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Old 30th June 2020, 10:41 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
Which has squat to do with Reddit deleting forums they don't like.
Today it's r/fatchicksfallingdown, tomorrow the Gestapo pulling people out of their homes!
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Old 30th June 2020, 10:50 AM   #42
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GOOGLE THREATENS TO DEFUND TECHDIRT? Where Are All The Politicians Complaining?

Excellent article by Mike Masnick about this manufactroversy.
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Old 30th June 2020, 10:56 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I've already said I don't know why the people who run Reddit do what they do, it's their business, not mine. I don't think it's my burden to determine why other people do things. Nor is it a requirement to have a theory in order to disprove another theory. Nobody knows where all the missing dark matter in the universe is, that doesn't mean we can't dismiss the theory that Katy Perry is responsible for hiding it via witchcraft.
I'm only asking for suggestions - I think I already pointed out this is just a casual forum, not a scientific paper. I simple "I don't know" would have done"

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I'm not talking about "violent rape fantasies", that's your characterization of Reddit threads. Regardless of what the talk is about, you still set talking as equivalent to action. You're just trying to avoid admitting that by exaggerating how bad the talking was.
It's not my characterisation, its what they are - I don't think the membership would allow me to post them here so I unfortunately can't show you I'm not exaggerating but if you persist with this claim then membership be dammed

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And yet you demand I explain things to your satisfaction, and that I come up with alternate theories before challenging yours.
Not to my satisfaction, just a little more than "It's definitely not what you just said"


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eta: oh, and also? That's not a good defense to sexism. "I was just talking casually"? Really?
Yeah really - If I was sexist its because the tech industry, being 75% men is sexist

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Old 30th June 2020, 11:00 AM   #44
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All roads lead to terrorgram. I don't think there's much point to worrying about these people radicalizing, there's already ample avenues for that. If kicking them to the curb makes public spaces more enjoyable to the rest of us, it's a good move.
Yeah, I agree. I probably shouldn't have even said my other point, it was just me typing stream-of-consciousness again. I really wasn't trying to impugn Reddit's decision at all.

I've been afraid of waking up in The Handmaid's Tale or worse for quite awhile now, and it just comes through in the **** I say. The pandemic has pushed me over the edge into "unstable doomer" territory.
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Old 30th June 2020, 11:11 AM   #45
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This is a common sentiment about Reddit, and I'm sure it's true. I never really had the patience to dig deep looking for good subs. I always ended up angry, for one reason or another, every time I visited the site. Finally, I admitted this to myself and just stopped visiting.

I think I may have had bad luck, too. I made the mistake of going into music subs for different genres, since I love many different genres of music. Turns out though, people in genre subs are drama SORCERORS. Gatekeeping, nitpicking, judgmental buttholes. "Ugh, this isn't vaporwave, it's synthwave, you obvious poser. Go back to your Beyonce remixes." **** off!

So yeah, I'm sure there's good there. It's a huge website. I just found the parts of the culture I encountered off-putting.
The Reddit that I read are sub forums that I have located with their search feature. I type in my interests and chose those subs that are on topic. There may be only 4 or 5 subs that I read, but find them enjoyable. I bypass politics. (I do like their true-crime forum.)
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Old 30th June 2020, 11:29 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by wasapi View Post
The Reddit that I read are sub forums that I have located with their search feature. I type in my interests and chose those subs that are on topic. There may be only 4 or 5 subs that I read, but find them enjoyable. I bypass politics. (I do like their true-crime forum.)
There are some very good Reddit subforums. I like the ones with cute animal photos and videos, and also wedding disaster tales. I don't know why but I do enjoy a good story of a bad wedding disaster.
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Forbes claims that shutting out extremist right wingers is simply good business:

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Discord Was Once The Alt-Right’s Favorite Chat App. Now It’s Gone Mainstream And Scored A New $3.5 Billion Valuation

By shutting out white supremacists and reinventing itself to be more accessible, Discord has added millions of more diverse users—teachers, Boy Scouts, book clubs, Black Lives Matter protestors—and landed a $100 million infusion from investors.
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Old 30th June 2020, 11:49 AM   #48
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I know, I said that same thing in a later post.

I was opining about my fears that once these groups go underground, they often get worse. I'm not really saying I expect anyone to do anything about that. I'm just scared of the world these days. This particular fixation got kicked off for me when this big Nazi forum went offline in March.

