The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread. - Page 5

kookbreaker · 28th January 2021, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

That's a good theory, but IIRC the party did fund her primary opponent and she still won. Her district wanted a dangerous loon and they got one.

That’s an election, however. In this case if the Democrats are getting ticked that a woman who talks gleefully of killing them along with belief is several conspiracies that are just embarrassing the GOP may decide defending her against removal is not a hill worth dying on.

Skeptic Ginger · 28th January 2021, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

Further confirmation (if any was needed) that she is a total whackjob!

She was running around the Capitol hallways (caught on the news) insisting legislators had to swear in using the Bible and not the Koran and she was going to track them down and see if they would swear in on the Bible.

Maybe she expected they would shrink away in fear lest they burst into flames. The reporters tried to tell her there was no requirement they had to swear in using a Bible but like all these nut-jobs she simply insisted they were wrong.

I wished the reporters had followed up because I'd like to have seen the legislators the woman was trying to find laugh in her face.

Skeptic Ginger · 28th January 2021, 06:45 PM

Here we go (sorry if it's already posted):

The Independent: Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their oaths on a Bible in a resurfaced video

Quote:

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a QAnon-supporting Republican who is known for pushing conspiracy theories and making racists comments, previously tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their congressional oaths on the Bible.

Video footage surfaced on Wednesday of Ms Greene walking through the halls of Congress prior to being elected as a Georgia representative.

In the footage, she was claiming that Ms Omar and Ms Tlaib were illegitimate Democratic representatives because they took their oaths of office on the Quran instead of the Bible.

It doesn't say what happened.

Minoosh · 28th January 2021, 06:57 PM

I wonder if she's going to do a good job for her constituents. I wouldn't think so, but a good staff can help.

kookbreaker · 28th January 2021, 07:28 PM

If they don’t all quit.

alfaniner · 28th January 2021, 08:10 PM

I'd think David Hogg (the young man she accosted in the video) could develop a massive following. I haven't seen him in the media for quite some time, but the recent interview shows him with a Moses-level head of hair and practically channeling the WASP idealization of Jesus. He's articulate, charismatic, and obviously highly tolerant of ********.

dudalb · 28th January 2021, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

She was running around the Capitol hallways (caught on the news) insisting legislators had to swear in using the Bible and not the Koran and she was going to track them down and see if they would swear in on the Bible.

Maybe she expected they would shrink away in fear lest they burst into flames. The reporters tried to tell her there was no requirement they had to swear in using a Bible but like all these nut-jobs she simply insisted they were wrong.

I wished the reporters had followed up because I'd like to have seen the legislators the woman was trying to find laugh in her face.

No one tell her that Jewish members are usually sworn in on Bibles containing only the Old Testament.....

dudalb · 28th January 2021, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I wonder if she's going to do a good job for her constituents. I wouldn't think so, but a good staff can help.

She is going to make her district the laughing stock of the country, ....

dudalb · 28th January 2021, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Here we go (sorry if it's already posted):

The Independent: Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their oaths on a Bible in a resurfaced videoIt doesn't say what happened.

Anyone tell her about the Dem from Hawaii who is a Buddhist and was sworn in on the Buddhist Scriptures?

Stacyhs · 28th January 2021, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

No one tell her that Jewish members are usually sworn in on Bibles containing only the Old Testament.....

That's OK because it's still "Godly".

Originally Posted by dudalb

She is going to make her district the laughing stock of the country, ....

They already are for having elected her.

smartcooky · 28th January 2021, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Anyone tell her about the Dem from Hawaii who is a Buddhist and was sworn in on the Buddhist Scriptures?

You mean Mazie Hirono? Well, she's not the only one!

Firestone · 29th January 2021, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

Marjorie Taylor Greene penned conspiracy theory that a laser beam from space started deadly 2018 California wildfire

So that's why "Jewish Space Laser" is trending on Twitter this morning.

The Great Zaganza · 29th January 2021, 12:17 AM

as so many like her, Marjorie is running around naked in a thunderstorm blaspheming, hoping to get struck by lightning to prove that God exists.

Stacyhs · 29th January 2021, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

as so many like her, Marjorie is running around naked in a thunderstorm blaspheming, hoping to get struck by lightning to prove that God exists.

