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Old 10th June 2020, 10:52 PM   #281
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Originally Posted by dann View Post
Since you are so concerned about violence and destruction of property: Do you know who happens to be much, much better at that? (Forbes, Dec. 3, 2020)
You know Dan, getting your references from the future is just plan wrong man....
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Old 11th June 2020, 01:24 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
You know Dan, getting your references from the future is just plan wrong man....

Yes, if it had only been a day instead of a year, I could have claimed that it was a different time zone. It's not convincing to argue that it was a different year zone.
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Old 11th June 2020, 01:28 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Groups like AntiFa make it clear to Facist groups that they can't hide behind free speech and appeals to tolerance to undermine free speech and tolerance.

But it's impossible to make that clear to conservatives and other Republicans, who are always busy helping the Nazis' paint their hiding place.
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Old 11th June 2020, 09:44 AM   #284
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Black entrepreneurs toured an upscale California neighborhood. False claims spread online
https://www.sacbee.com/community/fol...243339696.html

More antifa hysteria calling for violence against peaceful people minding their own business.

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“This is not a joke,” read the Facebook post. “They are currently in my nieces neighborhood. Where are all my Second Amendment Peeps at?? May need to call on you today.”

The photo depicted nearly 20 young men and women, the majority of whom were black, walking through an upscale El Dorado Hills neighborhood.

In reality, the image was of an ambitious entrepreneurial group touring homes.
The gang of antifa raiders turned out to be a mentorship program for minority entrepreneurs.
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Old 11th June 2020, 09:50 AM   #285
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WAPO dunking on Trump's bizarre conspiracy theory:

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Know The Signs: How to tell if your grandparent has become an antifa agent
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-antifa-agent/
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Old 11th June 2020, 10:00 AM   #286
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
“This is not a joke,” read the Facebook post. “They are currently in my nieces neighborhood. Where are all my Second Amendment Peeps at?? May need to call on you today.”
What the hell is that supposed to mean? (sorry, that's rhetorical)

But I do want to know, since when has the second amendment come to mean "We have to shoot someone we don't like?"

I thought the point of the 2A was to allow citizens to protect themselves from the tyranny of the government? Since when is a vigilante lynch mob a well-regulated militia?
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Originally Posted by Emily's Cat View Post
I think perhaps you mistake my point.
Like all the good people at the unite the right march until those evil antifa showed up and ruined everything!
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Old 11th June 2020, 11:00 AM   #288
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
https://www.sacbee.com/community/fol...243339696.html

More antifa hysteria calling for violence against peaceful people minding their own business.

The gang of antifa raiders turned out to be a mentorship program for minority entrepreneurs.

Yes, but "the majority of whom were black"!!!


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Air Force sergeant that murdered one cop, wounded another and suspected in another killing is linked to Boogaloo movement.

More evidence of right wing extremists trying to escalate violence. Still no evidence of antifa agitators.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/...al-cops-death/
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...Meanwhile, in my wife's birthplace of Snohomish, WA, the police chief fell for a hoax report and invited armed loons into town for, his words, "a festive night of tailgating and celebratory pleasantries." They were drinking in public while carrying guns and intimidating law abiding citizens.
Snohomish is policed by the county under an agreement and this moron has been reassigned but is still a lieutenant in the sheriff's department.


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Bullies are people too, ya' know!!
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Old 12th June 2020, 12:22 PM   #291
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Originally Posted by Arcade22 View Post
Denying people freedom of opinions and thoughts just because you find theirs objectionable, which is exactly what you do, is certainly just as awful as denying people protection from violence just because of their ancestry.

Why do you hate freedom?

