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Old 1st December 2016, 07:32 AM   #241
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Is the assertion that there has been a massive wave of graffitiing Buddhists or Shintoists?
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Old 1st December 2016, 07:43 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
Is the assertion that there has been a massive wave of graffitiing Buddhists or Shintoists?
See, there it is again. The complete transformation of one argument to mean something much larger.

The thing I was addressing was "most of the world see swastikas as X". That's it. Nothing else.
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Old 1st December 2016, 07:44 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
Is the assertion that there has been a massive wave of graffitiing Buddhists or Shintoists?
Hirohito was right.

Sushi is delicious.

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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
See, there it is again. The complete transformation of one argument to mean something much larger.

The thing I was addressing was "most of the world see swastikas as X". That's it. Nothing else.
So that is why hitler themed resturants are poping up in India and hitler weddings in Korea.

http://www.vice.com/read/nazis-chic-...hion-craze-456
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
See, there it is again. The complete transformation of one argument to mean something much larger.

The thing I was addressing was "most of the world see swastikas as X". That's it. Nothing else.
I know. I was joshing you.

Should have used an emoticon.
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Old 1st December 2016, 08:00 AM   #246
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
I know. I was joshing you.

Should have used an emoticon.
Nicely done.
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Old 1st December 2016, 08:01 AM   #247
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
So that is why hitler themed resturants are poping up in India and hitler weddings in Korea.

http://www.vice.com/read/nazis-chic-...hion-craze-456
No, I assume they just don't have the visceral negative reaction to the Nazi imagery. To be fair, the Nazis knew how to dress and design stuff. It's a bit spoiled by the mass murder and stuff, though.
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
No, I assume they just don't have the visceral negative reaction to the Nazi imagery. To be fair, the Nazis knew how to dress and design stuff. It's a bit spoiled by the mass murder and stuff, though.
The packaging was better than the product, that's for sure.

Hitler and Nazi imagery are popular in India and Thailand. Can't blame them, it's a distance thing.
We had a department store here sell products with Mao on them, until there were complaints.
There's a flower pot shop in Amsterdam called Pol's Pots. I kid you not.
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Old 1st December 2016, 09:24 AM   #249
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dane View Post
The packaging was better than the product, that's for sure.

Hitler and Nazi imagery are popular in India and Thailand. Can't blame them, it's a distance thing.
We had a department store here sell products with Mao on them, until there were complaints.
They still sell Che Guevara shirts, don't they?

And confederate flags.

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There's a flower pot shop in Amsterdam called Pol's Pots. I kid you not.
Hilarious.
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So even when they are used in exactly the same fashion to achieve the same results you fail to see any equivalence? What messages can be used to intimidate someone that is bad and what can you ignore as just trolling?

If they wanted everyone to dismiss them as trolls they should have kept it to the basic rape and death threats.
So we have a mind reader or clairvoyant person... And with some set of "odd" suggestions.

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Depends what you mean by "most of the world", given that it's used as a religious symbol in China, India, Japan and other places in asia.
I was mostly thinking about excluding India. Didn't think it was that widespread.

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Hmm, given the eye in your avatar you seem more likely to be the supervillainess Evil Eye to me.
Nah, I am going by trope "Red is heroic" or at least subversion and by "Dark Is not evil".
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Looks like we have another one

I'm sure somebody caught this on their phone and is uploading the footage to YouTube as we speak.
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So we have a mind reader or clairvoyant person... And with some set of "odd" suggestions.
Rape and death threats are trolling 101 level stuff. So what makes the death threat of burning a cross in someones lawn so much worse? It should be treated as only the petty vandalism it is.

We excuse so many rape and death threats why treat some of them as ever being important?
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Looks like we have another one

I'm sure somebody caught this on their phone and is uploading the footage to YouTube as we speak.
Don't read the comments. oye.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
They can't have been that racist, since they played together for years without noticing. To me, the moral of this story is that even racists can be tolerant and supportive team players.

Maybe racism isn't such a grave sin after all. Everybody is some kind of bigot. All we can ask of each other is that we keep it to ourselves and show basic respect in mixed company.

But I'm guessing the way your wife tells the story, none of her students ever realized that for years, these racists treated her not like an inferior other, but like a teammate. And none of her students ever reflected on what that might say about racism as a social issue.
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Yeah ponderingturtle,
Have your wife ponder that for a while.
In other words, if when playing sports no overt racism is expressed, that means all the "minor" issues are solved as well, such when a minority attempts to move into a majority neighborhood, dares to try marrying into a majority family, or applies for a job.... Brilliant! How wonderfully simple! This 'pondering' sure has deepity.
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Checking in on the massive wave of hate crimes against minorities.

Can I get an update on the death toll?
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dane View Post
Checking in on the massive wave of hate crimes against minorities.

Can I get an update on the death toll?
Death toll?
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How's that massive wave of hate crimes coming along?
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dane View Post
Checking in on the massive wave of hate crimes against minorities.

Can I get an update on the death toll?
Why don't harassment and threats count? Why do only deaths count?


But good to know you are so cool with threats and harassment. Those people deserve it.
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Why don't harassment and threats count? Why do only deaths count?


