Alex Jones Vs. Donald Trump: A betting/predictions thread - Page 4

Horatius · 7th April 2017, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Stacko

We could be seeing the break up soon. Who had bombing Syria?

Not so fast!

https://www.infowars.com/trump-strik...ones-analysis/

Features such snippets as "Machiavellian stroke of genius". Apparently, even though the gas attack was a false flag, Trump is hitting Syria to make China think twice about North Korea. Oh, and conveniently making the Russian connections look fake.

But he still sets it up as "maybe part of a plot" in the last minute, just to cover his ass.

dudalb · 7th April 2017, 10:55 AM

I think Jones is waiting to see how his core audience jumps. His whole Stroke Of Genius thing might be way over their head.

dudalb · 7th April 2017, 12:05 PM

The main thing is that supporting somebody in the White House is so contrary to what Jones has done in the past,so counter intuitive to his style, that I don't think he can keep it up much longer.

trustbutverify · 7th April 2017, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Not surprised about Alex Jones;he has been a paid "correspondent" for Russia Today for a number of years.

I'm trying to think of some western racist scumbag who hasn't been payed off through a job with the propaganda organ formally known as Russia-Today.

KDLarsen · 9th April 2017, 02:08 PM

There's some movement in Newtown to have Trump publicly distance himself from AJ over the latter's promotion of Sandy Hook conspiracy theories.

Civet · 10th April 2017, 06:55 PM

This is a thing on Infowars now:

https://www.infowars.com/donald-trum...l-law-breaker/

A pretty harsh denunciation of Trump. Claims to be by an unnamed "high level source" which is a very MSM move.

sts60 · 10th April 2017, 10:01 PM

That would be awesome, to see the crackpot factions turn on each other. Virtual broadsides exchanged between fleets of moms' basements.

TheSupermeerkat · 11th April 2017, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Civet

https://www.infowars.com/donald-trum...l-law-breaker/

Urghh! That was my first visit for infowars. I feel dirty.

Horatius · 11th April 2017, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by sts60

That would be awesome, to see the crackpot factions turn on each other. Virtual broadsides exchanged between fleets of moms' basements.

There are definitely some cracks starting to show. I couldn't find it again (stupid Facebook!), but someone this weekend posted a link to AJ interviewing a guy (Stone?) about this, and the guy was accusing Jared Kushner of being behind it all, manipulating Trump into launching the attack. AJ seemed unusually reserved as he tried to walk a fine line between still supporting Trump, while not calling BS on his guest.

Civet · 11th April 2017, 06:56 AM

Wallowing in the Infowars comments sections, the amount of Antisemitism being shown toward Kushner is repulsive. I haven't seen AJ himself going that route in his concerns about Kushner and Ivanka but his fans are all over it.

Horatius · 11th April 2017, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Civet

Wallowing in the Infowars comments sections, the amount of Antisemitism being shown toward Kushner is repulsive. I haven't seen AJ himself going that route in his concerns about Kushner and Ivanka but his fans are all over it.

That's always been one of Jones' odd quirks. He himself doesn't seem to be (actually or merely professionally) antisemitic, but an awful lot of his fans are. I guess he figures he doesn't have to explicitly jump on that bandwagon since he's already making money off that crowd, and this lets him and his other fans side-step the issue.

LSSBB · 11th April 2017, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

That's always been one of Jones' odd quirks. He himself doesn't seem to be (actually or merely professionally) antisemitic, but an awful lot of his fans are. I guess he figures he doesn't have to explicitly jump on that bandwagon since he's already making money off that crowd, and this lets him and his other fans side-step the issue.

Not sure, I do believe I heard that Alex' wife is Jewish.

dudalb · 11th April 2017, 10:55 AM

Back in 2008, Jones went over the edge as far as anti Semitism goes with some comments about Emmanuel Rahm when Rahm was Obama's Chief Of Staff.
Since then, he has been careful to use wink/nod code words when discussing Jews in position of authority.

trustbutverify · 11th April 2017, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Civet

Wallowing in the Infowars comments sections, the amount of Antisemitism being shown toward Kushner is repulsive. I haven't seen AJ himself going that route in his concerns about Kushner and Ivanka but his fans are all over it.

