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Old 2nd March 2020, 11:14 PM   #3961
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
It's nasty, but not necessarily a conspiracy if you go on the assumption that they really prefer Biden to Bernie. It's of course quite possible that they're engaging in nefarious strategy to undercut Bernie, and that's likely to be the effect, but if they actually want Biden to be nominated you can hardly expect them to play along as if they didn't.

I like Bernie, and I think he'd make a pretty good president, but he is running for a party nomination in a party that he hasn't actually joined. While I'd like to see the organization take him in and treat him better, I can't entirely fault them for being biased toward those who have belonged to it, and served it, for a long time.

With that said, I think the idea of "electability" is a poor one. It's anybody's guess, and it's often guessed wrong, and the people whose supposedly electable candidate loses the nomination tend to flounce. The party should nominate whoever best represents the party and its members, and then make them as electable as possible by doing the work.

That's actually consistent with what I said; I never claimed it was conspiratorial.

I do strongly agree with your comments on electability.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 11:17 PM   #3962
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One reason is to avoid the humiliation of coming in fourth, fifth or sixth and and having to acknowledge "I guess nobody loves me." It's also possible that they sincerely believe it will be easier for Trump to beat Sanders than Biden, and wanted to help Biden -- which is not the same as sabotaging Sanders.

Maybe, but it seems to me like "saving face" is a very weak reason to just forfeit the millions of dollars invested in the campaign without even seeing what returns you might get on Super Tuesday.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 12:49 AM   #3963
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I can! They are indeed conspiring...but not for politics. They're in love! It's a secret, forbidden romance. Him, the hitherto Official First Gay Candidate, it would devastate the public to learn he fell for a woman. Her, the Abusive Boss, it would shock the people to learn she possesses the tender emotions. It was unexpected but so profound, the way their eyes locked across the debating arena, his dollar-sign-shaped pro-capitalist pupils and her basilisk unjust-prosecution glare, and just like that in an instant it was True Love! They agreed to throw away their candidacies because neither could bear the thought of defeating the other, of perhaps winning office and being thus forever set out of reach of the beloved...they've snuck away in secret to indulge in the carnal, bestial lusts in a seedy motel room, their forms locked together in unthinkable passion!

Either that, or Bloomberg just bought them off.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 01:00 AM   #3964
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Maybe, but it seems to me like "saving face" is a very weak reason to just forfeit the millions of dollars invested in the campaign without even seeing what returns you might get on Super Tuesday.
For Mayor Pete, I've read that he spent the overwhelming portion of those millions on Iowa and New Hampshire. Not really so much left for the many and larger states of Super Tuesday.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 01:13 AM   #3965
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Maybe, but it seems to me like "saving face" is a very weak reason to just forfeit the millions of dollars invested in the campaign without even seeing what returns you might get on Super Tuesday.
Considering the runaway results for Biden from South Carolina, and the fact that a fair number of the Super Tuesday states also have fairly high African American demographic stats, it's difficult to imagine that either Buttigieg or Klobuchar could realistically have expected to gain enough delegates each to have actually mattered toward a result. To me it makes far more sense for the Democratic party as a whole to reduce the dilution in this big chunk of voting and see what the voters go for between the main likely contenders.

Personally I really liked Buttigieg. I hope he runs again in years to come.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 01:54 AM   #3966
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For Mayor Pete, I've read that he spent the overwhelming portion of those millions on Iowa and New Hampshire. Not really so much left for the many and larger states of Super Tuesday.

If Super Tuesday was still a ways away I could see your point. However, it was tomorrow at the time he dropped out. It don't cost nothin' to just wait and see how tomorrow goes.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 02:26 AM   #3967
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We seem to be covering Corvid pretty well here in the thread.

In the meantime, how is that "historic" deal that the Great Dealmaker-in-Chief made with the Taliban actually working out?
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Old 3rd March 2020, 03:27 AM   #3968
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The Democrats in the House should propose a very simple one year Payroll Tax cut. Great for the middle class, great for the USA!

WOW! Sleepy Joe doesn’t know where he is, or what he’s doing. Honestly, I don’t think he even knows what office he's running for!
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Old 3rd March 2020, 03:39 AM   #3969
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We seem to be covering Corvid pretty well here in the thread.

In the meantime, how is that "historic" deal that the Great Dealmaker-in-Chief made with the Taliban actually working out?
Already broken, I think?

ETA: Yup.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 03:44 AM   #3971
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Australia’s Central Bank cut interest rates and stated it will most likely further ease in order to make up for China’s Coronavirus situation and slowdown. They reduced to 0.5%, a record low. Other countries are doing the same thing, if not more so. Our Federal Reserve has us....