Hopefully, God will oblige her.

The Great Zaganza · 29th January 2021, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Hopefully, God will oblige her.

no, because that would prove her point.

Better for her to get pneumonia.

smartcooky · 29th January 2021, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

So that's why "Jewish Laser beam" is trending on Twitter this morning.

Yeah, next thing you'll be trying to tell me is that she is a 9/11 Truth "no planer"....

Oh, wait

https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...spiracy-theory

Dragon · 29th January 2021, 12:37 AM

This is why I've enjoyed the JREF/ISF forums over the years - learning stuff. Often directly but also when branching off to other sources, Wikipedia in this case has an interesting page on the issue of taking the oath.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_...tates_Congress

How is it that prominent commentators or, worse, members of Congress can be so ignorant of the US Constitution? More likely they actually know that "no religious test shall ever be required..etc" and they are playing to a particular audience.

Elagabalus · 29th January 2021, 12:57 AM

Not a huge fan of Bill Maher but this is funny. Also NSFW.

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Goto 6:00

tl;dr

https://youtu.be/dPimd9W0jnE?t=359

Susheel · 29th January 2021, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dragon

How is it that prominent commentators or, worse, members of Congress can be so ignorant of the US Constitution? More likely they actually know that "no religious test shall ever be required..etc" and they are playing to a particular audience.

They (at least most of them like Hawley and Cruz) aren't ignorant. They are willing to lie because they know that their primary base is dumb enough to believe their lies. Also, the thing about politics is you don't really have to be smart or competent to get elected to office. You need a good team of PR guys and just tap into the collective psyche of your base and feed their paranoia and insecurities.

smartcooky · 29th January 2021, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Not a huge fan of Bill Maher but this is funny. Also NSFW.

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Goto 6:00

tl;dr

https://youtu.be/dPimd9W0jnE?t=359

Bwhahahha. "Lauren Boebert is someone you may have already thought about if you ever wondered what would happen if Michelle Bachmann smoked bath salts!"

Stacyhs · 29th January 2021, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Not a huge fan of Bill Maher but this is funny. Also NSFW.

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Goto 6:00

tl;dr

https://youtu.be/dPimd9W0jnE?t=359

Loved the whole clip.

Captain_Swoop · 29th January 2021, 03:29 AM

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser

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Axios has a small squib about “The Mischief Makers,” a handful of idiosyncratic congressional backbenchers who make trouble for their respective party leadership. The leading Democratic mischief-maker is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who advocates some left-wing views I consider simplistic and impractical and, in some cases, poll badly. The top example of a conservative mischief-maker, presented in perfect symmetry, is Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Greene’s views are just a bit more controversial. They include, but are by no means limited to, the following:

• The QAnon conspiracy theory, which holds that Donald Trump is secretly fighting a worldwide child-sex-slavery ring that was supposed to culminate in the mass arrest of his political opposition, is “worth listening to.”

• Muslims don’t belong in government.

• 9/11 was an inside job.

• Shootings at Parkland, Sandy Hook, and Las Vegas were staged.

• “Zionist supremacists” are secretly masterminding Muslim immigration to Europe in a scheme to outbreed white people.

• Leading Democratic officials should be executed.

The most recent Greene view to be unearthed comes via Eric Hananoki. Just over two years ago, Greene suggested in a Facebook post that wildfires in California were not natural. Forests don’t just catch fire, you know. Rather, the blazes had been started by PG&E, in conjunction with the Rothschilds, using a space laser, in order to clear room for a high-speed rail project.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...d-execute.html

The Don · 29th January 2021, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...d-execute.html

Is she alone in believing some or all of those things or are there other GOP House and Senate members who are on record saying similar things ?

Captain_Swoop · 29th January 2021, 06:28 AM

Caelum non sufficit

Motto of the Jewish Space Laser Command

Firestone · 29th January 2021, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Caelum non sufficit

Motto of the Jewish Space Laser Command

You think (((we))) have a Latin Motto?

Also, who leaked this?

SuburbanTurkey · 29th January 2021, 07:25 AM

Greene is scrubbing past social media posts.

Quote:

Marjorie Taylor Greene's account has deleted 19 tweets in the last 12 hours.

