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Old 16th June 2020, 02:45 PM   #321
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Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Roofing company workers forced onto ground, held at gunpoint by man who thought they were Antifa

Loveland, not feeling the love, apparently. Hail damage is very common here in late spring and early summer. It is normal for them to go door to door offering to do inspections. Normal for entire neighborhoods to all need new roof shingles all at once. Hail in Colorado can be a sight to behold.
Let me guess, a lot of alcohol was involved.

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his son, Stanley Gudmundsen, emailed 9NEWS and said his father is ill and currently undergoing treatment at a mental health facility.
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Our student is a young man of color, while the perpetrator is white.
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Old 16th June 2020, 03:04 PM   #322
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Another heavily armed right winger LARPing as law enforcement:

The man with the SS tattoo, originally thought to be a cop, has been charged with impersonating a police officer. He joined in the police skirmish line during the protests and falsely identified as some form of federal law enforcement.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...ficer-2051755/
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A deputy chief with Metro who assumed Sanns was part of law enforcement and believed he saw a federal badge approached him and said: “I don’t need you on the front line with an AR-15. Who are you with?” the complaint said. “He recalled the subject stating something similar to being ‘federal officer.’ ”

When the deputy chief pressed further, Sanns said he was with Homeland Security Investigations.

Assistant Sheriff Chris Jones then approached Sanns and asked the same question.

“I’m with the State Department,” he said, according to the complaint. “They deploy us out here.”

Jones told federal investigators that he noticed what he believed was a Department of Homeland Security emblem on Sanns’ gray T-shirt.

That night, a Las Vegas Review-Journal photographer posted images of Sanns on social media that showed an “SS” bolt logo and “0351” tattoos on his upper left arm.
So did the deputy chief or the assistant sheriff do anything?

Or did the reporter just not get that part of the story?

And this is mass-shooter Las Vegas. You'd think the field charge person would either arrest him there on the spot or at a minimum ask more questions. You don't have different agencies showing up that aren't under one central command.
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Old 17th June 2020, 06:55 AM   #323
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These leftist terrorists must be stopped;


A 17-Year-Old Who Organized A BLM Protest Had A Burning Cross Placed In His Yard, Cops Said

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...es-matter-teen
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Old 18th June 2020, 04:09 AM   #324
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Trump re-election campaign released an ad decrying the dangers of antifa mobs and used the red triangle symbol, the code patch used by Nazi concentration camps for political prisoners.

They have since changed the ads to remove this symbol.


https://twitter.com/wehearttrash/sta...18468726124544
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Old 18th June 2020, 07:17 AM   #325
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Another right wing terrorist. Antifa really needs to kick things into high gear if they want to be a contender for political terrorists of the year award.

El Paso Man Faces Federal Charge of Posting Threatening Communications over the Internet

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdtx/pr...-over-internet

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During the video, the defendant is seated visible only from the knees down with what appears to be an AR-15 style rifle resting on the defendant’s feet. Flores stated that he would be travelling on I-20 Eastbound through Dallas on Monday while daring individuals representing Black Lives Matter to “stop him.” Flores further stated that “my dream is at least take out at least 200 [N******].”
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Old 19th June 2020, 10:04 PM   #326
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'But antifas steal MAGA hats!!!'
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Old 20th June 2020, 01:18 AM   #327
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One thing I have learnt from this forum.

I read some of the US threads like this one and think thank **** I wasn't born there.
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Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000

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Old 20th June 2020, 01:51 AM   #328
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Many American members probably thank **** for the exact same thing!
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Old 20th June 2020, 02:00 AM   #329
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Many American members probably thank **** for the exact same thing!
Honestly.

Why do they care so much about calling each other acronyms or made up words to make sure everyone has a group you can either agree with or hate.
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I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000
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Old 20th June 2020, 02:01 AM   #330
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Your post was quite funny btw

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I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000
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Old 20th June 2020, 05:20 PM   #331
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Honestly.