As an aside, why did you put "banning" in scare quotes? Is that not what they call it? Just curious.
Seriously how do you know they get worse? I would say all that happens is that they can't attract new people as easily. These types of people have always been with us, the Internet services have for this type unfortunately made it much easier for them to connect, these bannings help reverse that ease so I'm all for them.
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Old 30th June 2020, 12:14 PM   #49
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I was opining about my fears that once these groups go underground, they often get worse.
That's actually kind of a good sign.

I think when these kinds of communities go underground, they tend to show their true face, and that makes recruiting that much harder.

I'll give you the eaxmple of pizzagate.

When they had a bunch of active subreddits and conversation was common on conspiracy forums, the moderating influence of a large public allowed them to skirt the lines of "just asking questions" and framing things in plausible ways, part of a wider conversation about sex trafficking, distrust of authorities and issues that actually exist. To people not probing too deeply and with a pre-existing bias against the politicians it targeted, it may have looked like something that warranted explaining.

When they got kicked off and the whole community went to the Voat site instead, it didn't take long before it became literally "The Jews are kidnapping babies to eat them". No more plausible deniability of the ******* craziness of the idea, no more just asking questions, nothing for moderates to slide into.

When toxic communities go underground, they say what's truly on their minds, which looks a lot uglier than their public face, but it's **** as a recruitment tool.
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One of the alleged virtues of capitalism is supposed to be its amorality. Rationally self-interested consumers purchase a product based on quality and price. They do not consider if it was made by slaves, or if it's environmentally unsustainable, but it also does not matter if it's being sold by poor immigrants or enriches the business of a transgender woman. Capitalism helps people get along because they are encouraged to set aside issues of identity. If an atheist lesbian bakes the best cakes at the best prices, then those are the ones you buy.

Consumers (to their credit) now care about some of these moral issues, so producers (thinking of their pocket book) cater those demands. Burger King recently decalared itself "Burger Queer," the now-standard "Rainbow Capitalism" used to get the green. Someone in a comment section remarked, "I do not patronize businesses that engage in virtue signaling." So I guess he's not going to shop at places that make a special effort to hire veterans, or offer senior citizens discounts (unless its a matter of strict, profit-maximizing price-discrimination).

A boycott seems like a reasonable (last) measure against bus companies that discriminate on the basis of race. The problem is when people have the most petty hair-trigger. You're not going to watch the NFL because a few players kneel during the National Anthem? You're not going to use Firefox because the CEO made a $1,000 donation ten years ago to support proposition eight (at a time when Barack Obama publicly opposed same-sex marriage)?

I don't have enough time to think through and defend a position at the moment, but my inclination is that these right-wing neo-fascists should not be removed. If I go to a bar and see someone's wearing a pro-Trump shirt, should I complain to the manager? What if she has on a MAGA hat? What if she's wearing a swastika? "If you do not remove that customer, then I will forever send my business elsewhere."

Now if the bar owner loves and glorifies Nazis, then, yeah, I wouldn't go there. But if it's a space for freaks and misfits, then what the hell? We should allow a wide berth for political expression. Reddit and Youtube can donate whatever profits they derive from odious content to progressive causes.

People on the left are weaponizing capitalism to literally make it more difficult for others to publicly express their views. One can always say, "Well, it's my right." Yeah, sure, but it's not fostering a culture of free speech. And free-speech is related to free thought. If others are not able to express their views, then you/me/everyone is less able to meaningfully think about those views.
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Old 30th June 2020, 12:50 PM   #51
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Seriously how do you know they get worse? I would say all that happens is that they can't attract new people as easily. These types of people have always been with us, the Internet services have for this type unfortunately made it much easier for them to connect, these bannings help reverse that ease so I'm all for them.

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That's actually kind of a good sign.

I think when these kinds of communities go underground, they tend to show their true face, and that makes recruiting that much harder.

I'll give you the eaxmple of pizzagate.

When they had a bunch of active subreddits and conversation was common on conspiracy forums, the moderating influence of a large public allowed them to skirt the lines of "just asking questions" and framing things in plausible ways, part of a wider conversation about sex trafficking, distrust of authorities and issues that actually exist. To people not probing too deeply and with a pre-existing bias against the politicians it targeted, it may have looked like something that warranted explaining.

When they got kicked off and the whole community went to the Voat site instead, it didn't take long before it became literally "The Jews are kidnapping babies to eat them". No more plausible deniability of the ******* craziness of the idea, no more just asking questions, nothing for moderates to slide into.

When toxic communities go underground, they say what's truly on their minds, which looks a lot uglier than their public face, but it's **** as a recruitment tool.
Actually, that's a really good point.
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That's actually kind of a good sign.

I think when these kinds of communities go underground, they tend to show their true face, and that makes recruiting that much harder.

