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Old 5th February 2020, 05:51 PM   #161
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"I didn't see her do it. I found out just a few moments later, and I think it was a new low. I wasn't sure if she was ripping up the speech or ripping up the Constitution," Pence said in an interview on "Fox & Friends."
What a sack of excrement.
There's a pic out today with Trump using a sharpie to write, "Me" over the We in We the People.

Pence is so disgusting. He probably does think Trump's speech was like the Constitution.
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Old 5th February 2020, 05:51 PM   #162
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Pelosi ripping the speech up? Not really the biggest deal. Her and Trump literally havent spoken in direct communication since the impeachment inquiry started. Pelosi is one of the central figures that pressed forward the impeachment articles... trump is the one that was being impeached. They view eachother as poison... pretty obvious. On it's own, her move was just a statement. She knew she was on camera. She did it as a gesture to her base.

As a message to her base itll be spun as either nothing or as a nice "**** you" gesture to Trump and his speach.

To Trumps base itll be spun as her being a sour sport.

I dont view it too deeply. But given the caucus debacle, impeachment article delivery delays, and that it doesnt really help her optics unless you interpret the actions as being appropriate. I guess it is depending on how you spin it
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:07 PM   #163
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Even if I’m not a Pelosi fan, I like what she did.

There is way too much “pomp and circumstance” when it comes to the people we elect as leaders.

When I was a kid, I remember watching one of Regan’s SOTU addresses. I had a concept of Republican vs Democrat at the time and I asked my Dad something like, “Why is everyone clapping and yelling for him when some people don’t like him?” My dad replied something about, “Respect for the Office, if not the person.” Even then I remember thinking, “********! They should be telling him how they really feel!”
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:27 PM   #164
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Tweeting "Yas Queen!" as my eyes go dark and death overtakes me.



Resistance libs are seriously mentally unwell.
Yes, how DARE we love our county and hate fascism?
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:29 PM   #165
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One should expect some professionalism in a Nationally Broadcasted speech from Both Sides. It's petty and Unprofessional on her part, yes. And yes as a country we know she's not a Trumper, but she can be professional nonethelss.
Respect is earned, not given. Trump doesn't deserve respect and this time he got what he deserved.

And the whiny GOP snowflakes are STILL clutching their pearls...
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:34 PM   #166
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Accepting the president's constitutionally mandated status report is the same as signing the Enabling Act? TDS, ladies and gentlemen.
Treating an illegitimate "president" as if he WERE actually President is capitulation.
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:40 PM   #167
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Your midsent represents 60% of the Political Divide in the country and will never acknowledge it, but by all means yell at cspan all day, getting all that awareness raised.
I don't make common cause with fascists and I hope the Democrats never do.

We need a wholesale purge of the GOP from our society. Cut the cancer out and save the American body.
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:43 PM   #168
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Twitter misses your insight.
Nope. Already rebuilding my following. May take me awhile, but I'll get there.

Burner email accounts are a wonderful thing...if Jack won't play by the rules, I feel no compulsion to do so...
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:45 PM   #169
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Regarding the Iowa caucuses, Greg Gutfeld said, "This was the Democrats' first day of school and they showed up in their underwear." LOL.

Anyway, Pelosi tore up the paper because Trump is winning on all fronts and she's got nothing left except hissy fits. Of course, loser Pelosi knew her fake news media arm would paint it as a brilliant strategic move. Durham is coming, and it isn't going to be pretty for the Dems. Pretty much all downhill for them, culminating in an inevitable November collapse, with Americans being unwilling to swap a great president and economy for Comrade Bernie and his disastrous socialist plans.
Every act of defiance is one more chip in the fascist's armor. ALL loyal Americans must do what they can when they can, without mercy or quarter to oppose the treasonous GOP.
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Old 5th February 2020, 06:48 PM   #170
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Impeachment was a long and ugly battle with Pelosi leading the Dems in an attempt to undo the election of Trump and losing big.
It ain't over. We still have the Mueller Report to charge him with.
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Old 5th February 2020, 07:36 PM   #171
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BREAKING NEWS: PELOSI PLANNED TO RIP UP THE SPEECH ALL ALONG!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ip-speech.html
Democrats will ignore this deliberately pre-planned act of political sabotage (and the cover-up) just to focus on inconsequential things like extorting foreign leaders with taxpayer money to subvert a national election.
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I thought the guy that walked out was actually the father of one of the Parkland victims - although he'd likely not be fond of the GOP, he's not necessarily a dem either.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...g-professional
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Old 5th February 2020, 07:57 PM   #173
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How are these two incidents even remotely comparable?
if only they dared...
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Old 5th February 2020, 07:59 PM   #174
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Me too, now that I know what its actually about, I wish I hadn't gotten involved. Its much more silly than I expected.