Why do the police in Sweden forbid protests against racism?
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Old 12th June 2020, 12:25 PM   #292
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No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest (NPR, June 9, 2020)
Federal Arrests Show No Sign that Antifa Plotted Protests (NYT, June 11, 2020)
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Old 14th June 2020, 04:02 AM   #293
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Yet another Antifa call for violence just came in. They are calling for people to engage in violence against right-wing pixels on a pixel-grid canvas website where each person can only change 1 pixel every minute. Right-wing sources complain about being denied free speech and deplore the extremist violence against pixels merely for their political beliefs. On the other hand, Antifa sources say that the fascists are just still salty for having lost the battle of pixelgrad 4 years ago:
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Old 14th June 2020, 04:26 AM   #294
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Denying people freedom of opinions and thoughts just because you find theirs objectionable, which is exactly what you do, is certainly just as awful as denying people protection from violence just because of their ancestry.

Why do you hate freedom?
Yawn.

The most favorite (and most silly) generalization from right wingers.

"People with low income should pay the hightest tax rate" is an opinion one could find objectionable.

"People with dark skin color are more likely to commit crimes, they are also less intelligent on average" is not. It can only be deemed despicable and has nothing to do with "muh freedom".

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Yet another Antifa call for violence just came in. They are calling for people to engage in violence against right-wing pixels on a pixel-grid canvas website where each person can only change 1 pixel every minute. Right-wing sources complain about being denied free speech and deplore the extremist violence against pixels merely for their political beliefs. On the other hand, Antifa sources say that the fascists are just still salty for having lost the battle of pixelgrad 4 years ago:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...602385521d.gif

What's the point of this battle? I don't see it at all.
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Old 14th June 2020, 05:06 AM   #296
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Yawn.

The most favorite (and most silly) generalization from right wingers.

"People with low income should pay the hightest tax rate" is an opinion one could find objectionable.

"People with dark skin color are more likely to commit crimes, they are also less intelligent on average" is not. It can only be deemed despicable and has nothing to do with "muh freedom".

I don't think that Arcade22 is a true right winger.
The problem is that many people who consider themselves to be centrists also seem to think that it makes them more centrist if they buy into every lie that right wingers tell about socialists and anti-fascists. They consider this to be a kind of proof of their centrism and objectivity - sometimes to the extent that they object when false quotations created by fascists and accredited to socialists are exposed as fabrications.
This kind of alleged centrists hate to see their idea that 'socialists are just as bad as Nazis' ruined by facts. They are also often the kind of people who claim that 'Hitler was a socialist and so was Stalin.'
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What's the point of this battle? I don't see it at all.
It's a common leftist thing to remove swastikas and other neo-nazi propaganda. Sometimes by overwriting it (say with stickers) or recuperating it (such as here). The point is that by leaving walls and other public canvases, including digital ones, filled with swastikas and other neo-nazi propaganda it 1) normalizes neo-nazism and 2) gives neo-nazis self-confidence which leads to an increase in violent attacks against leftists.
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There is no point, just dick-waving.
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There is no point, just dick-waving.
Don't worry, there are plenty of other places on the internet left to go see swastikas and sunwheels and stuff, you won't be running out.
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I think it takes an awful lot of pixels to counter-balance one fascist president.
What is happening in the streets right now is more effective than any pixel game. The "self-confidence" of neo-nazis is waning rapidly, but I am not sure that it will make them any less violent in the near future.
They will probably become more desperate than they already are.
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I think it takes an awful lot of pixels to counter-balance one fascist president.
What is happening in the streets right now is more effective than any pixel game. The "self-confidence" of neo-nazis is waning rapidly, but I am not sure that it will make them any less violent in the near future.
Is this going to be one of those beautiful moments of irony where it turns out that 1) you are not, in fact, participating in what is happening in the streets, 2) many of the people helping to restore the canvas after fascist vandalism are participating in what is happening in the streets, and 3) all you are, in fact, participating in is "pixel games" (making pixels appear in a certain fashion on a website called "international skeptics forum") complaining about others cleaning up fascist vandalism in a different "pixel game"?
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Roofing company workers forced onto ground, held at gunpoint by man who thought they were Antifa

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The incident unfolded after the man called police, said there were two men wearing masks near his home, and announced he was armed and going to go confront them, Loveland Police Lt. Bob Shaffer confirmed to 9Wants to Know.

