Right wingers CT that "antifa" is starting west coast wildfires.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by Butter!

America is over. I've just accepted my doom at this point.

Let's not go crazy now. We're having a rough patch. Things can still turn around.

[Trebuchet]

Originally Posted by Butter!

America is over. I've just accepted my doom at this point.

It's not often, but there are times when it's a relief to be into my eighth decade. But I worry about the younger folks in my family.

[Thermal]

Originally Posted by Butter!

America is over. I've just accepted my doom at this point.

One of the few tattoos I've always considered getting was the quote attributed to Winston Churchill: Never, Never, Never Give Up.

[Trebuchet]

Originally Posted by Thermal

One of the few tattoos I've always considered getting was the quote attributed to Winston Churchill: Never, Never, Never Give Up.

Is that a Rickroll?

[SuburbanTurkey]

Quote:

Speaking today at a fire press briefing, Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts said his biggest fear is that out of state firefighters here to help could be confronted by vigilantes because they have out of state license plates.

Right wingers, worse than useless in an emergency.

https://twitter.com/ryanjhaas/status...55322925649921

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Butter!

America is over. I've just accepted my doom at this point.

Don't be so glum. There's still time to turn the country around. It can even be done peacefully at this point. But that window is rapidly closing.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Right wingers, worse than useless in an emergency.

https://twitter.com/ryanjhaas/status...55322925649921

Well then, ******* arrest them. Put your SWAT team together, get your cans of whoopass out of the armory and go screw some gun barrels in peoples' ears. Do it to a couple of checkpoints and the rest will magically disappear.

Seriously, what the **** does a white guy with a gun have to do to get arrested?

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Don't be so glum. There's still time to turn the country around.

Doubtful

[Bubba]

Fake Antifa arsonist carrying fake matches,

Fake angry property owner with fake gun,

Fake news.


In the video, the woman can be seen detaining the man on the road as she asks him why he was going into her property with matches in his hand.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-b448867.html

[Elagabalus]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Fake Antifa arsonist carrying fake matches,

Fake angry property owner with fake gun,

Fake news.


In the video, the woman can be seen detaining the man on the road as she asks him why he was going into her property with matches in his hand.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-b448867.html

That video is totally fake, dude.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

That video is totally fake, dude.

Right

Thats the point.

[smartcooky]

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

That video is totally fake, dude.

It is so obviously fake, I'm dumbfounded that anyone would be naive or stupid enough to be taken in by it...

But hey, Trump supporters I guess.....

[catsmate]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

worried about "antifa" starting fires and then looting their property after they evacuate or

Has this happened? How often?

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

are they worried about non-ideological criminally minded people starting fires and then looting their property after they evacuate or

Has this happened? How often?

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

are they worried about people not starting a fire but taking advantage of the situation and looting their property after they evacuate?

Has this happened? How often?

[catsmate]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Let's not go crazy now. We're having a rough patch. Things can still turn around.

True, The Nazis controlled Germany for twelve years.

[SuburbanTurkey]

Originally Posted by catsmate

True, The Nazis controlled Germany for twelve years.

There's no Soviet army to save us this time though.

[Craig4]

https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2020/09/1...and-resources/

On one level, Q morons confusing the Bureau of Land Management which is working hard to fight the fires with Black Lives Matter is so dumb it's funny.

This is another, dark example of why conspiracy theorists need to learn their place and not inject themselves in important matters. The stupidity here is actually causing harm and distracting resources and personnel who should be working on protecting lives and property. Their kind need to stick with the moon landings and Elvis sightings and not involve themselves in matters that require the attention of serious, rational adults.

[Allen773]

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

There's no Soviet army to save us this time though.

To be fair I wouldn't want the Soviet army to save us, if I had a choice in the matter.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by catsmate

Has this happened? How often?

Has this happened? How often?

Has this happened? How often?

Have there ever been people associated with antifa who intended to start wildfires so they could then loot? Not that I am aware.

Have there ever been people who started wildfires because they wanted to loot? Not that I am aware of. I suppose it's possible but it would be pretty stupid to set fire to property that you wanted to loot. Fire tends to destroy valuable lootable property.

Has anybody ever intentionally started a wildfire? Uh...yeah.

Has there ever been looting following a fire or other natural disaster? Uh...yeah.

[Axxman300]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Have there ever been people associated with antifa who intended to start wildfires so they could then loot? Not that I am aware.

