Should we fear the Democratic Party? - Page 5

varwoche · 4th March 2020, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by uke2se

No, everything he's written makes sense. Your reaction is what doesn't make sense.

Hey, don't blame me for having a far better sense of US politics than you or he, and for being an independent thinker who tries not to let my personal hopes and dreams -- which pretty much align with Bernie -- outweigh reality.

The Great Zaganza · 4th March 2020, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Cabbage

....nor is the belief that Sanders would have lost to Trump.

It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination.
I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year.

JoeMorgue · 4th March 2020, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination.
I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year.

Let me explain it. Within a rounding error everyone that thinks Sanders could have beaten Trump '16 or will in 2020 buy, to some degree, into the conspiracy theory that Sanders was cheated out of the nomination in '16.

Distracted1 · 4th March 2020, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination.
I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year.

Different pool of voters.

Cabbage · 4th March 2020, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination.
I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year.

Actually, it's not. Voting is not transitive. This is well known.

The Great Zaganza · 4th March 2020, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Distracted1

Different pool of voters.

overlapping pool of voters - do I need to draw you a Venn diagram?

The Great Zaganza · 4th March 2020, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Let me explain it. Within a rounding error everyone that thinks Sanders could have beaten Trump '16 or will in 2020 buy, to some degree, into the conspiracy theory that Sanders was cheated out of the nomination in '16.

BrooklynBaby · 4th March 2020, 06:31 PM

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"I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price!" Schumer warned. "You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.

4th March 2020, 08:11 AM	#161
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 15,469	Originally Posted by uke2se No, everything he's written makes sense. Your reaction is what doesn't make sense. Hey, don't blame me for having a far better sense of US politics than you or he, and for being an independent thinker who tries not to let my personal hopes and dreams -- which pretty much align with Bernie -- outweigh reality.
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4th March 2020, 08:18 AM	#162
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,888	Originally Posted by Cabbage ....nor is the belief that Sanders would have lost to Trump. It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination. I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year.
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4th March 2020, 08:20 AM	#163
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 31,690	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination. I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year. Let me explain it. Within a rounding error everyone that thinks Sanders could have beaten Trump '16 or will in 2020 buy, to some degree, into the conspiracy theory that Sanders was cheated out of the nomination in '16.
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4th March 2020, 08:26 AM	#164
Distracted1 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,626	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination. I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year. Different pool of voters.
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4th March 2020, 08:32 AM	#165
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza It is by the fact that Clinton, not Sanders, won the Nomination. I fail to see the argument that voters would be more enthusiastic for the candidate they didn't vote for earlier that year. Actually, it's not. Voting is not transitive. This is well known.
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4th March 2020, 08:44 AM	#166
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,888	Originally Posted by Distracted1 Different pool of voters. overlapping pool of voters - do I need to draw you a Venn diagram?
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4th March 2020, 08:45 AM	#167
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,888	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Let me explain it. Within a rounding error everyone that thinks Sanders could have beaten Trump '16 or will in 2020 buy, to some degree, into the conspiracy theory that Sanders was cheated out of the nomination in '16.
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4th March 2020, 06:31 PM	#168
BrooklynBaby Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 1,106	Chuck Schumer threatens two sitting members of the Supreme Court: "I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price!" Schumer warned. "You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.