Obama Changing the Democratic Party

Tsukasa Buddha · 5th June 2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and the Obama for America Campaign today announced that the DNC will no longer accept Washington lobbyist donations, making the same commitment as Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

"The DNC and the Obama Campaign are unified and working together to elect Barack Obama as the next president of the United States. Our presumptive nominee has pledged not to take donations from Washington lobbyists and from today going forward the DNC makes that pledge as well," said Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean. "Senator Obama has promised to change the way things are done in Washington and this step is a sure sign of his commitment. The American people's priorities will set the agenda in an Obama Administration, not the special interests."

Linky.

Woot!

Pookster · 5th June 2008, 01:13 PM

Neither Obama or the DNC really needs the lobbyists donations. McCain will still be way behind in fund raising when this is all over with.

Darth Rotor · 5th June 2008, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha

Linky.

Woot!

I promise to stop aiming nuclear weapons at Lichtenstein.

Does that not give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside?

DR

daredelvis · 5th June 2008, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

I promise to stop aiming nuclear weapons at Lichtenstein.

Does that not give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside?

DR

Dang! I promised to give up lutefisk until you stopped aiming your nuclear weapons at Lichtenstein.

Daredelvis

dudalb · 5th June 2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Pookster

Neither Obama or the DNC really needs the lobbyists donations. McCain will still be way behind in fund raising when this is all over with.

What Obama and the DNC will do is set up " Indepedent Poltical Action Commities" to accept the dough.
And note that they said nothing about prohibiting Demoractic congresspeople from accepting donations from poltical lobbiests. And the congress is what counts in this game.
More nice sounding but meaningless poltical crap.
But the young and nieve Obama supporters act like it is the second coming.

Jimbo07 · 5th June 2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

More nice sounding but meaningless poltical crap.

Possibly, but this is the sort of thing I was bringing up in my leadership thread...

What would you expect McCain (or whomever) to actually do differently?

gdnp · 5th June 2008, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo07

What would you expect McCain (or whomever) to actually do differently?

(sounds of crickets chirping....)

Sefarst · 5th June 2008, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo07

Possibly, but this is the sort of thing I was bringing up in my leadership thread...

What would you expect McCain (or whomever) to actually do differently?

Differently from the DNC?

I LOLed at this thread. I would like to make a promise as well. From this day forward I, Sefarst, pledge to stop getting to work by horse-drawn buggy. Can I get a "woot!" too, Tsukasa Buddha? Afterall, we can't have all that manure in the streets...

Darth Rotor · 5th June 2008, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sefarst

Afterall, we can't have all that manure in the streets...

Yeah, keep it where it belongs, in the JREF politics forum.

Jimbo07 · 5th June 2008, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sefarst

Differently from the DNC?

I LOLed at this thread. I would like to make a promise as well. From this day forward I, Sefarst, pledge to stop getting to work by horse-drawn buggy. Can I get a "woot!" too, Tsukasa Buddha? Afterall, we can't have all that manure in the streets...

Right. But as a non-American, non-Dem, non-Rep, I can't see any reason to say that it's manure, beyond typical political cynicism. What are the other candidates saying (and especially doing) that is any better than manure?

Sefarst · 5th June 2008, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo07

Right. But as a non-American, non-Dem, non-Rep, I can't see any reason to say that it's manure, beyond typical political cynicism. What are the other candidates saying (and especially doing) that is any better than manure?

It's campaign season. 90% of everything said is total manure. Obama pledges not to take donations from Washington lobbyists to woo the naive bumper-sticker thinkers into thinking that he's rising above the political fray. McCain says he supports a suspension of the gas tax against the obvious knowledge of economists in the hopes of wooing those ignorant about basic economics.

Depending on where the candidates are, they'll promise anything to anyone. Hillary Clinton went to Puerto Rico and tried to fill their heads with anything she thought they might like, such as statehood. Obama goes to places where NAFTA is unpopular and trashes it, then goes to places where it is popular and is silent on the subject. McCain tries to court the evangelicals after having a long history of butting heads with them. Welcome to the American presidential elections. Round 1 just ended, please return to your seats for the rest of the show.

Jimbo07 · 5th June 2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Sefarst

It's campaign season. 90% of everything said is total manure.

I agree. This is a result of either direct lying, or a realization after the fact that realpolitik resists said solution.

