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Old 9th June 2019, 06:07 AM   #881
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
that's news to me.
Why don't you quote a post of mine that would support this?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=878

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...I have been a fan of Avenatti, and I have no problem with him getting 30 years.
I assume, then, that you meant to type "I have never been a fan of Avenatti"?

Whatever, just try and watch Don Lemon or Bill Maher (among so many other idiots) nuzzling Avenetti's ringpiece a mere few months ago without cringing.
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Old 9th June 2019, 03:00 PM   #882
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
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I assume, then, that you meant to type "I have never been a fan of Avenatti"?

Whatever, just try and watch Don Lemon or Bill Maher (among so many other idiots) nuzzling Avenetti's ringpiece a mere few months ago without cringing.
The immediately obvious comparison/conclusion to make:

Avenetti supporters learn from mistakes; Trump supporters are ineducable brainwashed morons.
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Old 17th January 2020, 02:27 AM   #883
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Michael Avenatti ordered to stay in jail as his criminal trials begin

He was (allegedly) continuing to commit more crimes while out on bail.

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A federal judge revoked the bail of Los Angeles attorney Michael Avenatti on Wednesday and ordered him jailed while awaiting trial on three indictments, saying new allegations of fraud and money laundering show he poses a danger to the public.

Judge James V. Selna of U.S. District Court in Santa Ana agreed with prosecutors that it appeared Avenatti had broken federal and state laws by hiding $1 million from one of his ex-wives and other creditors after his arrest in March.

Avenatti was escorted out of the courtroom by a uniformed U.S. marshal. His first criminal trial, on charges that he tried to extort more than $20 million from sports giant Nike, is set to begin this month in New York federal court.

Avenatti was taken into custody Tuesday afternoon at a California State Bar Court hearing. The state bar is seeking to block him from practicing law while he faces bank fraud, tax evasion and other charges in the three federal indictments. Prosecutors have accused him of stealing millions from his own clients.
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In the new court papers, prosecutors describe elaborate steps Avenatti allegedly took to hide the $1 million he received five weeks after his arrest last year by shifting it through multiple bank accounts and splitting it into a carefully timed sequence of cashier’s checks.
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Old 17th January 2020, 03:44 AM   #884
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But he is still running for President, right?
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Old 17th January 2020, 04:23 AM   #885
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He is a right sleaze bag, him and Trump were made for each other. Surprised Trump hasn't offered him job.
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Old 17th January 2020, 05:29 AM   #886
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Avenatti had a very bad day. Got arrested by the feds for bail violations for one of his two federal criminal trials (on opposite coasts, for convenience) while attending his bar trial to see if he would lose his license (he did).

It seems like this guy was spinning plates for years with all his various schemes and they have all come collapsing down spectacularly.
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Old 17th January 2020, 08:49 AM   #887
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I was just thinking about this thread the other day but never got around to seeing what was happening with him.

Almost makes me miss TBD. Except he did not seem to understand that nobody here really cared for Avenatti.
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Old 18th January 2020, 12:30 AM   #888
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I was just thinking about this thread the other day but never got around to seeing what was happening with him.

Almost makes me miss TBD. Except he did not seem to understand that nobody here really cared for Avenatti.
That blindspot was pretty funny. Thought he was scoring one over the libs.
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Old 18th January 2020, 05:43 AM   #889
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I was just thinking about this thread the other day but never got around to seeing what was happening with him.

