Trump's Coup d'état. - Page 86

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I think a good case can be made that Trump is a clear and present danger to the country for the remainder of his term.

13 days 21 hours and counting down.

Mumbles · 6th January 2021, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Yes, but that's not what I'm talking about.

Cops don't treat right wing extremists as enemies. Right wing crimes count for less in their eyes. That's my point. They look the other way while these fascists engage in blatant criminality in the streets.

And in truth, they've done so even though armed right-wingers have repeatedly shot and killed police on multiple occasions.

But you know, can't let the young negros in Baltimore ride the bus home from school, someone sent a mean tweet about a "purge" in a local mall (note: actual reason given for Baltimore setting off riots in 2015).

Reformed Offlian · 6th January 2021, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

And he called the traitors "SPecial People".

Well, calling them "retards" is considered rude...

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Ivanka Trump Tweeted:

American Patriots - any security breach or disrespect to our law enforcement is unacceptable.
The violence must stop immediately. Please be peaceful.

She then deleted the Tweet.

Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake.

This was a bad move earlier when speakers were addressing the crowd:

Alabama News, 9am: Mo Brooks: Today patriots start ‘kicking ass’ in fighting vote results

I wonder what he thought that was going to do?

dirtywick · 6th January 2021, 03:27 PM

each snowflake is unique, that's what makes them special

angrysoba · 6th January 2021, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Video of a DC riot cop holding the hand of someone who stormed the capitol, helping her down the stairs.

https://twitter.com/_DaniBeck/status...41125320351744

Meanwhile cops gave an old man in Buffalo permanent brain damage for attending a BLM protest on the public streets.

Get a ****** clue.

Indeed. This is complicity by ommission by those supposed to be involved in enforcing the law.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Pterodactyl

How could the capitol police not have been prepared for such a thing?

I do believe this was stupidity.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 03:28 PM

Just heard Insurrectionists calling CNN reporters four letter words.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mader Levap

Still dismissing and downplaying, I see. Disgusting.

Still over reacting and fear mongering I see.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake.

This was a bad move earlier when speakers were addressing the crowd:

Alabama News, 9am: Mo Brooks: Today patriots start ‘kicking ass’ in fighting vote results

I wonder what he thought that was going to do?

God, you have to be an idiot not to get that once a tweet goes out, it is there forever.

angrysoba · 6th January 2021, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake.

This was a bad move earlier when speakers were addressing the crowd:

Alabama News, 9am: Mo Brooks: Today patriots start ‘kicking ass’ in fighting vote results

I wonder what he thought that was going to do?

He should be expelled from Congress and arrested for sedition.

zooterkin · 6th January 2021, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake.

Probably because she was criticised for referring to rioters as "American Patriots".

dirtywick · 6th January 2021, 03:30 PM

lol it's not every day that an angry mob of fascists takes over the capital, even if it is only temporarily. so really, what's an appropriate reaction to that?

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 03:33 PM

The Insurrectionists are now calling the DC Police four letter words and calling them Traitors.
So much for the Trumpers loving the police.
I think they are anarchists at theart.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Are you not getting this? Trump wants this. He thinks this will keep him in office, either as president or as a dictator. The only regret he has right now is that the mob didn't succeed in lynching any legislators. Yet.

I'm sure he wants it. Not sure if that's for revenge or he actually thinks it will keep him in office.

angrysoba · 6th January 2021, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I do believe this was stupidity.

In that case, heads should roll in the police department.

Nobody in charge of law enforcement has any right to say they didn't see this coming.

In fact, they should be investigated as complicit.

angrysoba · 6th January 2021, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

The Insurrectionists are now calling the DC Police four letter words and calling them Traitors.
So much for the Trumpers loving the police.
I think they are anarchists at theart.

I think they are pieces of ****.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 03:34 PM

The Insurrectionsits are saying they are going to defy the curfew and get even roughter after dark.
Send in the National Guard, fully armed, with orders to give one warining to the rioters, and then open fire.
Extreme measure, yes, but this must be crushed ASAP. Half Measured won't work.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

As there is ALWAYS a relevant Tweet:

Trump tweeted on the 27th July:

"Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it!"

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

I think they are pieces of ****.

