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Old 12th February 2020, 06:35 PM   #1921
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0/2 still equals 0.
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Old 12th February 2020, 06:44 PM   #1922
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
There's not the slightest chance of flipping the Senate to the point of having a 2/3 majority.
Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
... not with that attitude...
Or any attitude. Seriously, look it up. Chances are there'll be no change. Or a Republican increase, with Jeff Sessions replacing the D in Georgia.
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But even a simple majority would let them set the rules regarding witnesses and documents. IOW, have a real trial.

Would not get him removed, but would at least expose more wrongdoing.
Meh. There's plenty exposed already, and he's still there.
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Because the more you explain, the less funny any joke becomes.
Especially if it wasn't funny to start with and made no sense.
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Old 12th February 2020, 09:00 PM   #1923
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
But why remove his twin?
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Twins aren't just related. And yeah, you gotta read a little bit into it, just like you have to read a bit into "I'm a locksmith". But it's not that hard. Give it a try.
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I'm having to read a lot into your explanation to make any logical sense of it...and not succeeding.

What you're basically saying is the Yevgeny had to be fired from his post negatively affecting his long and honorable career, not because of anything he's done, but because he's a twin...which is somehow more 'special' than just being related.
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No. There is no "had to be fired" involved. The question was why he was fired, not why or even if he had to be.
Um...no.
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Old 12th February 2020, 09:05 PM   #1924
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
For a moment there, it looked like you might actually open your mind a little bit to the possibility that people don't all fit within neat little boxes. But nope, can't have that.
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But a lot of them do. Turn the handle on the box marked " Petty, Vindictive Pathological Liar/Emotionally Stunted Extreme Narcissist" and Trump springs out.
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People not fitting into neat little boxes wasn't in reference to Trump, it was in reference to me. I'm not in the least bit surprised you missed that fact.
If you could point out to me exactly where I said Trump was the person you were referring to you might have a leg to stand on with your snarky reply. But you can't so you don't.
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Old 13th February 2020, 02:13 AM   #1925
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Because the more you explain, the less funny any joke becomes.
You yourself said that the joke wasn't funny anyway, so...
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Old 13th February 2020, 03:12 AM   #1926
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Hard to see how explaining it could make it less funny.
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Old 13th February 2020, 03:39 AM   #1927
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
Hard to see how explaining it could make it less funny.
The saddest thing is that Leslie Neilson line from Police Squad! is one of my all time favourite one liners (second only to "Eat one lousy foot and they call you a cannibal").
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Old 13th February 2020, 03:22 PM   #1928
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Trump's come up with the solution, anyway: End the practice of keeping records of and having people listen in to his calls with foreign leaders
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Old 13th February 2020, 03:25 PM   #1929
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Time for republicans in congress to put on their concerned face...
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Old 13th February 2020, 03:41 PM   #1930
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Because the more you explain, the less funny any joke becomes.
It was never much of a joke in the first place. Sorry.


Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Especially if it wasn't funny to start with and made no sense.
It made sense, but it still wasn't that funny.
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Old 13th February 2020, 03:47 PM   #1931
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
It was never much of a joke in the first place. Sorry.
I have no objection to that conclusion.
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Old 13th February 2020, 09:40 PM   #1932
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Wrong thread.
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Old 15th February 2020, 03:26 AM   #1933
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...23660457480194

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I’m seeing Governor Cuomo today at The White House. He must understand that National Security far exceeds politics. New York must stop all of its unnecessary lawsuits & harrassment, start cleaning itself up, and lowering taxes. Build relationships, but don’t bring Fredo!
https://twitter.com/RepDonBeyer/stat...553374209?s=20

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The President says if New York will stop investigating potential crimes he committed he will restore the global entry status he denied them for reasons which are now plain for all to see.

Senate Republicans protected a corrupt President who operates by shakedown and extortion.
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Old 15th February 2020, 10:37 PM   #1934
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Am I seeing a quid pro quo here?
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Old 15th February 2020, 10:51 PM   #1935
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
Am I seeing a quid pro quo here?
An attempt at openly creating one via extortion, fairly certainly.
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Old 15th February 2020, 10:58 PM   #1936
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Trump is seen as non-judgemental?
Trump is fine because he only judges people that his supporters don't like, whereas Democrats are judging them.
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Old 15th February 2020, 11:33 PM   #1937
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Trump is fine because he only judges people that his supporters don't like, whereas Democrats are judging them.
...And if he judges a person that they previously liked, they then don't like the person?
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Old 16th February 2020, 02:23 AM   #1938
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...And if he judges a person that they previously liked, they then don't like the person?
Ask Anthony Scaramucci, General Kelly, John Bolton, James Comey, Gordon Sondland, Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson...
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Old 16th February 2020, 05:43 AM   #1939
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The army has announced that it will not be investigating Vindman over his impeachment testimony
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Old 16th February 2020, 09:40 AM   #1940
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House lawyers attempting going through the courts to try to get Trump's tax returns have filed a motion using Trump's impeachment lawyers own arguments
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Old 16th February 2020, 09:55 AM   #1941
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Yeah and the Navy said they would not give Chief Galligahar his rank back after the Navy busted him down to 1st Class. How did that work out?

He's Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the head of the Executive Branch, and a massive petulant child. If he wants Vidman investigated Vidman will be investigated.
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Old 16th February 2020, 11:53 AM   #1942
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I think that it's worth pointing out, specifically and again, that the fact that such even needs to be announced is pretty much utterly insane.
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Old 16th February 2020, 01:06 PM   #1943
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Bwahahahahahah,
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Space Force.
Because feeding poor people is socialism.
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Bwa all you want. It won't make any difference. We still won't see his tax returns.
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Old 16th February 2020, 05:01 PM   #1945
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Bwa all you want. It won't make any difference. We still won't see his tax returns.
Some day you will.
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Some day you will.
With the luck we've been having the Democrats will finally get their hands on Trump's tax returns and a day later have to sheepishly tell him they discovered he's owed a refund.
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Bwa all you want. It won't make any difference. We still won't see his tax returns.
We'll see. The IRS has copies so Trump can't just defy the court order.
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Old 16th February 2020, 06:36 PM   #1948
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A President firing everyone who is not a a yes-man should make everyone extremely concerned.
Yes!
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