But good to know you are so cool with threats and harassment. Those people deserve it.
Those who are not alarmist, must be racist.
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Those who are not alarmist, must be racist.
He did pose a question, which you dodged. I'd like an answer as well. Why do only deaths count?
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He did pose a question, which you dodged. I'd like an answer as well. Why do only deaths count?
It's a "massive" wave.

We could do it like tsunamis. There's an earthquake and a massive tsunami is predicted. One expects consequences. I suppose you could measure property damage too.

Or, what's easier, is just to redefine "massive" to mean whatever actually happens. "More than normal" will do in a pinch.

Now I have a massive headache. You know, what used to be called a "minor twinge."
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How's that massive wave of hate crimes coming along?
Good news, there's been a bust in one of these reported hate crimes.

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This massive wave might be even more massive that we're currently led to believe

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Originally Posted by Stout View Post
Good news, there's been a bust in one of these reported hate crimes.

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This massive wave might be even more massive that we're currently led to believe

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Well, that's all well and good then. Nothing to worry about. As long as we close our eyes and cover our ears, nothing can happen.

Or did you wish to say something else? Are all the reported attacks false flags by African Americans?
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Well, that's all well and good then. Nothing to worry about. As long as we close our eyes and cover our ears, nothing can happen.

Or did you wish to say something else? Are all the reported attacks false flags by African Americans?
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought a little dose of reality would be appreciated on a skeptic's board but if it's stories of (presumably ) white people behaving badly, then it's the story of Pat and Joe in Cincinnati you need
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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought a little dose of reality would be appreciated on a skeptic's board but if it's stories of (presumably ) white people behaving badly, then it's the story of Pat and Joe in Cincinnati you need
Exactly all of those we know are popping up must be the results of shifty darkies. It is just like blacks after all always making up discrimination. Why in the old days you never heard any of them signing the blues, just ask Phil Robertson or Cliven Bundy.
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My Spanish mother-in-law was debating with a white neighbor about the election (she is against Trump). The argument ended friendly enough but later the neighbor just had to point out that "they were here first". I'm no historian but I'm pretty sure the Spanish were in America before the Brits.
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My Spanish mother-in-law was debating with a white neighbor about the election (she is against Trump). The argument ended friendly enough but later the neighbor just had to point out that "they were here first". I'm no historian but I'm pretty sure the Spanish were in America before the Brits.
That's a hell of a massive hate crime wave your mother in law is dealing with.
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My Spanish mother-in-law was debating with a white neighbor about the election (she is against Trump). The argument ended friendly enough but later the neighbor just had to point out that "they were here first". I'm no historian but I'm pretty sure the Spanish were in America before the Brits.
That would depend what part of "America" you are in.

Heck, the French were here (Chicago) before the Spanish and the British
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How's that massive wave of hate crimes coming along?
From the stuff posted upthread, it appears there was a spike right after the election, then a quick return to roughly normal levels.

So it's stalled. Let's hope it doesn't return on swearing in.
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Too bad for him she was an off-duty NYPD officer.

A female Muslim NYC transit worker was shoved down a flight of stairs by a man who shouted "You’re a terrorist, go back to your own country!”
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Well, that's all well and good then. Nothing to worry about. As long as we close our eyes and cover our ears, nothing can happen.

Or did you wish to say something else? Are all the reported attacks false flags by African Americans?
I'm confident not all are by African-Americans
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From the stuff posted upthread, it appears there was a spike right after the election, then a quick return to roughly normal levels.

So it's stalled. Let's hope it doesn't return on swearing in.


Past peak wave?
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Even politicians aren't safe.
The first Somali-American legislator, Minnesota state representative-elect Ilhan Omar, was harassed by a cab driver in Washington, DC on her way from the White House, where she'd been attending a meeting about policy ideas, last Tuesday.
The cab driver "called me ISIS and threatened to remove my hijab", said Omar who described his words as "the most hateful, derogatory, islamophobic, sexist taunts and threats I have ever experienced".

The deplorables are at it again.
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Even politicians aren't safe.
The first Somali-American legislator, Minnesota state representative-elect Ilhan Omar, was harassed by a cab driver in Washington, DC on her way from the White House, where she'd been attending a meeting about policy ideas, last Tuesday.
The cab driver "called me ISIS and threatened to remove my hijab", said Omar who described his words as "the most hateful, derogatory, islamophobic, sexist taunts and threats I have ever experienced".

The deplorables are at it again.
No, the deplorables have been at it all along.

The spurious point of this thread is that there has been a rise in the rate. I think that is un-falsifiable at the level of verbal insults.
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Anyone with a can of paint or a sharpie can vandalize a wall with a swastika. My money is on the special snowflakes that didn't get their way in the election trying to stir up sympathy.

There are ******** and racists out there, but no more than before the election and on both sides of the fence.
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Yasmin Seweid is reported as missing
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The article has an update saying she's been found safe.
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Originally Posted by Stout View Post
Cool story Sis'.

Why would the original story be given consideration as news? Any, non provable statement is now taken as proof unto itself?
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Old 10th December 2016, 01:29 PM   #280
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It's part of the massive wave, mon.

This should have you sitting on the edge of your seat gnawing your fingernails with worry.
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