False Dicthotomy. Then can be both.

SuburbanTurkey · 6th January 2021, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

The Insurrectionists are now calling the DC Police four letter words and calling them Traitors.
So much for the Trumpers loving the police.
I think they are anarchists at theart.

I don't think you know what anarchy means. Right wingers engaged in acts of violence in response to fascist-curious president losing an election aren't anarchists.

These people very much believe in authority and state power, they just very much believe it should be headed by their god-king Trump.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by johnny karate

A violent mob has overtaken the Capitol. The coup has arrived.

They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened).

Not so funny now.

zooterkin · 6th January 2021, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and seriously injured (maybe by a cop that felt threatened).

[stifles a laugh]

Is there a reason you seem to be playing this down?

angrysoba · 6th January 2021, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Is there a reason you seem to be playing this down?

It's all to save face ever since about two months ago.

The Don · 6th January 2021, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened).

Not so funny now.

It's fine when it's a BLM peaceful protester, but not when it's a Trump supporter storming the Capitol.

Jack by the hedge · 6th January 2021, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

As there is ALWAYS a relevant Tweet:

Trump tweeted on the 27th July:

"Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it!"

Yeah, but they don't damage the building if you just let them in.

And they weren't there to desecrate the building, just to seize elected public officials and, you know, probably talk to them or something. Probably.

Safe-Keeper · 6th January 2021, 03:43 PM

Unbelievable. All of it. That's all I have to say.

Regnad Kcin · 6th January 2021, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

I've messed people up badly for less offence, and I'm not the most hot-blooded of people. Cruz factors it into his career. I loathe him.

One of my favorite recent political quotes:

“Here's the thing you have to understand about Ted Cruz," former US senator Al Franken once wrote. "I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz."

Mader Levap · 6th January 2021, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened).

[stifles a laugh]

I guess some people will continue to be blind.

Yes, yes, USA won't fall today, blah, blah.

What you are blind to are consequences down the road.

Someone that thinks events that happened this day do not matter and aren't yet another cut weakening american democracy (or whatever pass for it in USA) is a fool.

The Atheist · 6th January 2021, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

It's hard for me to call this folly a coup without bursting out laughing.

We've had the Velvet Revolution, the Arab Spring, Cultural Revolution, Orange Revolution...

What shall we call this one?

How about the Deliverance Revolution?

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Video of a DC riot cop holding the hand of someone who stormed the capitol, helping her down the stairs.

So, you think they should have punched her in the face?

Or arrested her?

De-escalation is a real thing, and the fact that the cops were practising it instead of creating martyrs is the appropriate response.

Mader Levap · 6th January 2021, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Atheist

So, you think they should have punched her in the face?

Or arrested her?

De-escalation is a real thing, and the fact that the cops were practising it instead of creating martyrs is the appropriate response.

Their point was that police is quite... selective... about this treatment.

cosmicaug · 6th January 2021, 03:53 PM

From https://twitter.com/evansiegfried/status/1346947668648603650:

Quote:

So basically the sec def and chair of the joint chiefs bypassed Trump to deploy the National Guard. Remarkable display of no confidence in the president by the leaders of the military.

Elagabalus · 6th January 2021, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

The Insurrectionsits are saying they are going to defy the curfew and get even roughter after dark.
Send in the National Guard, fully armed, with orders to give one warining to the rioters, and then open fire.
Extreme measure, yes, but this must be crushed ASAP. Half Measured won't work.

Here you go. From some dude named patriot try over on OANN.

Quote:

PatriotTrey
Fool! We are saving our great country from the communist liberals. President Trump will protect our freedom from the communists. Join or perish!

True patriots do not support communist liberals. You shall perish with the rest.

Fool. Mr. Pence had proved himself a traitor, he is no longer part of the team. We will win!

We are past the nonsense. We are taking matters into our own hands and fighting for our freedom. Are you here in DC, if not come now and bring every piece of artillery you have.

Mr Pence has deemed himself a traitor and is no longer welcome in the White House.

Fool! We will win, we out number the entire military, police, FBI - throw al you got at us. We will win. You call us that again we will come for you!

You call the greatest President in the history of this great country a dictator? President Trump is leading us to freedom from communism. We must unite against the liberal! All liberals and liberal supporters shall perish!

