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Old 15th January 2018, 05:35 PM   #1
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Question Why does 'love' or 'infatuation' make you feel like you can do anything?

So this question was triggered from recently watching the film '500 Days of Summer' with Joseph Gordon Levitt. He is in love or infatuated with a girl 'Summer' he is in a relationship with (Zooey Deschanel) who does not return the same feelings. There are a few sequences in the film that have JGL speaking into the camera about how Summer makes him feel. At one point he says the feeling makes him feel like he can do anything, or anything is possible.

Now, I have been smitten by some girls before in my life, some I never even had relationships with but simply interacted with on a limited basis. it really feels like a high, like life's possibilities are endless and not to sound cliche, but that you can 'take on the world'.

I'm sure that idea has been played out in a lot of other media forms besides this movie, but does anyone know the biological basis for this feeling? Could it be a byproduct of primitive motivation to procreate?

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Old 15th January 2018, 07:17 PM   #2
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Could be. The body naturally produces certain endorphins that could be reasonably triggered by certain emotions such as strong feelings of love/desire.
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Old 15th January 2018, 08:18 PM   #3
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Ah, like in "All About Us" by He Is We feat. Owl City:

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Why I feel this way


It starts with "t" and rhymes with "pestosterone."
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Old 17th January 2018, 03:18 PM   #4
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Endorphins, definitely.

I was once given a small amount of opium (and informed about its presence after the fact.) While not an intoxicating dose, it gave me a strangely detached feeling of lack of concern for danger or hazards, which in the right context could be experienced as invincibility or omnipotence. Tickling the dragon's tail; I never went near those people or that substance again.

Love, though; it's a helluva drug!
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Old 17th January 2018, 03:39 PM   #5
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Love, though; it's a helluva drug!
Not when you come down from it.
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Old 17th January 2018, 04:06 PM   #6
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People who are thinking clearly do not have children, therefore the young (and dumb) are afflicted with higher sex drives. When you're "in love" you think the world is great and anything is possible - kinda like alcohol. Why not have a kid? "Sure honey, anything you say!!!"

Oh I see you already answered this in the OP

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Old 17th January 2018, 04:13 PM   #7
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Roxy Music

"Showing out, showing out hit and run
Boy meets girl where the beat goes on
Stitched up tight can't shake free
Love is the drug got a hook on me

Oh, catch that buzz
Love is the drug I'm thinking of
Oh, can't you see
Love is the drug for me
Oh, oh"
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Old 19th January 2018, 11:17 PM   #8
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Could it be a byproduct of primitive motivation to procreate?
Absolutely
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
People who are thinking clearly do not have children, therefore the young (and dumb) are afflicted with higher sex drives. When you're "in love" you think the world is great and anything is possible - kinda like alcohol. Why not have a kid? "Sure honey, anything you say!!!"

Oh I see you already answered this in the OP



Yes.
Jeez, I'd really like to see evidence of this. Yes, sex drives are effected by hormones, but have you not noticed that contraceptives are almost universally available? And only non-clearly thinking people have children? I'm not holding my breath, but it would add to this forum if you could support your rambling posts.
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To the OP, you say you have been "smitten"'with some girls you had limited interaction with. Would you describe this as "love" as you perceive it?

Because to me love is a far more immersive and overwhelming experience. I've been smitten quite a few times, but only twice in love. And I felt wreckless and bulletproof at the same time. A euphoric but dangerous combination.
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Mild hypoxia.

At least in males, a lot of blood is rushing to at least one other part of the body, leaving less for the brain.
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Old 20th January 2018, 04:53 PM   #13
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Being in love even allows you to hold gas for extended periods. Most of the time.
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I acknowledge that there is something wrong with me. Falling in love has never given me that kind of euphoria but instead anxiety.

I get the endorphins with intellectual or mystical epiphanies, or even in situations of significant injury. Sure I've felt some bliss with love, but the anxiety is always in the greater measure.