Jones has made tons of classic Jew-baiting comments, with the word Jew replaced with the word Zionist. His suckers know exactly what he means, Jewish wife or not.

dudalb · 12th April 2017, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by trustbutverify

Jones has made tons of classic Jew-baiting comments, with the word Jew replaced with the word Zionist. His suckers know exactly what he means, Jewish wife or not.

THis, I did a thread about Jones Jew Baiting back in 2008 when he went berserk over Emmauel Rahm being Obama's chief of staff.
Jones has been a bit more subtle about it since then, but all the fingerprints are there if you look close enough.
That the tide is truning vis a vis Jones and Trump was inevitable. Jones supporting somebody in the White House was simply too much against this style and whole shtick to last for any length of time.

dudalb · 19th April 2017, 02:57 PM

The nonstop praise of Trump has been dialed down considerably on INFOWARS. Still a few favorable articles, but the constant "Trump is our Savior" stream is pretty much gone. Something has definently happened to chill Jones on Donnie.

Oystein · 25th April 2017, 09:52 AM

Stumbled across this Alex-rant today - posted on April 9 already:

At 0:40 (and again later), pretty much calls Ivanka and Jared Kuchner traitors
At 5:15 lists the issues where Alex thinks Trump has failed and succumbed to the globalists
Says Trump is surrounded by Neo-cons - the first 70 days he was great, but then lost his ability to deliver.

Segnosaur · 25th April 2017, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Stumbled across this Alex-rant today - posted on April 9 already:

At 0:40 (and again later), pretty much calls Ivanka and Jared Kuchner traitors
At 5:15 lists the issues where Alex thinks Trump has failed and succumbed to the globalists
Says Trump is surrounded by Neo-cons - the first 70 days he was great, but then lost his ability to deliver.

So, should this be considered Jones "turning on trump"?

Horatius · 25th April 2017, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Stumbled across this Alex-rant today - posted on April 9 already:

At 0:40 (and again later), pretty much calls Ivanka and Jared Kuchner traitors
At 5:15 lists the issues where Alex thinks Trump has failed and succumbed to the globalists
Says Trump is surrounded by Neo-cons - the first 70 days he was great, but then lost his ability to deliver.

But they're still tooting the horn for Trump today:

https://www.infowars.com/president-t...omplishments/#

TheSupermeerkat · 27th April 2017, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

But they're still tooting the horn for Trump today:

https://www.infowars.com/president-t...omplishments/#

I don't think InfoWars followers care: they only see what they want to see.

Stacko · 27th April 2017, 04:32 PM

Is this the beginning of the end?

Quote:

“We did not elect Ivanka Trump to be the 45th President of the United States,” Jones says dressed in a white-collared shirt while driving a car. “I think she’s talented, she’s beautiful, I think the dresses she wears, the clothing line are cool. I have nothing against her personally. Or Jared Kushner, but we didn’t elect him to be president either. He’s a Democrat, his dad went to prison for fraud, his 666 building’s going sideways.”

The remarks come as Jones is in the midst of a contentious child custody battle and just a few days after the yogurt giant Chobani sued him claiming that he had fabricated stories about the company and its CEO Hamdi Ulukuya.

Jones is butting heads with Ivanka Trump’s recent interest in accepting Syrian refugees into the United States—a divergence from the platform that Trump ran on as a candidate.

Horatius · 27th April 2017, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Is this the beginning of the end?

That's the second time in about a week he's touched on this subject, so it may very well be the wedge issue he's going to use. We're just about at the 100 days point, and despite Trumpist claims to the contrary, Trump really hasn't been able to do much to promote the agenda he was elected on.

So, yeah, this might be it. Events of this coming weekend might be key to AJ's final renunciation of Trump.

Everybody make popcorn!!!!!

Horatius · 27th April 2017, 06:27 PM

Bumping the table!

Damn, just realized I'm 3 days away from being proved wrong! Come on, Alex, don't fail me now!!!