When officers arrived in the 2400 block of Dawn Court around 6 p.m. Thursday, they encountered Scott Gudmundsen (pictured) – dressed in fatigues and holding two men on the ground at gunpoint, Shaffer said.

But the men weren’t troublemakers – they work for a local roofing company and were wearing blue polo shirts with the firm’s name on them, shorts, tennis shoes and white surgical-style masks, Shaffer said.

One of them is a Colorado State University football player who is 20 years old and works part-time at the roofing company. The student is a "man of color," according to a statement from the university.
Loveland, not feeling the love, apparently. Hail damage is very common here in late spring and early summer. It is normal for them to go door to door offering to do inspections. Normal for entire neighborhoods to all need new roof shingles all at once. Hail in Colorado can be a sight to behold.
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Yes, of course! Antifas! Who else would be wearing masks nowadays, right?!
Your link died (or maybe it's just in Europe), but this one (still?) works:
Colorado State player, coworker held at gunpoint by man who thought they were 'antifa guys' (Yahoo Sport, June 13, 2020)
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Another heavily armed right winger LARPing as law enforcement:

The man with the SS tattoo, originally thought to be a cop, has been charged with impersonating a police officer. He joined in the police skirmish line during the protests and falsely identified as some form of federal law enforcement.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...ficer-2051755/
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? (sorry, that's rhetorical)

But I do want to know, since when has the second amendment come to mean "We have to shoot someone we don't like?"

I thought the point of the 2A was to allow citizens to protect themselves from the tyranny of the government? Since when is a vigilante lynch mob a well-regulated militia?
Since the loons, gunfondlers and assorted not-really-nazis got involved.
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Another heavily armed right winger LARPing as law enforcement:

The man with the SS tattoo, originally thought to be a cop, has been charged with impersonating a police officer. He joined in the police skirmish line during the protests and falsely identified as some form of federal law enforcement.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...ficer-2051755/

With an SS tattoo and armed with an AR-15 rifle, I bet he was there to defend the Constitution. Does anybody know if the wife he mentioned actually exists?
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With an SS tattoo and armed with an AR-15 rifle, I bet he was there to defend the Constitution. Does anybody know if the wife he mentioned actually exists?
It's an interesting statement about racism in this country that the SS tattoo actually could be explained by his military service.

Marine Scout Snipers use the SS, exactly the same style as the notorious Nazi org, as their unofficial logo. It's been a matter of public scandal before when US military members have been seen with the logo.

I suppose it makes sourcing flags and patches easy.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
It's an interesting statement about racism in this country that the SS tattoo actually could be explained by his military service.

Marine Scout Snipers use the SS, exactly the same style as the notorious Nazi org, as their unofficial logo. It's been a matter of public scandal before when US military members have been seen with the logo.

I suppose it makes sourcing flags and patches easy.
Ya, that Midwestern Association of Soccer Scholars, informally known as the Kansas Knowledgable Kickers, faced a similar inexplicable name association dilemma
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Columbus Police Seize Bus Filled with Riot Equipment in Downtown Area (TheSciotoPost, June 1, 2020)

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The tweet and Facebook post have thousands of retweets and “likes” with people using it as an example of violent rioters at protests.
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Sen. Marco Rubio retweeted the police department’s photo, using it to criticize what he claims is an organized effort to incite violence at protests.
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Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther also tweeted about the bus, saying “the limited arrests to this point do not reflect the significant safety concerns we have for the city.”
“I would point to the recovery of a bus registered in Vermont filled with bats, rocks, meat cleavers and axes on Sunday night,” Ginther tweeted.
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Digati is part of a group who perform “flow arts,” an act that usually includes dance, juggling and spinning fire, her friend Stephen Palmer told Columbus Alive.
Colorful bus had ‘riot’ gear, Ohio cops say. Protesters say they’re ‘helpful hippies’ (StarTelegram, June 12, 2020)
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Old 16th June 2020, 05:20 AM   #310
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Are we allowed to say that the Columbus PD have beclowned themselves?

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Old 16th June 2020, 05:36 AM   #311
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Are we allowed to say that the Columbus PD have beclowned themselves?