Almost makes me miss TBD. Except he did not seem to understand that nobody here really cared for Avenatti.
I think he has to face justice for what he's done and alleged to have done. That said, he was the gutter rat America needed to go after our gutter rat president. For that, the nation owes him a debt of gratitude. It does not excuse his other criminal behavior.
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Old 18th January 2020, 07:32 AM   #890
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I think he has to face justice for what he's done and alleged to have done. That said, he was the gutter rat America needed to go after our gutter rat president. For that, the nation owes him a debt of gratitude. It does not excuse his other criminal behavior.
Seems like you needed a gutter rat that could (a) stay after Trump for more than two and a half news cycles, and (b) could actually make something stick.
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Seems like you needed a gutter rat that could (a) stay after Trump for more than two and a half news cycles, and (b) could actually make something stick.
Trump isn't out of office yet and he could still be indicted over the payments to Stormy. It may stick yet.
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Old 18th January 2020, 11:49 AM   #892
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Trump isn't out of office yet and he could still be indicted over the payments to Stormy. It may stick yet.
Indicted by whom? Daniel's suit wasn't a criminal prosecution.
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The payment violated campaign finance laws and is the reason Cohen when to prison. Trump was a coconspirator.
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Old 18th January 2020, 12:14 PM   #894
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The payment violated campaign finance laws and is the reason Cohen when to prison. Trump was a coconspirator.
That won't happen. It won't happen while he's president and if he's defeated no one will care.

Just as his supporters don't care that he paid off a porn star who he shagged while his wife was home with their new baby boy.
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Old 18th January 2020, 12:31 PM   #895
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The payment violated campaign finance laws and is the reason Cohen when to prison. Trump was a coconspirator.
Nobody has brought such charges. Nobody has sought any such indictment.
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Old 18th January 2020, 03:40 PM   #896
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Nobody has brought such charges. Nobody has sought any such indictment.
But they could.
Any time they want.
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Old 18th January 2020, 03:47 PM   #897
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Nobody has brought such charges. Nobody has sought any such indictment.
Because the DOJ's policy is not to indict a sitting president?
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Old 18th January 2020, 09:32 PM   #898
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Lock him up.
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Old 19th January 2020, 12:47 PM   #899
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Trump isn't out of office yet and he could still be indicted over the payments to Stormy. It may stick yet.
Won't happen. As much as I believe Trump certainly has committed crimes and deserves to serve time for his actions, there is precedent that sets which scares politicians. Unless it can be proven that Trump killed or was involved in killing someone, they are never going to put a former POTUS behind bars.
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If he's removed, Pence will pardon him. If he loses, he'll pardon himself.
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Old 14th February 2020, 12:52 PM   #901
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Guilty on all counts, and more trials to come.

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Avenatti was charged with transmission of interstate communications with intent to extort, attempted extortion and honest services wire fraud.

He still faces two additional trials for allegedly stealing Stormy Daniels' book advance and committing fraud in California. He is being held in jail for allegedly violating the terms of his bail in the California case.
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Old 14th February 2020, 01:04 PM   #902
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Guilty on all counts, and more trials to come.
Womp womp.
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Old 14th February 2020, 01:31 PM   #903
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Guilty on all counts, and more trials to come.
So should we expect Trump to start tweeting about how the length of his sentence is too long, and how what Avenatti did wasn't really that serious?

I think this says so much about the Democrats and Republicans...

Avenatti may have had some association with the Democrats, but they recognize that he did a crime and should pay. Stone was associated with the republicans, and after his conviction, the republican party jumps in to try to limit his sentence.
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The early pages of this thread is a good example of why an "Enemy of my Enemy Is My Friend" is often a dumb strategy.
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Old 14th February 2020, 01:39 PM   #905
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Avenatti is the kind of lawyer Trump wants.
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Avenatti is the kind of lawyer Trump wants has.
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Old 15th February 2020, 07:34 AM   #907
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https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...primary-219910


Michael Avenatti Is Winning the 2020 Democratic Primary
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Michael Avenatti Is Winning the 2020 Democratic Primary
Since it's you, I'm guessing that this is supposed to be some kind of "owning the libs" post. That makes me think that it's intended to be posted as a kind of "ha! Look how wrong this article from 2 years ago was!" And that just makes me think that you didn't read past the headline.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong in any of those suppositions.
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Let's take a moment to look back (and laugh) at the media adoration of Avanatti.

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The early pages of this thread is a good example of why an "Enemy of my Enemy Is My Friend" is often a dumb strategy.
I skimmed the first few pages to see how embarrassed I should be.