Poster	No Earlier Than	No Later Than	Most Likely	Current Status
Horatius	January 20, 2017	April 30, 2017	?	Pending
Hans	January 7 2017	April 20 2017	?	Pending
Degeneve	Before January 2017		End of Summer 2017	Pending
jaydeehess	February 1 2017	September 30 2017	April 15-June 1 2017	Pending
dudalb	November 09 2016	Wall/Deportation Failures	?	Pending
Captain_Swoop	Mid-December 2016			Loser! So Sad
tinribmancer	January 15 2017	May 4 2017	March 2017	Loser! So Sad
NoahFence	July 4, 2017	December 2017	Never	Pending
Axxman300	Feb 15 2017	July 10 2017	June 7 2017	Pending
Oystein	January 6 2017	April 20 2017	February 1 2017	Looser! So Sad
timhau	February 15 2017	Mid to late April 2017		Pending
Klimax	February 1 2017	February 30 2017		Loser! So Sad
Border Reiver		Works with Obama		Pending
Dr. Keith	June 2017	July 2017		Pending
Foolmewunz	Midterm Elections 2018		Maybe never	Pending
Redwood			Cabinet Announcements	Loser! So Sad
Mark6		February 2017		Loser! So Sad.
VonKleist			March 2017/First "False Flag"	Loser! So Sad.
Myron Proudfoot	2018 Midterms		Only if midterms go badly	Pending
Bogative			January 22, 2017 (weather and contrails permitting)	Loser! So Sad
zorro99	Mid-December		Treasury Nominee	Loser! So Sad
Segnosaur	January 2018	January 2019		Pending
Stacko	Summer 2017	2018 Midterms	Failure to indict Hillary/Obama	Pending
ALEX JONES!!!	Inauguration		Mid-April to May	Pending
Checkmite		A few years	The Sheeple will lead the Sheppard	Pending
Jack by the hedge			The week before inauguration	Loser! So sad

Trebuchet · 27th April 2017, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Is this the beginning of the end?

I'm amazed he managed to not put Kushner in triple parentheses.

Horatius · 27th April 2017, 06:38 PM

...and let's not forget:

Originally Posted by Horatius

In today's updates, Alex Jones and his various minions are still pro-Trump, but are also still setting up excuses for turning anti-Trump.

Is Trump Outsmarting The Neocons With His Latest Moves?
Is Trump keeping neocons close so they don't rebel?

Oh, and if you can stomach it, watch that video, because now we have a new contender for the betting pool:

AJ himself said April/May was the timetable for the grassroots to abandon Trump if he failed to deliver.....

Armitage72 · 29th April 2017, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Is this the beginning of the end?

The linked article only briefly mentioned it while not providing the quote, but he also compared Ivanka to...(gasp)...Hillary!!

Quote:

“Ivanka Trump’s policies are sounding a lot like Hillary Clinton, and we didn’t want Clinton in the White House,” Alex Jones wrote on his Infowars site this week. “We didn’t elect her. And she’s over in Germany with Merkel, that opened the borders up for all the Islamisists … and she says for women we should let refugees in and that her dad’s wrong and she wants him to change his mind,” Jones said in a video posted online Thursday.

Hans · 30th April 2017, 07:35 AM

Well dang just remembered this and I find I have failed utterly in my prediction! However I further predict that I will ultimately be vindicated when Trump decides being President is boring, the pay sucks and so he'll resign so he can return to the more comfortable position of head complainer.

Horatius · 30th April 2017, 08:36 AM

Interesting....They still have lots of pro-Trump stories on their front page today, but some of them have an ... interesting ... shift in their tone:

Quote:

President Trump signed the 30th executive order of his presidency on Friday, capping off a whirlwind period that produced more orders in his first 100 days than for any president since Harry Truman.

The rash of executive orders underlines Trump’s focus on reversing as much of the Obama administration’s policy agenda as he can, even as the new administration struggles to find legislative victories in Congress.

It fits Trump’s showman persona, as well: signing ceremonies for his orders are often in the Oval Office or in a well-furnished executive building, and see the president surrounded by administration officials, members of Congress or everyday Americans who, Trump says, he’s trying to help.

Trump and his aides have touted the orders as they have put a shine on his first 100 days in office.

And here's AJ himself. Trump was "perfect" for 70 days, but the last 30 or so have him concerned...

Quote:

Alex Jones and Paul Watson: Is Trump Betraying America?
An analysis of President Donald Trump's first months in office

tinribmancer · 27th May 2017, 08:03 AM

Anything new now with this Comey situation?

Horatius · 28th May 2017, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by tinribmancer

Anything new now with this Comey situation?