Is ChristianProgressive for real? He comes across as a ham fisted parody by coneservatives, an anti-poe?
Very real, and more and more of us on the right side of history are more than ready to dump "civility" in the garbage where it belongs.
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Old 5th February 2020, 08:02 PM   #175
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
BREAKING NEWS: PELOSI PLANNED TO RIP UP THE SPEECH ALL ALONG!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ip-speech.html
you might as well cite Qanon or Alex Jones. The Daily Mail is rated a "Questionable Source" by reliable fact-checkers.
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Representative Matt Gaetz has filed an ethics complaint against Pelosi for tearing up a copy of Trump's speech.

The Republican party has expressed more concern over Trump's paper than they have over children locked in cages. The ethical misalignment is impossible to calculate.
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What is going to sting way more to Trump is that the ratings for the speech were bad:
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...union-68787069
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Representative Matt Gaetz has filed an ethics complaint against Pelosi for tearing up a copy of Trump's speech.

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Are they asking for witnesses to be called?
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Old 5th February 2020, 11:12 PM   #179
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Respect is earned, not given. Trump doesn't deserve respect and this time he got what he deserved.

And the whiny GOP snowflakes are STILL clutching their pearls...
I've always believed respect is given until its loss is earned. Trump has well earned loss of respect.
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Old 5th February 2020, 11:22 PM   #180
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BREAKING NEWS: PELOSI PLANNED TO RIP UP THE SPEECH ALL ALONG!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ip-speech.html
How far into Trump's speech did Pelosi pre-rip the papers? At some time she decided to do this, but that does not mean she planned it "ALL ALONG!" Her decision may well have come sometime during the speech as she listened to his lies and other drivel.
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Old 6th February 2020, 01:34 AM   #181
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Why the divisive rhetoric Mumbles? Can't we all GET ALONG!??

why do we have to do one thing over another? I get that you stick up for the blacks and gays.
I stand with traditional marriage
I think men deserve rights too
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My observation from being online over the last half day is that a lot of people very suddenly care very much about professionalism, decorum, tradition, and the upholding of norms from politicians.
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My observation from being online over the last half day is that a lot of people very suddenly care very much about professionalism, decorum, tradition, and the upholding of norms from politicians.
Spend more time online and you'll realise that it's part of the game. The US right wing aren't being serious anymore, about anything other than trolling liberals and hurting brown people.
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Respect is earned, not given. Trump doesn't deserve respect and this time he got what he deserved.

And the whiny GOP snowflakes are STILL clutching their pearls...
The Left does respect anyone who doesn't live in that echo chamber, and more often not have nothing offer but crybaby outrage with no other answers. They deserve no respect either till they have some. Where the right seems to go the fake news route, the left tries to either scream over dissent or just outright censor it, which is no better.
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Treating an illegitimate "president" as if he WERE actually President is capitulation.
Illegitimate in your opinion.... he still got elected. Not an endorsement just really inconvenient fact. Opinions on electoral college notwithstanding, he still... got.. elected.

How many leftists assumed Hillary would and stayed home giving in to complacency? They bear responsibility for him being there to.
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I don't make common cause with fascists and I hope the Democrats never do.

We need a wholesale purge of the GOP from our society. Cut the cancer out and save the American body.
So.... banned from twitter for calling for the execution of a public official, and now advocating violent overthrow of the government?