Back in the 1990s, there was an episode of "The John Larroquette Show" in which the main character refused to rent a bus to a group of Nazis who were planning a public outing to celebrate Hitler's birthday. The lawyer that they hired to sue the bus company, who was Jewish, argued that it was better for people like them to be out in the open where the public could see them and laugh at them, instead of growing and festering unnoticed in dark corners like mold.
As we've now seen, it doesn't always work that way.
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Back in the 1990s, there was an episode of "The John Larroquette Show" in which the main character refused to rent a bus to a group of Nazis who were planning a public outing to celebrate Hitler's birthday. The lawyer that they hired to sue the bus company, who was Jewish, argued that it was better for people like them to be out in the open where the public could see them and laugh at them, instead of growing and festering unnoticed in dark corners like mold.
As we've now seen, it doesn't always work that way.
That's fine for a group going to one location. But on the internet it has turned into a nightmare.
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People on the left are weaponizing capitalism to literally make it more difficult for others to publicly express their views. One can always say, "Well, it's my right." Yeah, sure, but it's not fostering a culture of free speech. And free-speech is related to free thought. If others are not able to express their views, then you/me/everyone is less able to meaningfully think about those views.
We've never had a culture of "free speech" in that sense. There have always been serious economic and financial consequences for speech.

For most of our history, it's been what we might now consider conservative values that dictate the consequences.
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Is this a rosy new dawn of the right way to think or just heavy handed censorship?

It's suicide.
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We've never had a culture of "free speech" in that sense. There have always been serious economic and financial consequences for speech.

For most of our history, it's been what we might now consider conservative values that dictate the consequences.

That is the worst kind af being Cained! When he seems to actually mean it.
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The new definition of right by the left is getting amusing.
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I note that Reddit is still allowing all the rape and misogyny subs so you can still freely discuss bashing women's heads in with hammers
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Perhaps - I don't often see those in "Hot" though
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Vile bigotry as seen in r/gendercritical and not say r/pussypassdenied - it seems to be that while words are violence, actual violence, when directed at women, often isn't
Reddit is not YouTube

If you have issues with what gets posted on Reddit, is suggest you contact them about it.

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The new definition of right by the left is getting amusing.
This "new definition of right" exists only in your head.

You have openly admitted on this forum that you don't know jack **** about US politics, and your exposure to "the right" in NZ is limited to National, Jonkey, ACT and Roger Douglas. They would all be further left than the Democratic Party in the US - NZ doesn't have a real right wing party.
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Reddit is not YouTube

If you have issues with what gets posted on Reddit, is suggest you contact them about it.

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I have done - the problem seems to be that these posts aren't content policy violations

I don't understand what you mean by not Youtube
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We've never had a culture of "free speech" in that sense. There have always been serious economic and financial consequences for speech.
This is not completely true. In California, and other state (and municipalities), it can be illegal for an employer to fire or demote someone for political activity outside of the workplace.

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For most of our history, it's been what we might now consider conservative values that dictate the consequences.
Contrary to American mythology, we have not long-enjoyed free expression, especially as we now understand it. It wasn't until Supreme Court rulings in the 60s when speech regularly became protected, and liberty in this regard has generally expanded (to the point that obscenity is dead). A little over 30 years ago, a notorious conservative Supreme Court justice famously sided with liberals when it came to protecting flag burning.

It's also not necessarily a matter of whether we have had a culture of freedom of expression. We have not long had a widely accessible Internet. In the modern imagination, the United States is a nation of immigrants; until recently, we had a bipartisan agreement that it was part of our identity. A pro-immigrant-ethos is based in part on mythology -- conveniently forgetting darker times in the country's history. A culture of expression is also part myth that has been integrated into our ethos, and an ethos is not just a matter of fact but aspiration.

"I'm in all favor allowing Nazis to shout from the corner of my favorite ice cream shop. I won't write to legislators and vote to get rid of them because it's their sacred right to be on our streets."

I think what people need to do is reassess why they might passionately believe mobs are not allowed to use the government to restrict speech. I suspect the immediate answer is, "There are alternatives." But the current culture seems bent on stamping out those alternatives as well. In the end, it seems to always come back to "freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
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Democracy at its best. Voltaire said it best. I may disagree with everything you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it. Youtube is very offbase doing this. If you disagree with whats being said you can argue with them in the comments section. No need to ban them.


Oh, that is so funny? I had to recheck you username to make sure I wasn't seeing double


You really haven't been keeping up with current events have you?
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This "new definition of right" exists only in your head.