Honestly, it's like Infowars is slowly evolving into Fox News. Barely any outright conspiracy mongering anymore, they're mostly just repeating the news we've all heard elsewhere, just with a slightly snarky Pro-Trump spin put on it. Perhaps slightly less literate than Fox usually is, but not really different in content.

tinribmancer · 31st May 2017, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Honestly, it's like Infowars is slowly evolving into Fox News. Barely any outright conspiracy mongering anymore, they're mostly just repeating the news we've all heard elsewhere, just with a slightly snarky Pro-Trump spin put on it. Perhaps slightly less literate than Fox usually is, but not really different in content.

Plus, the constant Illuminati mentioning, which Fox also never does (I think...).

Stacko · 31st May 2017, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Honestly, it's like Infowars is slowly evolving into Fox News. Barely any outright conspiracy mongering anymore, they're mostly just repeating the news we've all heard elsewhere, just with a slightly snarky Pro-Trump spin put on it. Perhaps slightly less literate than Fox usually is, but not really different in content.

So, it's a less racist Breitbart?

Oystein · 24th July 2017, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Bumping the table!

Damn, just realized I'm 3 days away from being proved wrong! Come on, Alex, don't fail me now!!!

Loser, Horatius! So sad!

Poster	No Earlier Than	No Later Than	Most Likely	Current Status
Horatius	January 20, 2017	April 30, 2017	?	Loser! So Sad
Hans	January 7 2017	April 20 2017	?	Loser! So Sad
Degeneve	Before January 2017		End of Summer 2017	Pending
jaydeehess	February 1 2017	September 30 2017	April 15-June 1 2017	Pending
dudalb	November 09 2016	Wall/Deportation Failures	?	Pending
Captain_Swoop	Mid-December 2016			Loser! So Sad
tinribmancer	January 15 2017	May 4 2017	March 2017	Loser! So Sad
NoahFence	July 4, 2017	December 2017	Never	Pending
Axxman300	Feb 15 2017	July 10 2017	June 7 2017	Loser! So Sad
Oystein	January 6 2017	April 20 2017	February 1 2017	Looser! So Sad
timhau	February 15 2017	Mid to late April 2017		Loser! So Sad
Klimax	February 1 2017	February 30 2017		Loser! So Sad
Border Reiver		Works with Obama		Pending
Dr. Keith	June 2017	July 2017		Pending
Foolmewunz	Midterm Elections 2018		Maybe never	Pending
Redwood			Cabinet Announcements	Loser! So Sad
Mark6		February 2017		Loser! So Sad.
VonKleist			March 2017/First "False Flag"	Loser! So Sad.
Myron Proudfoot	2018 Midterms		Only if midterms go badly	Pending
Bogative			January 22, 2017 (weather and contrails permitting)	Loser! So Sad
zorro99	Mid-December		Treasury Nominee	Loser! So Sad
Segnosaur	January 2018	January 2019		Pending
Stacko	Summer 2017	2018 Midterms	Failure to indict Hillary/Obama	Pending
ALEX JONES!!!	Inauguration		Mid-April to May	Pending
Checkmite		A few years	The Sheeple will lead the Sheppard	Pending
Jack by the hedge			The week before inauguration	Loser! So sad

Axxman300 · 24th July 2017, 03:31 PM

Dang it. I guess I should take consolation in the fact that I don't understand crazy people.

Dr. Keith · 24th July 2017, 03:39 PM

I've still got a few days, and really, it could happen!

Oystein · 24th July 2017, 04:02 PM

I have a hunch that many of us (myself included) expected that Trump, despite his ""unorthodox" campaign promises, would change into a more conventional, "presidential" president - looking more like Establishment. Or, failing that, that he would act and succeed on his promises and really hurt Americans. Either outcome would have enraged Alex. But as it were, Trump still acts as if he is campaigning (and didn't he start his re-election campaign just days after inauguration?) and as if he is being kept from power, thus against the Establishment, while on the other hand he simply fails to deliver anything. Either way, that's how Alex likes it: Rambling, huffing, puffing, and not changing.

Hans · 24th July 2017, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Loser, Horatius! So sad!