All I really felt was sad that TBD couldn't be here to gloat a bit about his wet dreams coming true. He poured his heart and soul into proving to us that Thirsty was a bad hombre, and now it seems the wheels of justice have finally proved our obese canine friend right.

And all we did was joke about the boy and and his obsession. That wasn't very polite of us.

And . . . now I'm over it.
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Let's take a moment to look back (and laugh) at the media adoration of Avanatti.

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Still more qualified than Trump.
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Still more qualified than Trump.
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You gotta admit, Avenatti really rode the currents of resistance lib hysteria like a pro. It is pretty notable that wide swaths of the country decided this slimey lawyer was some hero just because he was sticking it to Trump.

In the end, the fraudster was simply spinning too many plates and it eventually came crashing down.
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Let's not forget Avenatti's own predictions about the future.
Donald Trump Jr. will be indicted before his birthday on 12-31-18. If you doubt my prediction, please check my record over the last 7 months. #Winning
Winning like Charlie Sheen.
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Yeah, its funny because your president is a grifting buffoon too.
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He poured his heart and soul into proving to us that Thirsty was a bad hombre, and now it seems the wheels of justice have finally proved our obese canine friend right.

And all we did was joke about the boy and and his obsession. That wasn't very polite of us.

I think al it shows is that you can be right and still be a bad person. Avenatti was right about Cohen's illegal campaign contributions to Trump. He produced evidence that could not be interpreted any other way.

Try as he might, TBD could not give a coherent explanation of how the Daniels payments were legal. He could not explain how the unsigned NDA was legal. Nor could he explain how Avenatti's other troubles made the Daniels allegations less true.

It turned out rather quickly that Avenatti had serious legal and ethical problems of his own, and he let his own fame lead him into even worse behavior.

But I never considered Avenatti a saint and never believed anything just because he said it.

The world isn't black and white. Avenatti wasn't about wrong about the Daniels allegations because he was a crook. Sometimes bad people do good things. TBD has not been vindicated, nor has anyone who believed Stormy Daniels been proven wrong.
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I skimmed the first few pages to see how embarrassed I should be.

All I really felt was sad that TBD couldn't be here to gloat a bit about his wet dreams coming true. He poured his heart and soul into proving to us that Thirsty was a bad hombre, and now it seems the wheels of justice have finally proved our obese canine friend right.

And all we did was joke about the boy and and his obsession. That wasn't very polite of us.

And . . . now I'm over it.
the primary purpose of this thread was to serve as a shinny object to keep posts about Avenatti from derailing another thread. The curious part was this thread lasted far longer than the one I was trying to keep clear of this junk.
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Avenatti has an uphill climb ahead of him. Nike was his least sympathetic victim. Avenatti still has to face his other trials for ripping off his clients, which includes Stormy Daniels and a disabled man that allegedly lost his social security benefits due to Avenatti's fraud.
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I think al it shows is that you can be right and still be a bad person. Avenatti was right about Cohen's illegal campaign contributions to Trump. He produced evidence that could not be interpreted any other way.

Try as he might, TBD could not give a coherent explanation of how the Daniels payments were legal. He could not explain how the unsigned NDA was legal. Nor could he explain how Avenatti's other troubles made the Daniels allegations less true.

It turned out rather quickly that Avenatti had serious legal and ethical problems of his own, and he let his own fame lead him into even worse behavior.

But I never considered Avenatti a saint and never believed anything just because he said it.

The world isn't black and white. Avenatti wasn't about wrong about the Daniels allegations because he was a crook. Sometimes bad people do good things. TBD has not been vindicated, nor has anyone who believed Stormy Daniels been proven wrong.
Agreed.

I would only add that Avenatti could only seem effective when set against Cohen and Trump.

Now the question is, between Cohen and Avenatti, who will spend more time in jail?
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Agreed.

I would only add that Avenatti could only seem effective when set against Cohen and Trump.

Now the question is, between Cohen and Avenatti, who will spend more time in jail?
Almost certainly Avenatti. He may get more time for the charge he's already lost than Cohen got total, and he has more cases ahead of him he is likely to lose. Double digit jail time seems likely.
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