Have there ever been people who started wildfires because they wanted to loot? Not that I am aware of. I suppose it's possible but it would be pretty stupid to set fire to property that you wanted to loot. Fire tends to destroy valuable lootable property.

Has anybody ever intentionally started a wildfire? Uh...yeah.

Has there ever been looting following a fire or other natural disaster? Uh...yeah.

Antifa is just the new right-wing bogey man.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-arson-arrests

Quote:

Arson arrests during fire season are nothing new. Some involve people with mental illness or pyromaniac compulsions, others are people being careless, say, at a gender reveal. But with the US election firmly underway, incidents like the one involving Lopez have been swept up in a wave of right-wing online conspiracy theories designed at discrediting climate change scientists and playing into President Trump’s message about a breakdown of law and order in Democratic-leaning states.

Most notably, people have falsely claimed some of the fires were arson attacks committed by antifa, a loosely defined group of left-wing, anti-fascist activists that Trump has called a "terrorist organization." This fear-mongering — particularly in Oregon, which has been the site of deadly clashes between right- and left-wing demonstrators in recent months — has even led some residents to vow to defy evacuation orders and remain in their burning towns in order to "defend" them from the purported arsonists. The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office has even had to remove checkpoints set up by residents who had been forcing cars to stop. Photographers and journalists have been accused of being arsonists and looters, and have been threatened and even held at gunpoint as a result.

Amid the swirling falsehoods, the FBI has had to intervene, releasing a statement on Friday making clear that reports of "extremists" being behind the fires had been investigated and were found to be untrue. "Conspiracy theories and misinformation take valuable resources away [from] local fire and police agencies working around the clock to bring these fires under control," the FBI's Portland division said.

[Bubba]

Here is a messenger to attack.


FARRELL: Evidence Of Criminal Human Activity Causing Wildfires


https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the...ity-wildfires/

[Bubba]

Dont forget, buzzfeed and MSM lie to protect democrat militant antifa arsonists

[Elagabalus]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Here is a messenger to attack.


FARRELL: Evidence Of Criminal Human Activity Causing Wildfires


https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the...ity-wildfires/

That article is a ******* joke.

[Elagabalus]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Dont forget, buzzfeed and MSM lie to protect democrat militant antifa arsonists

Present the evidence of this.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Dont forget, buzzfeed and MSM lie to protect democrat militant antifa arsonists

This is a lie.

[Skeptic Ginger]

What is the supposed goal of lighting these fires?

[The Great Zaganza]

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

What is the supposed goal of lighting these fires?

Ask the fire-breathing Jews.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

What is the supposed goal of lighting these fires?

Same reason they light fires in cities

Its what they do


Its not rocket science

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Same reason they light fires in cities

Its what they do


Its not rocket science

Except that they didn't and you lied.

[smartcooky]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba
Dont forget, buzzfeed and MSM lie to protect democrat militant antifa arsonists

Looks like you've been chugging that Trump Kool-Aid again

[Bubba]

No silly.

The war on truth and humanity began long before anyone heard of Trump.

The Deep State/media unholy marriage is merely the current version.

You are the one with Kool Aide oozing from your eyes and ears.

Do carry on in your state of denial.

Originally Posted by smartcooky

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rovppzw2qd...lAid.png?raw=1

Looks like you've been chugging that Trump Kool-Aid again

[smartcooky]

Quote:

Posted by Bubba
The war on truth and humanity began long before anyone heard of Trump.

Your so-called "war on truth" is a fiction that exists only in the minds of the Idiocracy and the Stupidati that inhabit the ranks of dumb-ass conspiracy theorists.

You're partially, right that this conspiracy theory predates the Trump Presidency, but it does not pre-date Trump himself. Remember the ludicrous BS that was "birtherism"? If you are looking for a war on truth you can start with that one - and Trump was the most prominent promoter of birther conspiracy theories as far back as 2010.


ETA: Oh, and can you remember who declared antifa to be a "terrorist organization"?

[Matthew Ellard]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Dont forget, buzzfeed and MSM lie to protect democrat militant antifa arsonists

Sooooo you and your fellow Q-Anon followers are claiming Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch (Fox) are protecting democrat militant antifa arsonists?

This is comedy gold!

[Matthew Ellard]

Originally Posted by Bubba

The Deep State/media unholy marriage is merely the current version.