You have openly admitted on this forum that you don't know jack **** about US politics, and your exposure to "the right" in NZ is limited to National, Jonkey, ACT and Roger Douglas. They would all be further left than the Democratic Party in the US - NZ doesn't have a real right wing party.
This has no relevance to the OP referring to the "right" and then not mentioning the people in it are far right, while also being racist, bigots.

It is a bit like me saying "The left, the ones who like to sink ships and physically attack people eg Sea Shepherd....."
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That is the worst kind af being Cained! When he seems to actually mean it.
I assumed this was one of his rare lapses into sincerity (I almost prefaced my post with a statement to that effect). After reading his other reply, I'm honestly still not sure.
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Even if 99% of nurses are female it's sexist to assume any given nurse must be female.
TIL statistics is sexist now.

Yes, if there is nurse that I know nothing about, I will assume they are female until proven otherwise. Only delusional folk like you can think it is sexist in any way.

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I assumed this was one of his rare lapses into sincerity (I almost prefaced my post with a statement to that effect).
He DOES that sometimes - talking out of character. Lately he does that more often. I take it as bad sign for USA.

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After reading his other reply, I'm honestly still not sure.
There is nothing preventing Cain talking out of character in one post, then in-character in next post.
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Wow, it was apparently a massacre at Reddit yesterday! I didn't realize the scope. Around 2,000 subreddits banned, and not all of them were right-wing either. A lot of them were inactive. (Somehow, r/pussypassdenied and r/deadeyes still exist, but oh well - it might just be my personal bias that makes those seem as bad as the others.)

Interestingly, news sources are saying that The_Donald sub was basically inactive prior to this culling. I find that extremely confusing, as I thought it was one of the most popular Reddit communities. Had they already moved underground to plot all our deaths, like I tend to worry about?
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Old Yesterday, 09:45 AM   #67
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Originally Posted by Cavemonster View Post
When they got kicked off and the whole community went to the Voat site instead, it didn't take long before it became literally "The Jews are kidnapping babies to eat them". No more plausible deniability of the ******* craziness of the idea, no more just asking questions, nothing for moderates to slide into
Not heard of Voat before so went and checked it out. Wow. Those posters are something um special.
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Originally Posted by Butter! View Post
Wow, it was apparently a massacre at Reddit yesterday! I didn't realize the scope. Around 2,000 subreddits banned, and not all of them were right-wing either. A lot of them were inactive. (Somehow, r/pussypassdenied and r/deadeyes still exist, but oh well - it might just be my personal bias that makes those seem as bad as the others.)

Interestingly, news sources are saying that The_Donald sub was basically inactive prior to this culling. I find that extremely confusing, as I thought it was one of the most popular Reddit communities. Had they already moved underground to plot all our deaths, like I tend to worry about?
The_Donald was in quarantine for a while at this point, and I think the leaders there rightly perceived that the platform was not one they could rely on in the future. My understanding is that there was a concerted effort to move the community elsewhere and it was largely inactive by the time the ban-hammer struck.

There's really no reason to worry about it going more underground. There was already plenty of cross communication between the above ground stuff like reddit and less savory places like 4chan, stormfront, terrorgram, etc. It's not like the_donald users weren't also exposed to more virulent outlets.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Even if 99% of nurses are female it's sexist to assume any given nurse must be female.
Err, no. It isn't - not by a long, long way. Since when is making a reasonable statistical guess sexist?

Next thing you'll be telling us that if 99% of Angolans are black then assuming that any given Angolan would likely be black, would be racist.

Your sort of argument is cringeworthy - it is also bloody annoying. Its hard enough to argue against misogyny and racism, especially on this forum, without you giving misogynists and racists the ammunition they need to argue that those of us who stand for equality for women and people of colour are all a bunch of loony left wing liberals.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Err, no. It isn't - not by a long, long way. Since when is making a reasonable statistical guess sexist?

Next thing you'll be telling us that if 99% of Angolans are black then assuming that any given Angolan would likely be black, would be racist.

Your sort of argument is cringeworthy - it is also bloody annoying. Its hard enough to argue against misogyny and racism, especially on this forum, without you giving misogynists and racists the ammunition they need to argue that those of us who stand for equality for women and people of colour are all a bunch of loony left wing liberals.
If 90% of convicted felons are of a particular ethnicity is it racist to assume that a given prisoner is probably that ethnicity? If a 90% of terrorists are of a particular religion is it okay to assume any given terrorist is probably that religion? If most world leaders are male would it be sexist to stride into the presidential palace of a country whose leader you know nothing about and say "Where is he, where is the president man? Hi, honey, go fetch your boss. You're probably not the president because statistically it's unlikely"?
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I note that Reddit is still allowing all the rape and misogyny subs so you can still freely discuss bashing women's heads in with hammers
hey, Reddit is pretty much a cesspool anyway. Visit there, you dersreve what you get.
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This was from the (since changed) updated content policy on Reddit:

"While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate." (emphasis mine)

People had to point out in the announcement tread that this would allow attacks on women and the poor...
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
If 90% of convicted felons are of a particular ethnicity is it racist to assume that a given prisoner is probably that ethnicity? If a 90% of terrorists are of a particular religion is it okay to assume any given terrorist is probably that religion? If most world leaders are male would it be sexist to stride into the presidential palace of a country whose leader you know nothing about and say "Where is he, where is the president man? Hi, honey, go fetch your boss. You're probably not the president because statistically it's unlikely"?
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
If 90% of convicted felons are of a particular ethnicity is it racist to assume that a given prisoner is probably that ethnicity?
Nope, its a reasonable statistical guess.

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
if a 90% of terrorists are of a particular religion is it okay to assume any given terrorist is probably that religion?
Nope, its a reasonable statistical guess.

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If most world leaders are male would it be sexist to stride into the presidential palace of a country whose leader you know nothing about and say "Where is he, where is the president man? Hi, honey, go fetch your boss. You're probably not the president because statistically it's unlikely"?
You've changed the conditions of the scenario in order to pre-empt any argument against the original scenario - there is a name for that.

It is also a really stupid argument anyway - so stupid it doesn't even deserve an answer beyond what I have already given.
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Originally Posted by Manger Douse View Post
Vile bigotry as seen in r/gendercritical and not say r/pussypassdenied - it seems to be that while words are violence, actual violence, when directed at women, often isn't
I'm familiar with r/pussypassdenied though I don't visit with any regularity. I think my partner pointed it out to me through a few posts long before I started using reddit, back in 2012 or so...

Anyway, my impression from what I've seen of the subreddit was that it wasn't just aimless violence aimed at women but that it's about woman not getting away with a "pussy pass" (criminal sentencing, being violent and not expecting violence in return, other special female privileges).

Now, it's always possible the culture of the subreddit itself is different than the stated aims (and what just the top comments show) but I don't recall ever seeing a comment that was hateful or condoning of undeserved violence towards women. I'm sure there are.
However, the subreddit rules state:

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Welcome to /r/pussypassdenied, where women are not allowed to use their gender as a handicap or an excuse to act like ********. Yay equality!


THIS IS NOT /R/BEATINGWOMEN. /r/pussypassdenied is not for misogynists, racists, or otherwise douchy types of individuals. To be clear: PPD DOES NOT MEAN THAT A WOMAN NEEDS TO REFER VERBALLY TO HER GENDER. FEMINIST ACTS, A MAN DEFENDING HIMSELF, AND OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE WOMEN DO SOMETHING THAT IMPLIES THEY WILL SUFFER NO REPERCUSSIONS ARE FAIR GAME.

REASONABLY THOUGHT OUT EXPOSURE OF FEMINISM IS A GRAY AREA. VISIBILITY OF SAID POSTS WILL BE DETERMINED BY VOTES.

Any post that shows physical force against a woman that wasn’t instigated or excessive retaliation to instigation will be removed. Please report if you see a violation of this rule.
Is it not therefore likely that the moderators of that subreddit try to do a good job of keeping crappy people out or banned?
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I think what happens is that a more explicit sub is banned and then the users flock to a more subtle sub. It was around the time r/beatingwomen was banned that posts and comments that were explicitly violent started and the mods on PPD struggled to keep up. Same with the The_Donald and subs like r/conservative and r/conspiracy
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All I'm asking is for some consistency - To understand why gender critical subs have been shut down but ones about wank fantasies of stoving womens heads in are allowed. Why do you think that's the case?
Because Reddit isn't just one forum. It's thousands of different ones, each with its own moderation staff and content policy. You think herding cats is hard? Try herding 110,000 of them, when each one wants to go in a different direction.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Because Reddit isn't just one forum. It's thousands of different ones, each with its own moderation staff and content policy. You think herding cats is hard? Try herding 110,000 of them, when each one wants to go in a different direction.
Especially difficult when some of those cats are denied passes!
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Especially difficult when some of those cats are denied passes!
I think I see where you went wrong. That forum name is in reference to bus passes covered in pus. It has nothing to do with kitties.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Because Reddit isn't just one forum. It's thousands of different ones, each with its own moderation staff and content policy. You think herding cats is hard? Try herding 110,000 of them, when each one wants to go in a different direction.
What? There's is a central admin team that banning these subs recently - its not complete anarchy
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