Poster	No Earlier Than	No Later Than	Most Likely	Current Status
Horatius	January 20, 2017	April 30, 2017	?	Loser! So Sad
Hans	January 7 2017	April 20 2017	?	Loser! So Sad
Degeneve	Before January 2017		End of Summer 2017	Pending
jaydeehess	February 1 2017	September 30 2017	April 15-June 1 2017	Pending
dudalb	November 09 2016	Wall/Deportation Failures	?	Pending
Captain_Swoop	Mid-December 2016			Loser! So Sad
tinribmancer	January 15 2017	May 4 2017	March 2017	Loser! So Sad
NoahFence	July 4, 2017	December 2017	Never	Pending
Axxman300	Feb 15 2017	July 10 2017	June 7 2017	Loser! So Sad
Oystein	January 6 2017	April 20 2017	February 1 2017	Looser! So Sad
timhau	February 15 2017	Mid to late April 2017		Loser! So Sad
Klimax	February 1 2017	February 30 2017		Loser! So Sad
Border Reiver		Works with Obama		Pending
Dr. Keith	June 2017	July 2017		Pending
Foolmewunz	Midterm Elections 2018		Maybe never	Pending
Redwood			Cabinet Announcements	Loser! So Sad
Mark6		February 2017		Loser! So Sad.
VonKleist			March 2017/First "False Flag"	Loser! So Sad.
Myron Proudfoot	2018 Midterms		Only if midterms go badly	Pending
Bogative			January 22, 2017 (weather and contrails permitting)	Loser! So Sad
zorro99	Mid-December		Treasury Nominee	Loser! So Sad
Segnosaur	January 2018	January 2019		Pending
Stacko	Summer 2017	2018 Midterms	Failure to indict Hillary/Obama	Pending
ALEX JONES!!!	Inauguration		Mid-April to May	Pending
Checkmite		A few years	The Sheeple will lead the Sheppard	Pending
Jack by the hedge			The week before inauguration	Loser! So sad

Wait a minute - wait a minute how about the possibility that the Congress under Trump will delete all the Obama years so we go back 7 1/2 years and my answer is still possible?

tinribmancer · 25th July 2017, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hans

Wait a minute - wait a minute how about the possibility that the Congress under Trump will delete all the Obama years so we go back 7 1/2 years and my answer is still possible?

Since when does Congress have time machines?

And, no. We have the Delorean stashed here (in fact I'm about to become it's new owner.

) at the NWO inc. HQ.

Horatius · 25th July 2017, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Oystein

But as it were, Trump still acts as if he is campaigning (and didn't he start his re-election campaign just days after inauguration?) and as if he is being kept from power, thus against the Establishment, while on the other hand he simply fails to deliver anything. Either way, that's how Alex likes it: Rambling, huffing, puffing, and not changing.

Yeah, none of us expected the Trumpster fire that actually resulted, throwing all our estimates off. I mean, I expected Trump to at least try to do the job, but he's 6 months in, and still hasn't even nominated people for a huge number of positions that need to be filled. I didn't expect 6 months of rehashing the election, and whining about everyone hating him and being "disloyal" or "losers".

Allen773 · 31st July 2017, 09:42 AM

Clearly Trump is a disinfo agent sent out by the (((Globalists))) to pander to the Truth-Tellers (TM) while the war between the brave Steve Bannon and the Kushner/Wall Street/Rothschild faction goes on behind the scenes. Wake up, Sheeple!!

7th April 2017, 10:45 AM	#121
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Originally Posted by Stacko We could be seeing the break up soon. Who had bombing Syria? Not so fast! https://www.infowars.com/trump-strik...ones-analysis/ Features such snippets as "Machiavellian stroke of genius". Apparently, even though the gas attack was a false flag, Trump is hitting Syria to make China think twice about North Korea. Oh, and conveniently making the Russian connections look fake. But he still sets it up as "maybe part of a plot" in the last minute, just to cover his ass.
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7th April 2017, 10:55 AM	#122
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 39,738	I think Jones is waiting to see how his core audience jumps. His whole Stroke Of Genius thing might be way over their head.
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7th April 2017, 12:05 PM	#123
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 39,738	The main thing is that supporting somebody in the White House is so contrary to what Jones has done in the past,so counter intuitive to his style, that I don't think he can keep it up much longer.
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7th April 2017, 04:43 PM	#124
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,128	Originally Posted by dudalb Not surprised about Alex Jones;he has been a paid "correspondent" for Russia Today for a number of years. I'm trying to think of some western racist scumbag who hasn't been payed off through a job with the propaganda organ formally known as Russia-Today.
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9th April 2017, 02:08 PM	#125
KDLarsen Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,721	There's some movement in Newtown to have Trump publicly distance himself from AJ over the latter's promotion of Sandy Hook conspiracy theories.
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10th April 2017, 06:55 PM	#126
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,598	This is a thing on Infowars now: https://www.infowars.com/donald-trum...l-law-breaker/ A pretty harsh denunciation of Trump. Claims to be by an unnamed "high level source" which is a very MSM move.
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10th April 2017, 10:01 PM	#127
sts60 Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,875	That would be awesome, to see the crackpot factions turn on each other. Virtual broadsides exchanged between fleets of moms' basements.
sts60 Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,875