Soooooo......Bubba? Who is the "Deep State" contact that Fox News is married to?

[Cosmic Yak]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Here is a messenger to attack.


FARRELL: Evidence Of Criminal Human Activity Causing Wildfires


https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the...ity-wildfires/

Well, it is an easy target, so thanks for that.

Quote:

Over the past week, PolitiFact summarily shot down allegations of human-made fires

Did you check the link for that, Bubba? The link in the article? Because it clearly shows how that sentence is a bare-faced lie.
Did you look at the list of people arrested for arson? How many of them were antifa? (I got as far as number 6, and only one of them was mentioned as a BLM activist. No mention of antifa up to there).
It is so funny how you do this, Bubba.
Every. Single. Time.

Edited by Agatha:

Edited to remove breach of rule 12

[SuburbanTurkey]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Well then, ******* arrest them. Put your SWAT team together, get your cans of whoopass out of the armory and go screw some gun barrels in peoples' ears. Do it to a couple of checkpoints and the rest will magically disappear.

Seriously, what the **** does a white guy with a gun have to do to get arrested?

Cops and right wing vigilantes, name a more iconic duo.

Quote:

Drivers who were stopped said they were asked to identify themselves and their connection to the town and claimed that on at least two occasions, police were on the scene and did not intervene in the illegal traffic stops.

Cops side with armed right wing extremists almost every time. Cops and Klan, hand in hand. Always have been, always will be.

Quote:

Robinson said she was questioned by a “heavily armed” man carrying a AR-style long gun and a visible sidearm. She said the man asked at one point: “You’re not from around here, are you?” which Robinson, who is African American, understood as having racist overtones.

Eventually the men let her pass on to her friend’s place. On her return journey, she was stopped again. She said she saw two Multnomah county sheriff’s office (MCSO) cruisers stopped by the roadblock, and an officer talking with one of the people running it. She said the deputies did nothing to intervene in the illegal stop.

Armed vigilantes stopping black travelers and questioning them about their business. Nothing for cops to be concerned about here.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...dblocks-police

[rambaldi]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Seriously, what the **** does a white guy with a gun have to do to get arrested?

Carry a Biden Flag and protest against the orange Turd...

[Bubba]

Just ignore, or ridicule. Either choice assures fake skeptics struggling with cognitive dissonance

Quote:

The media — and social media — insist that this year's fires in California and Oregon are a product of climate change. Well Glenn has news for all these so-called "protectors" of the truth. Even better, he has the actual DOCUMENTS to prove otherwise! Here are the arrest records for multiple suspected ARSONISTS — and at least one is a known BLM activist, dating back to Ferguson. So what's really going on? It's up to you to always question what you're being told, do your research, and find the truth.

[smartcooky]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Just ignore, or ridicule. Either choice assures fake skeptics struggling with cognitive dissonance

Given your postings on this subject, being ignored and ridiculed is an appropriate response. They have been the Gold-Standard for Stupid; the gift that keeps giving

[Bubba]

There’s evidence of criminal human activity causing forest fires. Over a dozen people have been charged recently with setting western wildfires. Domingo Lopez Jr. may be the champion firebug. He started a brush fire along I-205 in Oregon using a Molotov Cocktail, was arrested, booked and later released. Then Lopez proceeded to start six more small fires in the next twelve hours before being apprehended again. Another alleged arsonist, BLM activist Jeffrey Acord, livestreamed the fire on Facebook as police arrived, then claimed to be calling the incident in.

Quote:

Cops arrest four for arson - including man who LIVE STREAMED fire he is accused of starting - as death toll from wildfires climbs to 29 and Oregon officials warn of 'mass fatality event'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...500K-flee.html

NO no...its global warming.

Our holy Saint Greta told us so !

[Matthew Ellard]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Just ignore, or ridicule. Either choice assures fake skeptics struggling with cognitive dissonance

"The media — and social media — insist that this year's fires in California and Oregon are a product of climate change. Well Glenn has news for all these so-called "protectors" of the truth. Even better, he has the actual DOCUMENTS to prove otherwise!"

Whoops Bubba. You forgot again. Australia had exactly the same fires as California, eight months ago, also without arsonists. The world is going through climate change. That's why it is heating up.

Remember, you and your fellow Q-Anon followers are denying rising temperatures (cognitive dissonance)