We will win. Senate and House will never meet again. We only need one lawmaker our great leader President Elect Trump shall lead us to greatness.

Who else is here in DC? We need to be on all the same page. We will win back our country.

ChristianProgressive · 6th January 2021, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Did you see troops joining in with the rioters?

Or is this a joke?

No, but that may explain why the military is saying it's "out of this". The Generals may be worried about their loyalty from the troops.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mader Levap

I guess some people will continue to be blind.

Yes, yes, USA won't fall today, blah, blah.

What you are blind to are consequences down the road.

Someone that thinks events that happened this day do not matter and aren't yet another cut weakening american democracy (or whatever pass for it in USA) is a fool.

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Now I'm even more frustrated. Is it ignoring a mod box warning to answer this here?

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Is there a reason you seem to be playing this down?

OK, I moved my answer to these posts to here.

ChristianProgressive · 6th January 2021, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

Reportedly there were multiple confederate flags and even a swastika

I also saw at least one KEK flag, which is also a white nationalist symbol.

ChristianProgressive · 6th January 2021, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

So the left should arm up?

Yes. Absolutely.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th January 2021, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive

No, but that may explain why the military is saying it's "out of this". The Generals may be worried about their loyalty from the troops.

OK, this is clearly a coup question.

The generals were saying there's no way they would support Trump if he tried to call for Martial Law.

I have seen no evidence whatsoever that more than a handful of US troops at the very most, would desert the army and follow Trump into battle.

Elagabalus · 6th January 2021, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened).

Not so funny now.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

thaiboxerken · 6th January 2021, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

OK, this is clearly a coup question.

The generals were saying there's no way they would support Trump if he tried to call for Martial Law.

I have seen no evidence whatsoever that more than a handful of US troops at the very most, would desert the army and follow Trump into battle.

A Coup d'etat requires the military to join in. A coup does not.

6th January 2021, 03:26 PM	#3402
Mumbles Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,521	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Yes, but that's not what I'm talking about. Cops don't treat right wing extremists as enemies. Right wing crimes count for less in their eyes. That's my point. They look the other way while these fascists engage in blatant criminality in the streets. And in truth, they've done so even though armed right-wingers have repeatedly shot and killed police on multiple occasions. But you know, can't let the young negros in Baltimore ride the bus home from school, someone sent a mean tweet about a "purge" in a local mall (note: actual reason given for Baltimore setting off riots in 2015).
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6th January 2021, 03:27 PM	#3405
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6th January 2021, 03:28 PM	#3406
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,628	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Video of a DC riot cop holding the hand of someone who stormed the capitol, helping her down the stairs. https://twitter.com/_DaniBeck/status...41125320351744 Meanwhile cops gave an old man in Buffalo permanent brain damage for attending a BLM protest on the public streets. Get a ****** clue. Indeed. This is complicity by ommission by those supposed to be involved in enforcing the law.
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6th January 2021, 03:28 PM	#3408
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,643	Just heard Insurrectionists calling CNN reporters four letter words.
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6th January 2021, 03:29 PM	#3410
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,643	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake. This was a bad move earlier when speakers were addressing the crowd: Alabama News, 9am: Mo Brooks: Today patriots start ‘kicking ass’ in fighting vote results I wonder what he thought that was going to do? God, you have to be an idiot not to get that once a tweet goes out, it is there forever.
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6th January 2021, 03:22 PM	#3401
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by alfaniner I think a good case can be made that Trump is a clear and present danger to the country for the remainder of his term. 13 days 21 hours and counting down.

6th January 2021, 03:26 PM	#3403
Reformed Offlian Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: USA Posts: 363	Originally Posted by dudalb And he called the traitors "SPecial People". Well, calling them "retards" is considered rude...

6th January 2021, 03:27 PM	#3404
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Ivanka Trump Tweeted: American Patriots - any security breach or disrespect to our law enforcement is unacceptable. The violence must stop immediately. Please be peaceful. She then deleted the Tweet. Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake. This was a bad move earlier when speakers were addressing the crowd: Alabama News, 9am: Mo Brooks: Today patriots start ‘kicking ass’ in fighting vote results I wonder what he thought that was going to do?