11th April 2017, 12:07 AM	#128
TheSupermeerkat Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 271	Originally Posted by Civet https://www.infowars.com/donald-trum...l-law-breaker/ Urghh! That was my first visit for infowars. I feel dirty.

11th April 2017, 04:33 AM	#129
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Originally Posted by sts60 That would be awesome, to see the crackpot factions turn on each other. Virtual broadsides exchanged between fleets of moms' basements. There are definitely some cracks starting to show. I couldn't find it again (stupid Facebook!), but someone this weekend posted a link to AJ interviewing a guy (Stone?) about this, and the guy was accusing Jared Kushner of being behind it all, manipulating Trump into launching the attack. AJ seemed unusually reserved as he tried to walk a fine line between still supporting Trump, while not calling BS on his guest.
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11th April 2017, 06:56 AM	#130
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,598	Wallowing in the Infowars comments sections, the amount of Antisemitism being shown toward Kushner is repulsive. I haven't seen AJ himself going that route in his concerns about Kushner and Ivanka but his fans are all over it.
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11th April 2017, 07:32 AM	#131
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Originally Posted by Civet Wallowing in the Infowars comments sections, the amount of Antisemitism being shown toward Kushner is repulsive. I haven't seen AJ himself going that route in his concerns about Kushner and Ivanka but his fans are all over it. That's always been one of Jones' odd quirks. He himself doesn't seem to be (actually or merely professionally) antisemitic, but an awful lot of his fans are. I guess he figures he doesn't have to explicitly jump on that bandwagon since he's already making money off that crowd, and this lets him and his other fans side-step the issue.
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11th April 2017, 07:52 AM	#132
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 17,281	Originally Posted by Horatius That's always been one of Jones' odd quirks. He himself doesn't seem to be (actually or merely professionally) antisemitic, but an awful lot of his fans are. I guess he figures he doesn't have to explicitly jump on that bandwagon since he's already making money off that crowd, and this lets him and his other fans side-step the issue. Not sure, I do believe I heard that Alex' wife is Jewish.
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11th April 2017, 10:55 AM	#133
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 39,738	Back in 2008, Jones went over the edge as far as anti Semitism goes with some comments about Emmanuel Rahm when Rahm was Obama's Chief Of Staff. Since then, he has been careful to use wink/nod code words when discussing Jews in position of authority.
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11th April 2017, 04:53 PM	#134
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,128	Originally Posted by Civet Wallowing in the Infowars comments sections, the amount of Antisemitism being shown toward Kushner is repulsive. I haven't seen AJ himself going that route in his concerns about Kushner and Ivanka but his fans are all over it. Jones has made tons of classic Jew-baiting comments, with the word Jew replaced with the word Zionist. His suckers know exactly what he means, Jewish wife or not.
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12th April 2017, 10:37 AM	#135
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 39,738	Originally Posted by trustbutverify Jones has made tons of classic Jew-baiting comments, with the word Jew replaced with the word Zionist. His suckers know exactly what he means, Jewish wife or not. THis, I did a thread about Jones Jew Baiting back in 2008 when he went berserk over Emmauel Rahm being Obama's chief of staff. Jones has been a bit more subtle about it since then, but all the fingerprints are there if you look close enough. That the tide is truning vis a vis Jones and Trump was inevitable. Jones supporting somebody in the White House was simply too much against this style and whole shtick to last for any length of time.
	__________________ Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein.