Greene is also scrubbing her Facebook of old posts and videos from 2018 and 2019 where she spread conspiracies and endorsed violence against Democratic lawmakers.

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1354821456811630596

pgwenthold · 29th January 2021, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I wonder if she's going to do a good job for her constituents. I wouldn't think so, but a good staff can help.

In what respect do you think she doesn't represent her constituents?

Saw a bit this morning on how someone interviewed people from her district. They were asked how they felt about the conspiracy theories. The response? Noah was accused of believing in conspiracy theories, too. Who can tell what's right?

turingtest · 29th January 2021, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...d-execute.html

Jesus ******* christ. We're in a time when this-

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-doesn't even work as parody anymore; we really are through the looking glass here, people.

Bob001 · 29th January 2021, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

They (at least most of them like Hawley and Cruz) aren't ignorant. They are willing to lie because they know that their primary base is dumb enough to believe their lies. Also, the thing about politics is you don't really have to be smart or competent to get elected to office. You need a good team of PR guys and just tap into the collective psyche of your base and feed their paranoia and insecurities.

Let's just note that Hawley graduated from Yale Law School, Cruz from Harvard, and they both clerked for Supreme Court justices. They do understand the Constitution. They just don't like it.

turingtest · 29th January 2021, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Greene is scrubbing past social media posts.

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1354821456811630596

Honestly- why would she think that would help? It's bad enough to have said (and believed) stupid things that make you look like a fool; but trying to erase them from an internet that never forgets is just admitting loudly that you know they were stupid things and that you're a fool.

Wudang · 29th January 2021, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

No one tell her that Jewish members are usually sworn in on Bibles containing only the Old Testament.....

I'd like to see her try to get Kustoff and Zeldin to swear on the Christian bible and see how that played.

Skeptic Ginger · 29th January 2021, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

In what respect do you think she doesn't represent her constituents?

Saw a bit this morning on how someone interviewed people from her district. They were asked how they felt about the conspiracy theories. The response? Noah was accused of believing in conspiracy theories, too. Who can tell what's right?

So Noah conspired with God? I don't think they understand the difference between a prediction (not that it's any less insane) and a CT.

Once one of these memes gets started, everyone of that ilk uses it, like Rand Paul claiming the impeachment trial of Trump is unconstitutional.

Skeptic Ginger · 29th January 2021, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Let's just note that Hawley graduated from Yale Law School, Cruz from Harvard, and they both clerked for Supreme Court justices. They do understand the Constitution. They just don't ~~like it~~ [give a rats ass about lying about it].

ftfy

Regnad Kcin · 29th January 2021, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by turingtest

Honestly- why would she think that would help? It's bad enough to have said (and believed) stupid things that make you look like a fool; but trying to erase them from an internet that never forgets is just admitting loudly that you know they were stupid things and that you're a fool.

I've found the trouble with your carburetor, Mrs. Ferguson.

pgwenthold · 29th January 2021, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

So Noah conspired with God? I don't think they understand the difference between a prediction (not that it's any less insane) and a CT.

No, I interpreted it as "God is going to destroy the world" is the conspiracy theory that Noah believed, and all his friends mocked him.

They put "Jews used lasers to start wildfires" as equivalent to the claim "God is going to destroy the world." Granted, so do I, but they actually think the second one is true so we can't rule out the possibility of the former.

Horatius · 29th January 2021, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

They (at least most of them like Hawley and Cruz) aren't ignorant. They are willing to lie because they know that their primary base is dumb enough to believe their lies. Also, the thing about politics is you don't really have to be smart or competent to get elected to office. You need a good team of PR guys and just tap into the collective psyche of your base and feed their paranoia and insecurities.

But then, at least some of them really are just that stupid. Watch this guy go into brain freeze for several seconds when trying to process the idea that there is no law requiring swearing on a bible:

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That right there is a deeply, deeply stupid man.

TragicMonkey · 29th January 2021, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

But then, at least some of them really are just that stupid. Watch this guy go into brain freeze for several seconds when trying to process the idea that there is no law requiring swearing on a bible:

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That right there is a deeply, deeply stupid man.

I find it cutely ironic that so many of the people who have the deepest faith in the Bible pronounce it as the "Babble".

dudalb · 29th January 2021, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

So that's why "Jewish Space Laser" is trending on Twitter this morning.