....paying higher rates than many others, when we should be paying less. Tough on our exporters and puts the USA at a competitive disadvantage. Must be the other way around. Should ease and cut rate big. Jerome Powell led Federal Reserve has called it wrong from day one. Sad!
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Old 3rd March 2020, 05:51 AM   #3972
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Australia’s Central Bank cut interest rates and stated it will most likely further ease in order to make up for China’s Coronavirus situation and slowdown. They reduced to 0.5%, a record low. Other countries are doing the same thing, if not more so. Our Federal Reserve has us....

....paying higher rates than many others, when we should be paying less. Tough on our exporters and puts the USA at a competitive disadvantage. Must be the other way around. Should ease and cut rate big. Jerome Powell led Federal Reserve has called it wrong from day one. Sad!
"Other countries" have different ways to address health care and gun control issues too; but god forbid we should ever even consider another country's approach to those issues as a possible model for ours. "Hell no! We're Amurrica, dammit! We're special!"

Trump may have a point here, I don't know enough about economics to say one way or the other. But it seems a little uneven (to say the least) to use what works for other countries as an argument for one special case and then argue that the same reasoning can't apply in another.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 06:15 AM   #3973
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Trump Tweets ...Should ease and cut rate big. Jerome Powell led Federal Reserve has called it wrong from day one. Sad!
Based on his track record, Donald Trump is the absolute last person I want to take financial advice from. From Market Watch's Tim Mullaney:
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Twenty years from now high school kids are going to be asking their history teachers, "How could anyone have supported this man?"

Answer: "It's complicated."
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Old 3rd March 2020, 06:26 AM   #3974
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Based on his track record, Donald Trump is the absolute last person I want to take financial advice from. From Market Watch's Tim Mullaney:


Twenty years from now high school kids are going to be asking their history teachers, "How could anyone have supported this man?"

Answer: "It's complicated."
Nah the answer will be: We don't talk about that.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 07:16 AM   #3975
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"Other countries" have different ways to address health care and gun control issues too; but god forbid we should ever even consider another country's approach to those issues as a possible model for ours. "Hell no! We're Amurrica, dammit! We're special!"

Trump may have a point here, I don't know enough about economics to say one way or the other. But it seems a little uneven (to say the least) to use what works for other countries as an argument for one special case and then argue that the same reasoning can't apply in another.


It's interesting to note that "Lower the interest rates!" is his solution to every problem. Has he ever mentioned raising them, under any circumstances?
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Old 3rd March 2020, 07:25 AM   #3976
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It's interesting to note that "Lower the interest rates!" is his solution to every problem. Has he ever mentioned raising them, under any circumstances?
Personally, I distrust anyone who wants to lower interest rates. It means they're a borrower, and greedy as well. People who manage their money properly don't need to borrow. They lend, and want high interest rates to do so, as is only fair.

People clamoring for low interest rates are pretty much level with people clamoring for low priced heroin. Their desire to indulge in bad practices doesn't need to be indulged at the expense of everyone else.
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Personally, I distrust anyone who wants to lower interest rates. It means they're a borrower, and greedy as well. People who manage their money properly don't need to borrow. They lend, and want high interest rates to do so, as is only fair.

People clamoring for low interest rates are pretty much level with people clamoring for low priced heroin. Their desire to indulge in bad practices doesn't need to be indulged at the expense of everyone else.
What is wrong with saddling future generations with mountains of debt to pay for my heroin!?
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
It's interesting to note that "Lower the interest rates!" is his solution to every problem. Has he ever mentioned raising them, under any circumstances?

There's now been an emergency rate cut, but I'm sure he'll say it isn't enough.
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I suspect he'll just see it as people leaping to answer his every whim, because he now sits in the big boy chair.
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I suspect he'll just see it as people leaping to answer his every whim, because he now sits in the big boy chair.
He's see it that way because he's right, that's the government he's created.

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Old 3rd March 2020, 08:57 AM   #3981
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The Federal Reserve is cutting but must further ease and, most importantly, come into line with other countries/competitors. We are not playing on a level field. Not fair to USA. It is finally time for the Federal Reserve to LEAD. More easing and cutting!
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It's interesting to note that "Lower the interest rates!" is his solution to every problem.
Now that's not fair. Cutting interest rates isn't his only solution. He also wants more tax cuts.
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Australia’s Central Bank cut interest rates and stated it will most likely further ease in order to make up for China’s Coronavirus situation and slowdown. ...Our Federal Reserve has us....

....paying higher rates than many others, when we should be paying less. ...Should ease and cut rate big.
Trump may have a point here, I don't know enough about economics to say one way or the other.
No, no he doesn't.

There are a number of factors that go into determining interest rates, most of them domestic. The fed wants to keep the economy strong, but without overheating, and they also want to keep inflation low. And, they also need to leave enough flexibility to handle problems that may come in the future.