Just like right wing nutters have in the past..... ironic, huh?
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Every act of defiance is one more chip in the fascist's armor. ALL loyal Americans must do what they can when they can, without mercy or quarter to oppose the treasonous GOP.
Loyal lefties to the manifesto, FTFY
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Very real, and more and more of us on the right side of history are more than ready to dump "civility" in the garbage where it belongs.
suspecting a retiree who literally argues on twitter/facebook when not yelling at C-Span. dad was the same way. Right down to the angry rhetoric.
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Before all the Partisan nonsense begins, I have to agree. There's still decorum and respect for the offices in question, even if you don't like the people in the role at the time. When you sink so low to become so petty, it's a sad development. Yes, the speech was painful but Pelosi was really no better.
Respect for the office can be restored. One should always hurt Trump when one has the opportunity. It would be unpatriotic not to.
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Respect for the office can be restored. One should always hurt Trump when one has the opportunity. It would be unpatriotic not to.
Bull Puckey, rise above by not being trolled by his and said ilk. By never having an answer other than slighting the right proves the left has no alternative answers. It's another cawing magpie in the wind. Just as useless, just as in the way of any real progress. Trump sucks. So do they.
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Illegitimate in your opinion.... he still got elected. Not an endorsement just really inconvenient fact. Opinions on electoral college notwithstanding, he still... got.. elected.

How many leftists assumed Hillary would and stayed home giving in to complacency? They bear responsibility for him being there to.
Hillary got 3 MILLION more votes DESPITE massive election tampering by Russia and the GOP.

Obama should have halted the election and arrested Trump and the GOP once the intel report was in.
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Bull Puckey, rise above by not being trolled by his and said ilk. By never having an answer other than slighting the right proves the left has no alternative answers. It's another cawing magpie in the wind. Just as useless, just as in the way of any real progress. Trump sucks. So do they.
Rolling over for a bully only encourages him. The Left in America needs to man up and bloody some GOP noses.
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Loyal lefties to the manifesto, FTFY
Trump is a clear and present danger to the security and liberty of the US. If you are loyal to him you are not loyal to the US.

Period.
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Pelosi's ripping up her copy of a speech after the conclusion of the speech is grossly dwarfed by a representative yelling "you lie" during the speech. It seems roughly equivalent to a supreme court justice mouthing disagreement during the speech. Hardly worth mentioning.
And yet it has been mentioned.
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So.... banned from twitter for calling for the execution of a public official, and now advocating violent overthrow of the government?

Just like right wing nutters have in the past..... ironic, huh?
Calling for the legal administration of a penalty provided for by law after conviction is not "violent overthrow" of anything. Nor is calling for a political movement that is anathema to peace and justice to be excluded from political debate and public office.

I'd say "nice try" but you are transparent.
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Obama should have halted the election and arrested Trump and the GOP once the intel report was in.
I'm sure that would've gone over well...
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Hillary got 3 MILLION more votes DESPITE massive election tampering by Russia and the GOP.

Obama should have halted the election and arrested Trump and the GOP once the intel report was in.
coulda shoulda woulda, the Electoral College is the system in place and thats what it is. How many Dems were complacent and stayed home. Many. They bear responsibility, so let the left own it.
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Old 6th February 2020, 06:13 AM   #198
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Rolling over for a bully only encourages him. The Left in America needs to man up and bloody some GOP noses.
Funny, I still see a retiree yelling at C-span all day. But vitriol dully noted. Not gonna happen though.
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Old 6th February 2020, 06:14 AM   #199
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Trump is a clear and present danger to the security and liberty of the US. If you are loyal to him you are not loyal to the US.

Period.
Wrong, I dislike both sides because neither can hear anything but their own noise. The censorship of the Left, the fake news of the Right are both threats to the US. I'm loyal to the US, not the Socialist States of your fanasty world.
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Calling for the legal administration of a penalty provided for by law after conviction is not "violent overthrow" of anything. Nor is calling for a political movement that is anathema to peace and justice to be excluded from political debate and public office.

I'd say "nice try" but you are transparent.
You called for his execution and you have called for the removal of elements of the government you don't like. You call for censorship of those who say things you dont agree with.

You want censorship, you advocate the same sort of thing the Bolsheviks did. Yeah Trump sucks, but your vision is hardly a friend of the America people.

(Mods: note I used "Your vision" not you.) ....
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