19th April 2017, 02:57 PM	#136
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 39,738	The nonstop praise of Trump has been dialed down considerably on INFOWARS. Still a few favorable articles, but the constant "Trump is our Savior" stream is pretty much gone. Something has definently happened to chill Jones on Donnie.
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25th April 2017, 09:52 AM	#137
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,107	Stumbled across this Alex-rant today - posted on April 9 already: At 0:40 (and again later), pretty much calls Ivanka and Jared Kuchner traitors At 5:15 lists the issues where Alex thinks Trump has failed and succumbed to the globalists Says Trump is surrounded by Neo-cons - the first 70 days he was great, but then lost his ability to deliver.
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25th April 2017, 10:09 AM	#138
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,043	Originally Posted by Oystein Stumbled across this Alex-rant today - posted on April 9 already: At 0:40 (and again later), pretty much calls Ivanka and Jared Kuchner traitors At 5:15 lists the issues where Alex thinks Trump has failed and succumbed to the globalists Says Trump is surrounded by Neo-cons - the first 70 days he was great, but then lost his ability to deliver. So, should this be considered Jones "turning on trump"?
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25th April 2017, 01:33 PM	#139
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Originally Posted by Oystein Stumbled across this Alex-rant today - posted on April 9 already: At 0:40 (and again later), pretty much calls Ivanka and Jared Kuchner traitors At 5:15 lists the issues where Alex thinks Trump has failed and succumbed to the globalists Says Trump is surrounded by Neo-cons - the first 70 days he was great, but then lost his ability to deliver. But they're still tooting the horn for Trump today: https://www.infowars.com/president-t...omplishments/#
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27th April 2017, 02:19 AM	#140
TheSupermeerkat Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 271	Originally Posted by Horatius But they're still tooting the horn for Trump today: https://www.infowars.com/president-t...omplishments/# I don't think InfoWars followers care: they only see what they want to see.

27th April 2017, 04:32 PM	#141
Stacko Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,644	Is this the beginning of the end? Quote: “We did not elect Ivanka Trump to be the 45th President of the United States,” Jones says dressed in a white-collared shirt while driving a car. “I think she’s talented, she’s beautiful, I think the dresses she wears, the clothing line are cool. I have nothing against her personally. Or Jared Kushner, but we didn’t elect him to be president either. He’s a Democrat, his dad went to prison for fraud, his 666 building’s going sideways.” The remarks come as Jones is in the midst of a contentious child custody battle and just a few days after the yogurt giant Chobani sued him claiming that he had fabricated stories about the company and its CEO Hamdi Ulukuya. Jones is butting heads with Ivanka Trump’s recent interest in accepting Syrian refugees into the United States—a divergence from the platform that Trump ran on as a candidate.
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27th April 2017, 06:24 PM	#142
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Originally Posted by Stacko Is this the beginning of the end? That's the second time in about a week he's touched on this subject, so it may very well be the wedge issue he's going to use. We're just about at the 100 days point, and despite Trumpist claims to the contrary, Trump really hasn't been able to do much to promote the agenda he was elected on. So, yeah, this might be it. Events of this coming weekend might be key to AJ's final renunciation of Trump. *Everybody make popcorn!!!!!*
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27th April 2017, 06:28 PM	#144
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwet Posts: 17,414	Originally Posted by Stacko Is this the beginning of the end? I'm amazed he managed to not put Kushner in triple parentheses.
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27th April 2017, 06:38 PM	#145
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	...and let's not forget: Originally Posted by Horatius In today's updates, Alex Jones and his various minions are still pro-Trump, but are also still setting up excuses for turning anti-Trump. Is Trump Outsmarting The Neocons With His Latest Moves? Is Trump keeping neocons close so they don't rebel? Oh, and if you can stomach it, watch that video, because now we have a new contender for the betting pool: AJ himself said April/May was the timetable for the grassroots to abandon Trump if he failed to deliver.....
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29th April 2017, 02:47 PM	#146
Armitage72 Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,015	Originally Posted by Stacko Is this the beginning of the end? The linked article only briefly mentioned it while not providing the quote, but he also compared Ivanka to...(gasp)...Hillary!! Quote: “Ivanka Trump’s policies are sounding a lot like Hillary Clinton, and we didn’t want Clinton in the White House,” Alex Jones wrote on his Infowars site this week. “We didn’t elect her. And she’s over in Germany with Merkel, that opened the borders up for all the Islamisists … and she says for women we should let refugees in and that her dad’s wrong and she wants him to change his mind,” Jones said in a video posted online Thursday.