6th January 2021, 03:28 PM	#3407
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by Pterodactyl How could the capitol police not have been prepared for such a thing? I do believe this was stupidity.

6th January 2021, 03:29 PM	#3409
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by Mader Levap Still dismissing and downplaying, I see. Disgusting. Still over reacting and fear mongering I see.

6th January 2021, 03:29 PM	#3411
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,628	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake. This was a bad move earlier when speakers were addressing the crowd: Alabama News, 9am: Mo Brooks: Today patriots start ‘kicking ass’ in fighting vote results I wonder what he thought that was going to do? He should be expelled from Congress and arrested for sedition.
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6th January 2021, 03:30 PM	#3412
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 48,855	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Then she deleted it? Oh for pity's sake. Probably because she was criticised for referring to rioters as "American Patriots".
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6th January 2021, 03:30 PM	#3413
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,356	lol it's not every day that an angry mob of fascists takes over the capital, even if it is only temporarily. so really, what's an appropriate reaction to that?
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6th January 2021, 03:33 PM	#3414
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,643	The Insurrectionists are now calling the DC Police four letter words and calling them Traitors. So much for the Trumpers loving the police. I think they are anarchists at theart.
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6th January 2021, 03:33 PM	#3415
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Are you not getting this? Trump wants this. He thinks this will keep him in office, either as president or as a dictator. The only regret he has right now is that the mob didn't succeed in lynching any legislators. Yet. I'm sure he wants it. Not sure if that's for revenge or he actually thinks it will keep him in office.

6th January 2021, 03:33 PM	#3416
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,628	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger I do believe this was stupidity. In that case, heads should roll in the police department. Nobody in charge of law enforcement has any right to say they didn't see this coming. In fact, they should be investigated as complicit.
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6th January 2021, 03:34 PM	#3417
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,628	Originally Posted by dudalb The Insurrectionists are now calling the DC Police four letter words and calling them Traitors. So much for the Trumpers loving the police. I think they are anarchists at theart. I think they are pieces of ****.
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6th January 2021, 03:34 PM	#3418
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,643	The Insurrectionsits are saying they are going to defy the curfew and get even roughter after dark. Send in the National Guard, fully armed, with orders to give one warining to the rioters, and then open fire. Extreme measure, yes, but this must be crushed ASAP. Half Measured won't work.
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6th January 2021, 03:35 PM	#3419
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by Matthew Best As there is ALWAYS a relevant Tweet: Trump tweeted on the 27th July: "Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it!"

6th January 2021, 03:36 PM	#3420
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,643	Originally Posted by angrysoba I think they are pieces of ****. False Dicthotomy. Then can be both.
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6th January 2021, 03:36 PM	#3421
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,579	Originally Posted by dudalb The Insurrectionists are now calling the DC Police four letter words and calling them Traitors. So much for the Trumpers loving the police. I think they are anarchists at theart. I don't think you know what anarchy means. Right wingers engaged in acts of violence in response to fascist-curious president losing an election aren't anarchists. These people very much believe in authority and state power, they just very much believe it should be headed by their god-king Trump.
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6th January 2021, 03:39 PM	#3422
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by johnny karate A violent mob has overtaken the Capitol. The coup has arrived. They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened). Not so funny now.
	Last edited by Skeptic Ginger; 6th January 2021 at 03:40 PM.

6th January 2021, 03:40 PM	#3423
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 48,855	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and seriously injured (maybe by a cop that felt threatened). [stifles a laugh] Is there a reason you seem to be playing this down?
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6th January 2021, 03:43 PM	#3424
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,628	Originally Posted by zooterkin Is there a reason you seem to be playing this down? It's all to save face ever since about two months ago.
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6th January 2021, 03:43 PM	#3425
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,650	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened). Not so funny now. It's fine when it's a BLM peaceful protester, but not when it's a Trump supporter storming the Capitol.

6th January 2021, 03:43 PM	#3426
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,987	Originally Posted by Matthew Best As there is ALWAYS a relevant Tweet: Trump tweeted on the 27th July: "Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it!" Yeah, but they don't damage the building if you just let them in. And they weren't there to desecrate the building, just to seize elected public officials and, you know, probably talk to them or something. Probably.