Damn, that would make a great card in the "Illumanatti" card game.

dudalb · 29th January 2021, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

I find it cutely ironic that so many of the people who have the deepest faith in the Bible pronounce it as the "Babble".

I despise Moore, but poking fun at his regional dialect is a bit much.
Unless you are trying to be Professor Henry Higgins...

dudalb · 29th January 2021, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

That's OK because it's still "Godly".

They already are for having elected her.

I would not bet money on that.

28th January 2021, 05:58 PM	#161
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,253	Originally Posted by Babbylonian That's a good theory, but IIRC the party did fund her primary opponent and she still won. Her district wanted a dangerous loon and they got one. That’s an election, however. In this case if the Democrats are getting ticked that a woman who talks gleefully of killing them along with belief is several conspiracies that are just embarrassing the GOP may decide defending her against removal is not a hill worth dying on.
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28th January 2021, 07:28 PM	#165
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28th January 2021, 08:10 PM	#166
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 25,064	I'd think David Hogg (the young man she accosted in the video) could develop a massive following. I haven't seen him in the media for quite some time, but the recent interview shows him with a Moses-level head of hair and practically channeling the WASP idealization of Jesus. He's articulate, charismatic, and obviously highly tolerant of ********.
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28th January 2021, 09:28 PM	#167
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,581	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger She was running around the Capitol hallways (caught on the news) insisting legislators had to swear in using the Bible and not the Koran and she was going to track them down and see if they would swear in on the Bible. Maybe she expected they would shrink away in fear lest they burst into flames. The reporters tried to tell her there was no requirement they had to swear in using a Bible but like all these nut-jobs she simply insisted they were wrong. I wished the reporters had followed up because I'd like to have seen the legislators the woman was trying to find laugh in her face. No one tell her that Jewish members are usually sworn in on Bibles containing only the Old Testament.....
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28th January 2021, 09:29 PM	#168
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,581	Originally Posted by Minoosh I wonder if she's going to do a good job for her constituents. I wouldn't think so, but a good staff can help. She is going to make her district the laughing stock of the country, ....
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28th January 2021, 06:35 PM	#162
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,881	Originally Posted by smartcooky Further confirmation (if any was needed) that she is a total whackjob! She was running around the Capitol hallways (caught on the news) insisting legislators had to swear in using the Bible and not the Koran and she was going to track them down and see if they would swear in on the Bible. Maybe she expected they would shrink away in fear lest they burst into flames. The reporters tried to tell her there was no requirement they had to swear in using a Bible but like all these nut-jobs she simply insisted they were wrong. I wished the reporters had followed up because I'd like to have seen the legislators the woman was trying to find laugh in her face.

28th January 2021, 06:45 PM	#163
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,881	Here we go (sorry if it's already posted): The Independent: Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their oaths on a Bible in a resurfaced video Quote: Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a QAnon-supporting Republican who is known for pushing conspiracy theories and making racists comments, previously tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their congressional oaths on the Bible. Video footage surfaced on Wednesday of Ms Greene walking through the halls of Congress prior to being elected as a Georgia representative. In the footage, she was claiming that Ms Omar and Ms Tlaib were illegitimate Democratic representatives because they took their oaths of office on the Quran instead of the Bible. It doesn't say what happened.

28th January 2021, 06:57 PM	#164
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,331	I wonder if she's going to do a good job for her constituents. I wouldn't think so, but a good staff can help.

28th January 2021, 09:31 PM	#169
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,581	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Here we go (sorry if it's already posted): The Independent: Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to force Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to retake their oaths on a Bible in a resurfaced videoIt doesn't say what happened. Anyone tell her about the Dem from Hawaii who is a Buddhist and was sworn in on the Buddhist Scriptures?
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28th January 2021, 11:28 PM	#170
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,229	Originally Posted by dudalb No one tell her that Jewish members are usually sworn in on Bibles containing only the Old Testament..... That's OK because it's still "Godly". Originally Posted by dudalb She is going to make her district the laughing stock of the country, .... They already are for having elected her.