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No, but you are allowed to say that the Columbus PD has engaged in a successful propaganda effort to spread fake news about "organized efforts to incite violence at protests" all the while retaining plausible deniability ("but we were just clowns, we had no idea!")
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More about the Columbus clowns here:
Late Night with Seth Meyers (June 16, 2020):
Supreme Court Rules on LGBTQ Rights, Police Reform Gains Steam: A Closer Look
The Columbus story begins at 7:55:
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And a story from Ohio. Conservative readers should be warned that it may not be a good idea to jump to conclusions halfway through the story. As usual, Bunker Boy did so, otherwise there probably wouldn't have been a story: Protester who Trump called an 'anarchist' on Twitter says he was just trying to help out (CNN, June 7, 2020)
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Man shot as New Mexico protesters try to remove Spanish conquistador statue

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-juan-de-onate

Right wing counterprotesters committing acts of violence yet again.

While initial reporting stated that the mob attacked the man and he may have acted in self defense, further video shows that he initiated violence and the crowd have good, lawful reason to forcibly detain him.

Here is video showing the shooter assaulting a protester immediately before he was ejected from the crowd and he opened fire.

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...75001200971777
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History buff? Defending his Hispanic heritage? Or colonizers in general?
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History buff? Defending his Hispanic heritage? Or colonizers in general?
His dad is a cop. He name drops the sheriffs office as he's being arrested.

Must have been where he learned to shoot unarmed people.
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I can see why they want to get rid of the statue of Oñate:

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Today Oñate is known for the 1599 Acoma Massacre. Following a dispute that led to the death of thirteen Spaniards at the hands of the Ácoma, including Oñate's nephew, Juan de Zaldívar, Oñate ordered a brutal retaliation against Acoma Pueblo. The Pueblo was destroyed. Around 800–1000 Ácoma were killed.
Of the 500 or so survivors, at a trial at Ohkay Owingeh, Oñate sentenced most to twenty years of forced "personal servitude" and additionally mandated that all men over the age of twenty-five have a foot cut off.
He was eventually banished from New Mexico and exiled from Mexico City for five years, convicted by the Spanish government of using "excessive force" against the Acoma people.
Juan de Oñate (Wikipedia)

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US attorney announces the gunman who allegedly killed two law enforcement officers in California was associated with the right-wing Boogaloo movement. A patch bearing the group’s symbol was found in the van used by the shooter in Oakland and Santa Cruz killings

https://twitter.com/passantino/statu...42500630626304

Confirmation of what was already widely suspected, the man that killed 2 cops and shot others was a right winger aligned with the "Boogaloo" community.

These antifascist super soldiers really need to get their act together, right wingers are totally stealing the "domestic terrorist" spotlight in this whole BLM thing.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Another heavily armed right winger LARPing as law enforcement:

The man with the SS tattoo, originally thought to be a cop, has been charged with impersonating a police officer. He joined in the police skirmish line during the protests and falsely identified as some form of federal law enforcement.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...ficer-2051755/
I miss the days when right wing loons used to try to arrest police instead of join them.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
US attorney announces the gunman who allegedly killed two law enforcement officers in California was associated with the right-wing Boogaloo movement. A patch bearing the group’s symbol was found in the van used by the shooter in Oakland and Santa Cruz killings

https://twitter.com/passantino/statu...42500630626304

Confirmation of what was already widely suspected, the man that killed 2 cops and shot others was a right winger aligned with the "Boogaloo" community.

These antifascist super soldiers really need to get their act together, right wingers are totally stealing the "domestic terrorist" spotlight in this whole BLM thing.

Has nobody claimed that it was a false-flag antifa operation yet?
Suspect in killing of 2 Bay Area officers tied to right-wing Boogaloo group, prosecutors allege (LATimes, June 16, 2020)
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Do Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates often go there to walk their own dogs?
No.

I saw Steve Ballmer once at the high-end food court in one of the group of three downtown malls.

Otherwise I've never seen any other billionaires I recognize.
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