6th January 2021, 03:43 PM	#3427
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Unbelievable. All of it. That's all I have to say.
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6th January 2021, 03:44 PM	#3428
Regnad Kcin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 10,270	Originally Posted by CapelDodger I've messed people up badly for less offence, and I'm not the most hot-blooded of people. Cruz factors it into his career. I loathe him. One of my favorite recent political quotes: “Here's the thing you have to understand about Ted Cruz," former US senator Al Franken once wrote. "I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz."
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6th January 2021, 03:45 PM	#3429
Mader Levap Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,576	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger They broke a few windows, yelled a lot, and one person was shot and ~~seriously injured~~ died (by a cop that felt threatened). [stifles a laugh] I guess some people will continue to be blind. Yes, yes, USA won't fall today, blah, blah. What you are blind to are consequences down the road. Someone that thinks events that happened this day do not matter and aren't yet another cut weakening american democracy (or whatever pass for it in USA) is a fool.
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6th January 2021, 03:46 PM	#3430
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 28,618	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger It's hard for me to call this folly a coup without bursting out laughing. We've had the Velvet Revolution, the Arab Spring, Cultural Revolution, Orange Revolution... What shall we call this one? How about the Deliverance Revolution? Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Video of a DC riot cop holding the hand of someone who stormed the capitol, helping her down the stairs. So, you think they should have punched her in the face? Or arrested her? De-escalation is a real thing, and the fact that the cops were practising it instead of creating martyrs is the appropriate response.
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6th January 2021, 03:48 PM	#3431
Mader Levap Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,576	Originally Posted by The Atheist So, you think they should have punched her in the face? Or arrested her? De-escalation is a real thing, and the fact that the cops were practising it instead of creating martyrs is the appropriate response. Their point was that police is quite... selective... about this treatment.
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6th January 2021, 03:53 PM	#3432
cosmicaug Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,465	From https://twitter.com/evansiegfried/status/1346947668648603650: Quote: So basically the sec def and chair of the joint chiefs bypassed Trump to deploy the National Guard. Remarkable display of no confidence in the president by the leaders of the military.
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6th January 2021, 03:57 PM	#3433
Elagabalus Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 7,020	Originally Posted by dudalb The Insurrectionsits are saying they are going to defy the curfew and get even roughter after dark. Send in the National Guard, fully armed, with orders to give one warining to the rioters, and then open fire. Extreme measure, yes, but this must be crushed ASAP. Half Measured won't work. Here you go. From some dude named patriot try over on OANN. Quote: PatriotTrey Fool! We are saving our great country from the communist liberals. President Trump will protect our freedom from the communists. Join or perish! True patriots do not support communist liberals. You shall perish with the rest. Fool. Mr. Pence had proved himself a traitor, he is no longer part of the team. We will win! We are past the nonsense. We are taking matters into our own hands and fighting for our freedom. Are you here in DC, if not come now and bring every piece of artillery you have. Mr Pence has deemed himself a traitor and is no longer welcome in the White House. Fool! We will win, we out number the entire military, police, FBI - throw al you got at us. We will win. You call us that again we will come for you! You call the greatest President in the history of this great country a dictator? President Trump is leading us to freedom from communism. We must unite against the liberal! All liberals and liberal supporters shall perish! We will win. Senate and House will never meet again. We only need one lawmaker our great leader President Elect Trump shall lead us to greatness. Who else is here in DC? We need to be on all the same page. We will win back our country.
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6th January 2021, 03:58 PM	#3434
ChristianProgressive Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 2,846	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Did you see troops joining in with the rioters? Or is this a joke? No, but that may explain why the military is saying it's "out of this". The Generals may be worried about their loyalty from the troops.
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6th January 2021, 03:58 PM	#3435
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,966	Originally Posted by Mader Levap I guess some people will continue to be blind. Yes, yes, USA won't fall today, blah, blah. What you are blind to are consequences down the road. Someone that thinks events that happened this day do not matter and aren't yet another cut weakening american democracy (or whatever pass for it in USA) is a fool. Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Now I'm even more frustrated. Is it ignoring a mod box warning to answer this here? Originally Posted by zooterkin Is there a reason you seem to be playing this down? OK, I moved my answer to these posts to here.