28th January 2021, 11:55 PM	#171
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 17,208	Originally Posted by dudalb Anyone tell her about the Dem from Hawaii who is a Buddhist and was sworn in on the Buddhist Scriptures? You mean Mazie Hirono? Well, she's not the only one!
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29th January 2021, 12:11 AM	#172
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,998	Originally Posted by shemp Marjorie Taylor Greene penned conspiracy theory that a laser beam from space started deadly 2018 California wildfire So that's why "Jewish Space Laser" is trending on Twitter this morning.
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29th January 2021, 12:17 AM	#173
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,873	as so many like her, Marjorie is running around naked in a thunderstorm blaspheming, hoping to get struck by lightning to prove that God exists.
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29th January 2021, 12:22 AM	#174
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,229	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza as so many like her, Marjorie is running around naked in a thunderstorm blaspheming, hoping to get struck by lightning to prove that God exists. Hopefully, God will oblige her.

29th January 2021, 12:25 AM	#175
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,873	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Hopefully, God will oblige her. no, because that would prove her point. Better for her to get pneumonia.
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29th January 2021, 12:35 AM	#176
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 17,208	Originally Posted by Firestone So that's why "Jewish Laser beam" is trending on Twitter this morning. Yeah, next thing you'll be trying to tell me is that she is a 9/11 Truth "no planer".... Oh, wait https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...spiracy-theory
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29th January 2021, 12:37 AM	#177
Dragon Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,593	This is why I've enjoyed the JREF/ISF forums over the years - learning stuff. Often directly but also when branching off to other sources, Wikipedia in this case has an interesting page on the issue of taking the oath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_...tates_Congress How is it that prominent commentators or, worse, members of Congress can be so ignorant of the US Constitution? More likely they actually know that "no religious test shall ever be required..etc" and they are playing to a particular audience.
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29th January 2021, 01:19 AM	#179
Susheel Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 1,771	Originally Posted by Dragon How is it that prominent commentators or, worse, members of Congress can be so ignorant of the US Constitution? More likely they actually know that "no religious test shall ever be required..etc" and they are playing to a particular audience. They (at least most of them like Hawley and Cruz) aren't ignorant. They are willing to lie because they know that their primary base is dumb enough to believe their lies. Also, the thing about politics is you don't really have to be smart or competent to get elected to office. You need a good team of PR guys and just tap into the collective psyche of your base and feed their paranoia and insecurities.
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29th January 2021, 03:29 AM	#182
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 32,763	GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser Quote: Axios has a small squib about “The Mischief Makers,” a handful of idiosyncratic congressional backbenchers who make trouble for their respective party leadership. The leading Democratic mischief-maker is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who advocates some left-wing views I consider simplistic and impractical and, in some cases, poll badly. The top example of a conservative mischief-maker, presented in perfect symmetry, is Marjorie Taylor Greene. Greene’s views are just a bit more controversial. They include, but are by no means limited to, the following: • The QAnon conspiracy theory, which holds that Donald Trump is secretly fighting a worldwide child-sex-slavery ring that was supposed to culminate in the mass arrest of his political opposition, is “worth listening to.” • Muslims don’t belong in government. • 9/11 was an inside job. • Shootings at Parkland, Sandy Hook, and Las Vegas were staged. • “Zionist supremacists” are secretly masterminding Muslim immigration to Europe in a scheme to outbreed white people. • Leading Democratic officials should be executed. The most recent Greene view to be unearthed comes via Eric Hananoki. Just over two years ago, Greene suggested in a Facebook post that wildfires in California were not natural. Forests don’t just catch fire, you know. Rather, the blazes had been started by PG&E, in conjunction with the Rothschilds, using a space laser, in order to clear room for a high-speed rail project. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...d-execute.html

29th January 2021, 03:44 AM	#183
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,617	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...d-execute.html Is she alone in believing some or all of those things or are there other GOP House and Senate members who are on record saying similar things ?