If Trump had his way and the fed cut rates, it might boost the economy, but:

- the economy is already over-stimulated, thanks to huge republican-inspired deficits. Stimulating it more could lead to a bubble, followed by a huge crash

- It would leave the government with little to do when the inevitable recession DOES hit. The idea is that when the economy slows down, you want to cut interest rates to help get it started again. If interest rates are slashed NOW (when the economy is still growing) they won't have the ability to cut later when real problems start to occur.
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Economics on the scale of an entire national economy is so complicated that even a smart President with a strong background in economics would still need several really good economist of various disciplines in their administration to make sound economic decisions.

There's... plenty of places where Trump's insane delusion where he's the best at everything makes thing worse, but this is one of the biggest.
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There's now been an emergency rate cut, but I'm sure he'll say it isn't enough.
"the fundamentals of the US economy remain strong"



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No, no he doesn't.

There are a number of factors that go into determining interest rates, most of them domestic. The fed wants to keep the economy strong, but without overheating, and they also want to keep inflation low. And, they also need to leave enough flexibility to handle problems that may come in the future.

If Trump had his way and the fed cut rates, it might boost the economy, but:

- the economy is already over-stimulated, thanks to huge republican-inspired deficits. Stimulating it more could lead to a bubble, followed by a huge crash

- It would leave the government with little to do when the inevitable recession DOES hit. The idea is that when the economy slows down, you want to cut interest rates to help get it started again. If interest rates are slashed NOW (when the economy is still growing) they won't have the ability to cut later when real problems start to occur.
There's also the lessons learned through the late 80s/90s. If you slash too deep or too rapidly, people think "oh my god it must be really bad" and what was intended as encouragement backfires.
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Economics on the scale of an entire national economy is so complicated that even a smart President with a strong background in economics would still need several really good economist of various disciplines in their administration to make sound economic decisions.

There's... plenty of places where Trump's insane delusion where he's the best at everything makes thing worse, but this is one of the biggest.
He likely has massive debt tied to the prime rate.
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He likely has massive debt tied to the prime rate.
How can that be? He put all his wealth into a blind trust! We saw the stack of papers!
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There's now been an emergency rate cut, but I'm sure he'll say it isn't enough.
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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The Federal Reserve is cutting but must further ease and, most importantly, come into line with other countries/competitors. We are not playing on a level field. Not fair to USA. It is finally time for the Federal Reserve to LEAD. More easing and cutting!



Armitage72 called it! Less than an hour.
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Market dropped 700 Points despite the rate cut.
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Market dropped 700 Points despite the rate cut.
Because the market loves it when you add unpredictibility to an already unpredictible situation.
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So has anyone else heard the theory that sometime between now and the election, probably July 16th to really step on the toes of whoever the Democratic Nominee is gonna be, Trump is going to annouce he's dumping Pence and running with Nikki Haley in 2020?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/polit...-vp/index.html
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Defense Secretary Warns Commanders Not to Surprise Trump on Coronavirus

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Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper has urged American military commanders overseas not to make any decisions related to the coronavirus that might surprise the White House or run afoul of President Trump’s messaging on the growing health challenge, American officials said.
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In response, Mr. Esper said he wanted advance notice before General Abrams or any other commander made decisions related to protecting their troops.
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Trump regrets that they have but one life each to give for his reelection.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
So has anyone else heard the theory that sometime between now and the election, probably July 16th to really step on the toes of whoever the Democratic Nominee is gonna be, Trump is going to annouce he's dumping Pence and running with Nikki Haley in 2020?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/polit...-vp/index.html
Having put Pence in the coronavirus crosshairs, The PDJT has a built-in excuse for deciding to go with someone else if he so chooses. Pence knows he's in a no-win situation.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 04:05 PM   #3997
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
So has anyone else heard the theory that sometime between now and the election, probably July 16th to really step on the toes of whoever the Democratic Nominee is gonna be, Trump is going to annouce he's dumping Pence and running with Nikki Haley in 2020?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/polit...-vp/index.html
Actually , the theory that Pence is being set up to be the fall guy /scape goat for the corona virus is pretty commonplace for over a week now.
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I am calling on Congress to send me a Bill that fully and permanently funds the LWCF and restores our National Parks. When I sign it into law, it will be HISTORIC for our beautiful public lands. ALL thanks to @SenCoryGardner and @SteveDaines, two GREAT Conservative Leaders!

I commend the hard work of Senator @SteveDaines and @SenCoryGardner in protecting funding for the Land and Water Conservation Fund for years to come. The citizens of Montana and Colorado thank you both!

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The biggest loser tonight, by far, is Mini Mike Bloomberg. His “political” consultants took him for a ride. $700 million washed down the drain, and he got nothing for it but the nickname Mini Mike, and the complete destruction of his reputation. Way to go Mike!

Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren, other than Mini Mike, was the loser of the night. She didn’t even come close to winning her home state of Massachusetts. Well, now she can just sit back with her husband and have a nice cold beer!

Mini Mike, don’t lick your dirty fingers. Both unsanitary and dangerous to others and yourself!
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