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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:17 PM   #2001
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Originally Posted by dann View Post
I have seen several from her opponents. Even the POTUS (speaking of people with tantrums) has felt the need to belittle her.
That doesn't mean anything. He belittles everyone who doesn't suck up to him. It's one of the diagnostic criteria for his mental illness.
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Old 23rd June 2020, 07:32 AM   #2002
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Apparently while travelling through north America the only area she felt a need to call the police because of threats and harassment was in Alberta, Canada. No wonder that these people wanted to ravish this innocent maiden. Personally I think Canada must ******* pay for this crime.
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Old 30th June 2020, 02:14 PM   #2003
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Hot Damn ! The more this kid goes on, the more I like her.

Greta Thunberg hits out at leaders who use her fame to 'look good'

She's a smart girl, I'm sure she has the same suspicions about the vast majority of her followers and knows that it would be suicidal to say that.
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I told you so.
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Um, yeeah? Is there a problem? Is there any doubt that world leaders have an incredibly shallow and publicity-driven view of environmental issues?

I fail to see anything wrong with the article.
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Old 1st July 2020, 08:36 AM   #2006
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Um, yeeah? Is there a problem? Is there any doubt that world leaders have an incredibly shallow and publicity-driven view of environmental issues?

I fail to see anything wrong with the article.
There's no problem. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Old 1st July 2020, 09:27 AM   #2007
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Um, yeeah? Is there a problem? Is there any doubt that world leaders have an incredibly shallow and publicity-driven view of environmental issues?

I fail to see anything wrong with the article.
It's relevant to one of the recurring themes in the debate about the value and efficacy of Greta's activism.

It's been proposed more than once that the organizers of COP25 and Davos, who invited Greta to speak, did so as a PR strategy rather than out of any sincere intent to act on her proposals. It was virtue signaling, designed to curry favor with the masses, without actually doing anything to earn that favor.

The article reports that Greta herself sees politicians behaving exactly this way. Angela Merkel knows that putting a selfie with Greta on her social media generates a lot of PR value for little effort, and doesn't require making any difficult policy changes at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if, ten years from now, she gives an interview saying her Davos and COP appearances were a waste of time, that they didn't change anything, and that she regrets letting herself be used as a political PR prop for so many years.
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I wouldn't be surprised if, ten years from now, she gives an interview saying her Davos and COP appearances were a waste of time, that they didn't change anything, and that she regrets letting herself be used as a political PR prop for so many years.
Well she's already said that last part. It's in the linked article.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Well she's already said that last part. It's in the linked article.
Then she's already on the path to wisdom.
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Originally Posted by 8enotto View Post
Brasil has all to do with the Amazon jungle and it's use or preservation. At least it isn't really that great lung of the world it's hyped up for. Oceans make 90% of oxygen, not plants.
Somebody who makes save the rainforest propaganda isn't listening to the scientific stuff.
Oceans aren't doing too well either. I read somewhere that with climate change that won't be a thing either
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
It's relevant to one of the recurring themes in the debate about the value and efficacy of Greta's activism.

It's been proposed more than once that the organizers of COP25 and Davos, who invited Greta to speak, did so as a PR strategy rather than out of any sincere intent to act on her proposals. It was virtue signaling, designed to curry favor with the masses, without actually doing anything to earn that favor.

The article reports that Greta herself sees politicians behaving exactly this way. Angela Merkel knows that putting a selfie with Greta on her social media generates a lot of PR value for little effort, and doesn't require making any difficult policy changes at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if, ten years from now, she gives an interview saying her Davos and COP appearances were a waste of time, that they didn't change anything, and that she regrets letting herself be used as a political PR prop for so many years.

Wow. You've actually turned into a Greta fan.
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Old 2nd July 2020, 12:58 AM   #2012
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Originally Posted by Arcade22 View Post
Apparently while travelling through north America the only area she felt a need to call the police because of threats and harassment was in Alberta, Canada. No wonder that these people wanted to ravish this innocent maiden. Personally I think Canada must ******* pay for this crime.
I watched that incident live on TV. To the best of my recollection - a female reporter along with a camera operator were following her down an open hallway and she asked Miss Thunberg to better explain her remarks about something. Nobody ever claimed what the reporter asked was out of line or insulting or provocative.
The reporter was not loud or threatening in any manner and the security personnel and Greta's handlers did not seem concerned. It was pretty innocuous and something that happens to thousands of public personalities every day. It was certainly not something that could be associated to paparazzi like treatment.
Miss Thunberg suddenly turned around and vehemently and loudly threatened to call the police and have the reporter arrested. To say the reporter was shocked would be an understatement. Miss Thunberg's handlers looked shocked as well and immediately grabbed her and lead her away.

That being said - I do not hold this isolated incident against Miss Thunberg. Everybody has bad days.
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I watched that incident live on TV.
Live? You mean in real-time, as it happened? No wonder she was upset.
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Old 2nd July 2020, 06:35 AM   #2014
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Wow. You've actually turned into a Greta fan.
Turned into? That isn't even the most supportive thing I've said about Greta in this thread.

I don't begrudge her the sailboat ride, if that's what you mean.
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets View Post
Live? You mean in real-time, as it happened? No wonder she was upset.
I was in the Global BC television Studio in Burnaby BC with my daughter and a very close family friend who has now retired from the business. The well known broadcaster was a mentor to my daughter. So yes - it was live and uncut and not what the general public saw because it was a satellite feed to the network affiliates.
The edited footage showing Miss Thunberg making the threat was shown on the BC Global newscast that night - but not the longer lead-up to the incident or the aftermath.
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