the designated scapegoat doesn't lie down for the slaughter.

Dipsticks. <---- euphemism for word I can't say here.

Texas · 12th May 2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

So the Dems are upset that this gets released right after they pressure Obama to criminally prosecute them?

It sucks when the designated scapegoat doesn't lie down for the slaughter.

Dipsticks. <---- euphemism for word I can't say here.

it's especially delisious coming from "Leaky" Leahy.

http://mensnewsdaily.com/newswax/200...nterrogations/

Quote:

Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy last Wednesday warned Senate Republicans that if they do not back an independent commission to investigate George W. Bush Administration’s detainee interrogation program, he will launch his own committee investigation.

“If we can’t get a bipartisan commission to do this then we’ll do it in the usual way,” said Leahy, who is affectionately known in Washington as “Leaky” Leahy because of his propensity for leaking secret information to the news media.

Leahy’s habit of leaking secrets for his own political agenda caused his removal from his vice-chairmanship of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

corplinx · 12th May 2009, 08:36 PM

It's the AIG bonuses all over again.

applecorped · 12th May 2009, 08:50 PM

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but some animals are more equal than others.

jj · 13th May 2009, 04:14 AM

So, CIA plays dirty, and Demorats aren't allowed to object, according to the insanely right wing?

Figures.

WildCat · 13th May 2009, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by jj

So, CIA plays dirty, and Demorats aren't allowed to object, according to the insanely right wing?

Figures.

No, it's more like "CIA plays dirty, with the apporoval of top Dems. Then when the political winds change the Dems want to prosecute everyone but themselves".

If Bush Admin. officials and CIA officials should be prosecuted, so should Pelosi and Jay Rockefeller.

KoihimeNakamura · 13th May 2009, 05:38 AM

You sure you can read all that in? Seriously, I think there's probably room to say both parties here are at blame..

ponderingturtle · 13th May 2009, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Rika

You sure you can read all that in? Seriously, I think there's probably room to say both parties here are at blame..

That is just silly. Only one party can ever be to blame.

Of course I am not sure what they should have done at the time, the only moral thing for them would have been to leak this at the time they first heard it, it seems. To torture people is fine, the true moral burden lies with those who hear about it, not those who do it.

shecky · 13th May 2009, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Texas

This one is not going to end well for the Democrats.

If this plays out, it's not going to end well for a few people. Let the chips fall where they may. If the prospect of some Dems going down will get the wingnuts on board, all the better.

12th May 2009, 07:03 PM	#1
Texas Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,847	Democrats: CIA is out to get us This one is not going to end well for the Democrats. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22439.html Quote: Democrats charged Tuesday that the CIA has released documents about congressional briefings on harsh interrogation techniques in order to deflect attention and blame away from itself. “I think there is so much embarrassment in some quarters [of the CIA] that people are going to try to shift some of the responsibility to others — that’s what I think,” said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), who sat on the Senate Intelligence Committee and was briefed on interrogation techniques five times between 2006 and 2007. Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said he finds it “interesting” that a document detailing congressional briefings was released just as “some of the groups that have been responsible for these interrogation techniques were taking the most criticism.” Asked whether the CIA was seeking political cover by releasing the documents, Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said: “Sure it is.”
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12th May 2009, 08:06 PM	#3
Texas Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,847	Originally Posted by WildCat So the Dems are upset that this gets released right after they pressure Obama to criminally prosecute them? It sucks when the designated scapegoat doesn't lie down for the slaughter. Dipsticks. <---- euphemism for word I can't say here. it's especially delisious coming from "Leaky" Leahy. http://mensnewsdaily.com/newswax/200...nterrogations/ Quote: Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy last Wednesday warned Senate Republicans that if they do not back an independent commission to investigate George W. Bush Administration’s detainee interrogation program, he will launch his own committee investigation. “If we can’t get a bipartisan commission to do this then we’ll do it in the usual way,” said Leahy, who is affectionately known in Washington as “Leaky” Leahy because of his propensity for leaking secret information to the news media. Leahy’s habit of leaking secrets for his own political agenda caused his removal from his vice-chairmanship of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
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WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 59,856	So the Dems are upset that this gets released right after they pressure Obama to criminally prosecute them? It sucks when the designated scapegoat doesn't lie down for the slaughter. Dipsticks. <---- euphemism for word I can't say here.

13th May 2009, 05:27 AM	#7
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 59,856	Originally Posted by jj So, CIA plays dirty, and Demorats aren't allowed to object, according to the insanely right wing? Figures. No, it's more like "CIA plays dirty, with the apporoval of top Dems. Then when the political winds change the Dems want to prosecute everyone but themselves". If Bush Admin. officials and CIA officials should be prosecuted, so should Pelosi and Jay Rockefeller.

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ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,761	Originally Posted by Rika You sure you can read all that in? Seriously, I think there's probably room to say both parties here are at blame.. That is just silly. Only one party can ever be to blame. Of course I am not sure what they should have done at the time, the only moral thing for them would have been to leak this at the time they first heard it, it seems. To torture people is fine, the true moral burden lies with those who hear about it, not those who do it.
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13th May 2009, 08:55 AM	#10
shecky Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,192	Originally Posted by Texas This one is not going to end well for the Democrats. If this plays out, it's not going to end well for a few people. Let the chips fall where they may. If the prospect of some Dems going down will get the wingnuts on board, all the better.
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