I'm more neurotic than erotic.
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...Could it be a byproduct of primitive motivation to procreate?
Bill Nye explains,
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Old 21st January 2018, 10:39 AM   #17
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The relevant clip (including when he sees himself as Han Solo):



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I acknowledge that there is something wrong with me. Falling in love has never given me that kind of euphoria but instead anxiety.

I get the endorphins with intellectual or mystical epiphanies, or even in situations of significant injury. Sure I've felt some bliss with love, but the anxiety is always in the greater measure.

I'm more neurotic than erotic.
Same here.
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I acknowledge that there is something wrong with me. Falling in love has never given me that kind of euphoria but instead anxiety.

Infatuation caused me the highest highs and the lowest lows, often in the same thirty minutes. I'm kind of jealous of the young for being able to feel things so deeply. Mature love is mostly about getting the mocha cheesecake for dessert because my wife likes mocha and she refuses to order dessert herself.
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Infatuation caused me the highest highs and the lowest lows, often in the same thirty minutes. I'm kind of jealous of the young for being able to feel things so deeply. Mature love is mostly about getting the mocha cheesecake for dessert because my wife likes mocha and she refuses to order dessert herself.
This is true love!
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Same here.
I'm so much happier untangled and romantically disinclined.
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I'm so much happier untangled and romantically disinclined.
I'm okay with dating but I much prefer dating apps/sites to meeting someone through studies/etc because of this.
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Nasty trick of Mother Nature, in my opinion:

Your infatuation might lead you to do great things, thus proving your worth to your mate - or it might make you do something really stupid, destructive, proving that you aren't partner-material after all.
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I'm okay with dating but I much prefer dating apps/sites to meeting someone through studies/etc because of this.
Everyone has to cope whatever way they can.

I have some additional issues that make it better for me to neither date nor meet. Also I welcome that age taken me out of the demographic.

I'd rather sit reading my book, and if Last Chance Harvey (or Harriet) asks me what I'm reading, I get up and move somewhere else.
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Oxytocin and seratonin, mostly.
Yes, those neurotransmitters.
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I'm so much happier untangled and romantically disinclined.
Humans are inclined to group and physical connnection.....children do very poorly without physical contact and so do single adults.

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Married Vs Single: What Science Says Is Better For Your Health
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Apr 2, 2015 - Longevity. Getting married is a good way to live longer — at least that's what research says. Having a family and living with a spouse gives individuals something to live for, compared to their single counterparts

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Jan 12, 2013 - Scientists have found that being married, or being in a permanent stable relationship, could lead to a longer life. Middle-aged people without a spouse or long-term partner were discovered to be at greater risk of premature death than those who were settled down with their other half, they said.
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Humans are inclined to group and physical connnection.....children do very poorly without physical contact and so do single adults.
Yes! I academically agree with you! But in practice I'd rather shave a few years off and be able live the remainder with some ease of mind.
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Yes! I academically agree with you! But in practice I'd rather shave a few years off and be able live the remainder with some ease of mind.
I really understand what you are talking about. I always felt that maybe being able to fall in love was a type of talent some people had, and I didn't have it. The quote I always related to was, "I guess I wasn't meant to mate in captivity.

It worked so well for so many years. If I had a book to curl up with at night, an animal next to me, I was fine.

Then, at age 65 I realized when someone came into my life, and I suddenly understood what those lyrics in songs meant. I never had to question if I was in love. What a rush!
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I really understand what you are talking about. I always felt that maybe being able to fall in love was a type of talent some people had, and I didn't have it. The quote I always related to was, "I guess I wasn't meant to mate in captivity.

It worked so well for so many years. If I had a book to curl up with at night, an animal next to me, I was fine.

Then, at age 65 I realized when someone came into my life, and I suddenly understood what those lyrics in songs meant. I never had to question if I was in love. What a rush!
I don't mean to be some cynical detractor of yours or anyone's wonderful love. I get the warm fuzzies and tears seeing or reading stories of people finding their soulmates. I merely speak for the "wretched" minority who for whatever reason don't bind that way. Sometimes I do feel that there's something wrong with me. But I don't like it when its translated into some kind of moral failure or inhumanity.

Anyway, I like songs about rainbows.
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