30th April 2017, 07:35 AM	#147
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,407	Well dang just remembered this and I find I have failed utterly in my prediction! However I further predict that I will ultimately be vindicated when Trump decides being President is boring, the pay sucks and so he'll resign so he can return to the more comfortable position of head complainer.
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30th April 2017, 08:36 AM	#148
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Interesting....They still have lots of pro-Trump stories on their front page today, but some of them have an ... interesting ... shift in their tone: Quote: President Trump signed the 30th executive order of his presidency on Friday, capping off a whirlwind period that produced more orders in his first 100 days than for any president since Harry Truman. The rash of executive orders underlines Trump’s focus on reversing as much of the Obama administration’s policy agenda as he can, even as the new administration struggles to find legislative victories in Congress. It fits Trump’s showman persona, as well: signing ceremonies for his orders are often in the Oval Office or in a well-furnished executive building, and see the president surrounded by administration officials, members of Congress or everyday Americans who, Trump says, he’s trying to help. Trump and his aides have touted the orders as they have put a shine on his first 100 days in office. And here's AJ himself. Trump was "perfect" for 70 days, but the last 30 or so have him concerned... Quote: Alex Jones and Paul Watson: Is Trump Betraying America? An analysis of President Donald Trump's first months in office
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27th May 2017, 08:03 AM	#149
tinribmancer Hasbarian NWO Templar Cattle Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,546	Anything new now with this Comey situation?
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28th May 2017, 07:25 AM	#150
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,403	Originally Posted by tinribmancer Anything new now with this Comey situation? Honestly, it's like Infowars is slowly evolving into Fox News. Barely any outright conspiracy mongering anymore, they're mostly just repeating the news we've all heard elsewhere, just with a slightly snarky Pro-Trump spin put on it. Perhaps slightly less literate than Fox usually is, but not really different in content.
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31st May 2017, 11:26 AM	#151
tinribmancer Hasbarian NWO Templar Cattle Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,546	Originally Posted by Horatius Honestly, it's like Infowars is slowly evolving into Fox News. Barely any outright conspiracy mongering anymore, they're mostly just repeating the news we've all heard elsewhere, just with a slightly snarky Pro-Trump spin put on it. Perhaps slightly less literate than Fox usually is, but not really different in content. Plus, the constant Illuminati mentioning, which Fox also never does (I think...).
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31st May 2017, 06:59 PM	#152
Stacko Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,644	Originally Posted by Horatius Honestly, it's like Infowars is slowly evolving into Fox News. Barely any outright conspiracy mongering anymore, they're mostly just repeating the news we've all heard elsewhere, just with a slightly snarky Pro-Trump spin put on it. Perhaps slightly less literate than Fox usually is, but not really different in content. So, it's a less racist Breitbart?
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24th July 2017, 03:31 PM	#154
Axxman300 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California Coast Posts: 3,076	Dang it. I guess I should take consolation in the fact that I don't understand crazy people.
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24th July 2017, 03:39 PM	#155
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Pither Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15,799	I've still got a few days, and really, it could happen!
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24th July 2017, 04:02 PM	#156
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,107	I have a hunch that many of us (myself included) expected that Trump, despite his ""unorthodox" campaign promises, would change into a more conventional, "presidential" president - looking more like Establishment. Or, failing that, that he would act and succeed on his promises and really hurt Americans. Either outcome would have enraged Alex. But as it were, Trump still acts as if he is campaigning (and didn't he start his re-election campaign just days after inauguration?) and as if he is being kept from power, thus against the Establishment, while on the other hand he simply fails to deliver anything. Either way, that's how Alex likes it: Rambling, huffing, puffing, and not changing.
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25th July 2017, 05:01 AM	#158
tinribmancer Hasbarian NWO Templar Cattle Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,546	Originally Posted by Hans Wait a minute - wait a minute how about the possibility that the Congress under Trump will delete all the Obama years so we go back 7 1/2 years and my answer is still possible? Since when does Congress have time machines? And, no. We have the Delorean stashed here (in fact I'm about to become it's new owner. ) at the NWO inc. HQ.
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