However, by singling out the DNC, I thought you were making a biased assertion.

Just good ol' cynicism, then?

5th June 2008, 01:09 PM	#1
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5th June 2008, 01:22 PM	#3
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38,527	Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha Linky. Woot! I promise to stop aiming nuclear weapons at Lichtenstein. Does that not give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside? DR
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5th June 2008, 03:09 PM	#6
Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,685	Originally Posted by dudalb More nice sounding but meaningless poltical crap. Possibly, but this is the sort of thing I was bringing up in my leadership thread... What would you expect McCain (or whomever) to actually do differently?
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5th June 2008, 03:15 PM	#7
gdnp Guest Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,998	Originally Posted by Jimbo07 What would you expect McCain (or whomever) to actually do differently? (sounds of crickets chirping....)
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5th June 2008, 03:46 PM	#8
Sefarst Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,237	Originally Posted by Jimbo07 Possibly, but this is the sort of thing I was bringing up in my leadership thread... What would you expect McCain (or whomever) to actually do differently? Differently from the DNC? I LOLed at this thread. I would like to make a promise as well. From this day forward I, Sefarst, pledge to stop getting to work by horse-drawn buggy. Can I get a "woot!" too, Tsukasa Buddha? Afterall, we can't have all that manure in the streets...
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5th June 2008, 01:13 PM	#2
Pookster Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,786	Neither Obama or the DNC really needs the lobbyists donations. McCain will still be way behind in fund raising when this is all over with.

5th June 2008, 02:54 PM	#4
daredelvis Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,217	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor I promise to stop aiming nuclear weapons at Lichtenstein. Does that not give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside? DR Dang! I promised to give up lutefisk until you stopped aiming your nuclear weapons at Lichtenstein. Daredelvis

5th June 2008, 03:04 PM	#5
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,618	Originally Posted by Pookster Neither Obama or the DNC really needs the lobbyists donations. McCain will still be way behind in fund raising when this is all over with. What Obama and the DNC will do is set up " Indepedent Poltical Action Commities" to accept the dough. And note that they said nothing about prohibiting Demoractic congresspeople from accepting donations from poltical lobbiests. And the congress is what counts in this game. More nice sounding but meaningless poltical crap. But the young and nieve Obama supporters act like it is the second coming.

5th June 2008, 03:49 PM	#9
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38,527	Originally Posted by Sefarst Afterall, we can't have all that manure in the streets... Yeah, keep it where it belongs, in the JREF politics forum.
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis

5th June 2008, 04:00 PM	#10
Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,685	Originally Posted by Sefarst Differently from the DNC? I LOLed at this thread. I would like to make a promise as well. From this day forward I, Sefarst, pledge to stop getting to work by horse-drawn buggy. Can I get a "woot!" too, Tsukasa Buddha? Afterall, we can't have all that manure in the streets... Right. But as a non-American, non-Dem, non-Rep, I can't see any reason to say that it's manure, beyond typical political cynicism. What are the other candidates saying (and especially doing) that is any better than manure?
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5th June 2008, 05:06 PM	#11
Sefarst Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,237	Originally Posted by Jimbo07 Right. But as a non-American, non-Dem, non-Rep, I can't see any reason to say that it's manure, beyond typical political cynicism. What are the other candidates saying (and especially doing) that is any better than manure? It's campaign season. 90% of everything said is total manure. Obama pledges not to take donations from Washington lobbyists to woo the naive bumper-sticker thinkers into thinking that he's rising above the political fray. McCain says he supports a suspension of the gas tax against the obvious knowledge of economists in the hopes of wooing those ignorant about basic economics. Depending on where the candidates are, they'll promise anything to anyone. Hillary Clinton went to Puerto Rico and tried to fill their heads with anything she thought they might like, such as statehood. Obama goes to places where NAFTA is unpopular and trashes it, then goes to places where it is popular and is silent on the subject. McCain tries to court the evangelicals after having a long history of butting heads with them. Welcome to the American presidential elections. Round 1 just ended, please return to your seats for the rest of the show.
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5th June 2008, 08:13 PM	#12
Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,685	Originally Posted by Sefarst It's campaign season. 90% of everything said is total manure. I agree. This is a result of either direct lying, or a realization after the fact that realpolitik resists said solution. However, by singling out the DNC, I thought you were making a biased assertion. Just good ol' cynicism, then?
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