29th January 2021, 06:28 AM	#184
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 32,763	Caelum non sufficit Motto of the Jewish Space Laser Command

29th January 2021, 06:33 AM	#185
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,998	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Caelum non sufficit Motto of the Jewish Space Laser Command You think (((we))) have a Latin Motto? Also, who leaked this?
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29th January 2021, 07:25 AM	#186
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,540	Greene is scrubbing past social media posts. Quote: Marjorie Taylor Greene's account has deleted 19 tweets in the last 12 hours. Greene is also scrubbing her Facebook of old posts and videos from 2018 and 2019 where she spread conspiracies and endorsed violence against Democratic lawmakers. https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1354821456811630596
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29th January 2021, 07:25 AM	#187
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 20,228	Originally Posted by Minoosh I wonder if she's going to do a good job for her constituents. I wouldn't think so, but a good staff can help. In what respect do you think she doesn't represent her constituents? Saw a bit this morning on how someone interviewed people from her district. They were asked how they felt about the conspiracy theories. The response? Noah was accused of believing in conspiracy theories, too. Who can tell what's right?
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29th January 2021, 08:03 AM	#189
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 13,014	Originally Posted by Susheel They (at least most of them like Hawley and Cruz) aren't ignorant. They are willing to lie because they know that their primary base is dumb enough to believe their lies. Also, the thing about politics is you don't really have to be smart or competent to get elected to office. You need a good team of PR guys and just tap into the collective psyche of your base and feed their paranoia and insecurities. Let's just note that Hawley graduated from Yale Law School, Cruz from Harvard, and they both clerked for Supreme Court justices. They do understand the Constitution. They just don't like it.

29th January 2021, 08:13 AM	#190
turingtest Mistral, mistral wind... Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Embedded and embattled, reporting from Mississippi Posts: 4,735	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Greene is scrubbing past social media posts. https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1354821456811630596 Honestly- why would she think that would help? It's bad enough to have said (and believed) stupid things that make you look like a fool; but trying to erase them from an internet that never forgets is just admitting loudly that you know they were stupid things and that you're a fool.
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29th January 2021, 10:28 AM	#191
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,586	Originally Posted by dudalb No one tell her that Jewish members are usually sworn in on Bibles containing only the Old Testament..... I'd like to see her try to get Kustoff and Zeldin to swear on the Christian bible and see how that played.
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29th January 2021, 10:40 AM	#192
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,881	Originally Posted by pgwenthold In what respect do you think she doesn't represent her constituents? Saw a bit this morning on how someone interviewed people from her district. They were asked how they felt about the conspiracy theories. The response? Noah was accused of believing in conspiracy theories, too. Who can tell what's right? So Noah conspired with God? I don't think they understand the difference between a prediction (not that it's any less insane) and a CT. Once one of these memes gets started, everyone of that ilk uses it, like Rand Paul claiming the impeachment trial of Trump is unconstitutional.

29th January 2021, 10:42 AM	#193
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,881	Originally Posted by Bob001 Let's just note that Hawley graduated from Yale Law School, Cruz from Harvard, and they both clerked for Supreme Court justices. They do understand the Constitution. They just don't ~~like it~~ [give a rats ass about lying about it]. ftfy

29th January 2021, 10:46 AM	#194
Regnad Kcin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 10,269	Originally Posted by turingtest Honestly- why would she think that would help? It's bad enough to have said (and believed) stupid things that make you look like a fool; but trying to erase them from an internet that never forgets is just admitting loudly that you know they were stupid things and that you're a fool. I've found the trouble with your carburetor, Mrs. Ferguson.
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29th January 2021, 10:47 AM	#195
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 20,228	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger So Noah conspired with God? I don't think they understand the difference between a prediction (not that it's any less insane) and a CT. No, I interpreted it as "God is going to destroy the world" is the conspiracy theory that Noah believed, and all his friends mocked him. They put "Jews used lasers to start wildfires" as equivalent to the claim "God is going to destroy the world." Granted, so do I, but they actually think the second one is true so we can't rule out the possibility of the former.
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29th January 2021, 11:21 AM	#198
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,581	Originally Posted by Firestone So that's why "Jewish Space Laser" is trending on Twitter this morning. Damn, that would make a great card in the "Illumanatti" card game.
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29th January 2021, 11:29 AM	#199
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,581	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey I find it cutely ironic that so many of the people who have the deepest faith in the Bible pronounce it as the "Babble". I despise Moore, but poking fun at his regional dialect is a bit much. Unless you are trying to be Professor Henry Higgins...
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29th January 2021, 11:31 AM	#200
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,581	Originally Posted by Stacyhs That's OK because it's still "Godly". They already are for having elected her. I would not bet money on that.
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