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Old 12th June 2019, 10:28 PM   #1
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Any particular reason a mouse would mindlessly run in circles?

There is a house mouse in my kitchen that wasn't there less than an hour ago and it's literally running around in circles non-stop, occasionally squealing quietly.

It has slowed down just a bit but shows no signs of stopping anytime soon.
Any ideas as to how it could have come out into the open and suddenly started doing this?

I have gloves, a mask, and a cardboard box on standby ready to remove it to outside if it slows down soon.

ETA: And I went back to check on it and while I wasn't looking it apparently moved 8 feet across the kitchen to another spot where it's again running around in a small circle.

Similar situation:
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Old 12th June 2019, 10:47 PM   #2
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That is bizarre. I suggest brain damage causing him to only be able to run in one turning direction. He can't run straight or in the other direction. Damage to half its brain could do that.

That's a fantastic video.
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Old 12th June 2019, 10:56 PM   #3
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Poisoned? Dead yet?
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Old 12th June 2019, 11:36 PM   #4
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Poisoned? Dead yet?
Okay it's been around 2 hours and it's still running in a small circle, displaced a few feet from the last spot.
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Old 13th June 2019, 12:24 AM   #5
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toxoplasmosis, maybe
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Old 13th June 2019, 12:30 AM   #6
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toxoplasmosis, maybe
I've heard that Toxoplasma gondii can make rodents seek out or at least lose the fear of the smell of cats, but never heard of anything this bizarre.

And update: I nudged the mouse into a box and it settled down a bit but started running in circles again after a few seconds. I released it and it behaved seemingly normal, running away from me in straight lines when I tried to chase it.

This is super interesting but disturbing.
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Old 13th June 2019, 02:06 AM   #7
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Two possibilities come to mind

1. The mouse was poisoned, but did not eat enough to kill it. It was exhibiting temporary symptoms of poisoning, but as the toxin wore off, it came right

2. The mouse has suffered a stroke.
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Old 13th June 2019, 02:09 AM   #8
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Take it to a vet or animal rescue?
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Old 13th June 2019, 03:40 AM   #9
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Old 13th June 2019, 04:22 AM   #10
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Following the mouse in front?
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Perhaps it was vaccinated and got autism.
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Perhaps the mouse is miffed that he was left out of the 'Mouseketeer Roll Call'.
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Old 13th June 2019, 08:02 AM   #13
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Old 13th June 2019, 08:17 AM   #14
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Perhaps the poor little thing is having a nervous breakdown. Have you tried some therapeutic conversation? Teach him mindfulness.
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Did someone spill some coke?
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Old 13th June 2019, 09:28 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Two possibilities come to mind

1. The mouse was poisoned, but did not eat enough to kill it. It was exhibiting temporary symptoms of poisoning, but as the toxin wore off, it came right

2. The mouse has suffered a stroke.
I too vote some form of brain damage. Maybe it survived, if imperfectly, an encounter with a cat.
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Old 13th June 2019, 09:30 AM   #17
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Did someone spill some coke?
Getting into someone’s stash has to be on the list of possibilities.
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Old 13th June 2019, 09:33 AM   #18
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Could the mouse have suffered a tail injury? Cats and dogs will do that.
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Old 13th June 2019, 09:39 AM   #19
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ear infection?

https://www.justanswer.com/veterinar...d-circles.html
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Old 13th June 2019, 10:21 AM   #20
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Perhaps it was vaccinated and got autism.
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Old 13th June 2019, 10:41 AM   #21
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It occurs to me that the mouse could have rabies. I would be very careful about hanling it, just in case.
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Old 13th June 2019, 10:50 AM   #22
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It occurs to me that the mouse could have rabies. I would be very careful about hanling it, just in case.

I looked it up. Ti's rare for mice et al. to have rabies.
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Old 13th June 2019, 11:07 AM   #23
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Yeah rabies sounds very unlikely to me.
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Old 13th June 2019, 11:09 AM   #24
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It seems to be fairly common.

Several videos of mice running in circles are on YouTube.

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Old 13th June 2019, 11:27 AM   #25
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I found this on the net apparently it's not that unusual

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According to veterinary experts, mice may run in circles continually for various reasons including a brain parasite, brain tumour, inner ear infection, or as the result of a stroke.

Some mice, known as 'Waltzing mice' are born with an inner ear defect which will make them run in circles throughout the duration of their lives.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...TWO-hours.html
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A glitch in the Matrix?
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Old 13th June 2019, 11:35 AM   #27
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Perhaps the mouse has developed a hearing problem from an unsafe vaccine while doing full immersion VR on a flat earth on board a plane you've never heard of.
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Exorcism called for. One of the threads here has the details of a practitioner who's developed an interesting new approach.
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A glitch in the Matrix?
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Is he trying to leave the EU?

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Pith nom.
Half the posts in this thread are worthy of a nom. I'm feeling guilty at the suffering the poor little mouse has to do to inspire such fine writing.

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I think so.

Apparently, this can happen to hamsters and gerbils who get serious ear infections.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikih...erbils%3famp=1
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Running mindlessly round in circles? It is the mouse equivalent of participating in an internet debate.
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I've heard that Toxoplasma gondii can make rodents seek out or at least lose the fear of the smell of cats, but never heard of anything this bizarre.

And update: I nudged the mouse into a box and it settled down a bit but started running in circles again after a few seconds. I released it and it behaved seemingly normal, running away from me in straight lines when I tried to chase it.

This is super interesting but disturbing.
Wait one ... Am I to understand you caught it and released it again still in the house?
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Wait one ... Am I to understand you caught it and released it again still in the house?
lol

I walked the box about 100 meters to a patch of dirt under a street light.
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I walked the box about 100 meters to a patch of dirt under a street light.

I have a friend who used to play catch and release with mice. I was there one day when she just took it outside and let it go. It wandered around the yard for a few seconds then Bam! A magpie swooped down from the sky...


No more mouse.


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I have a friend who used to play catch and release with mice.



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We've had cats that did that.
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When I was a teenager we had a few mice in the house. My dad was a really really soft-hearted guy (he once took a detour so he would not have to pass where he had earlier hit a squirrel), and had what must have been the world's smallest Havahart trap. He would catch a mouse, take it down the road and release it. After a while, he had a feeling he was seeing the same mice, so he went to a biologist friend and got some mouse dye (really, that's what he asked for....I need some mouse dye...and the guy went to a cabinet and produced a little bottle with a dropper containing....mouse dye) that would not wash off, and dyed a spot on the next mouse he caught. Sure enough, back it came. Experimentation found that even with fairly hazardous terrain, about a mile was the point at which you could pretty well guarantee that a mouse would not return.

I sometimes wonder whether anyone else caught mice elsewhere in town and thought to themselves, "I wonder why that mouse has a blue dot on his belly?"
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