Why do they care so much about calling each other acronyms or made up words to make sure everyone has a group you can either agree with or hate.
Yeah, ‘cos of course it doesn’t happen in NZ where everyone’s bro is his cuz . . .
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Another leftist coordinating with international antifa terrorists:

U.S. Army Soldier Charged with Terrorism Offenses for Planning Deadly Ambush on Service Members in His Unit
U.S. Army Private Ethan Melzer Sent Sensitive U.S. Military Information to Members of a Neo-Nazi Group in an Attempt to Facilitate a “Mass Casualty” Attack on Melzer’s Army Unit


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-ar...mbers-his-unit
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Old 22nd June 2020, 10:54 PM   #333
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Even though it sounds like the summary of a very bad B movie, you just can't make that stuff up:

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Melzer, a private, enlisted in the U.S. Army in December 2018, and joined the Order of the Nine Angles (O9A) in 2019, the Justice Department said. The Justice Department described members of the group as espousing "violent, neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, and Satanic beliefs," and claimed they've "expressed admiration for both Nazis, such as Adolf Hitler, and Islamic jihadists," including Osama bin Laden. Members of the group have participated in acts of violence, including murder.
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The Order of the Nine Angles is based in the United Kingdom, where anti-racism campaigners and lawmaker Yvette Clark have sought to have it outlawed as a terrorist organization, BBC News reported.
"The combination of Nazi-Satanism, extreme violence and sexual abuse makes it particularly troubling and action needs to be taken to prevent them grooming and radicalizing other people," Clark said in March.
British group Hope Not Hate says the group was founded in the 1960s.
Soldier charged with providing information to white supremacist occult group to "ambush" his own unit (CBS, June 22, 2020)

The UK in the 1960s?!!
I knew that The Crazy World of Arthur Brown would come back to haunt us some day.

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Antifa's gotta be in there somewhere. They just gotta be.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:01 PM   #334
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Another leftist coordinating with international antifa terrorists:

U.S. Army Soldier Charged with Terrorism Offenses for Planning Deadly Ambush on Service Members in His Unit
U.S. Army Private Ethan Melzer Sent Sensitive U.S. Military Information to Members of a Neo-Nazi Group in an Attempt to Facilitate a “Mass Casualty” Attack on Melzer’s Army Unit


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-ar...mbers-his-unit
A Nazi-Satanic Jihadist. I wonder how he felt about Jews.
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Old 23rd June 2020, 01:02 AM   #335
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No need to wonder. See the highlights in the quotation in my post above: "violent, neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, and Satanic beliefs."

The news media in Denmark are also writing about this: Amerikansk soldat gav oplysninger om egen enhed til nynazister (TV2.dk, June 23, 2020)
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More flopping of the "outside agitator" narrative concerning the unrest following the police murder of Rayshard Brooks.

The white woman seen setting fire to the Atlanta Wendy's has been held up as an example of white, outside agitators coming into the black community to start problems.

Turns out, the woman has been identified as Brook's longtime girlfriend. That's about as grassroots as it gets.
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Old 23rd June 2020, 06:28 AM   #337
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More flopping of the "outside agitator" narrative concerning the unrest following the police murder of Rayshard Brooks.

The white woman seen setting fire to the Atlanta Wendy's has been held up as an example of white, outside agitators coming into the black community to start problems.

Turns out, the woman has been identified as Brook's longtime girlfriend. That's about as grassroots as it gets.
When it was only known to have been a "white female" who burned down Wendy's the BLM immediately said it was "not us" and that the white woman should be apprehended and face maximum penalty.

I think it went sideways when they then found out that she was Brooks' girlfriend. But the world did find out that it was initially all about her skin color. It could suggest that BLM has problems with their racism. Any statues related to BLM should be pulled down because those folks are racist. Apparently.

Most especially, you could look back and see what Skeptic Ginger wrote about this horrible WHITE person. I think Ginger may have thought that this was a false flag thing done by a white woman in order to frame the local black community for a totally senseless arson. She can explain now.

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She didn't burn down Wendy's because there was anything wrong with Wendy's. She burned it down as a way of showing honor and respect for her late boyfriend. And to move the movement forwards.
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When it was only known to have been a "white female" who burned down Wendy's the BLM immediately said it was "not us" and that the white woman should be apprehended and face maximum penalty.

I think it went sideways when they then found out that she was Brooks' girlfriend. But the world did find out that it was initially all about her skin color. It could suggest that BLM has problems with their racism. Any statues related to BLM should be pulled down because those folks are racist. Apparently.

Most especially, you could look back and see what Skeptic Ginger wrote about this horrible WHITE person. I think Ginger may have thought that this was a false flag thing done by a white woman in order to frame the local black community for a totally senseless arson. She can explain now.
I've not experienced any people with BLM trying to exclude white people from the movement. Every event I've attended included explicit calls for solidarity and unity of purpose. I think it's mostly liberals or conservatives that are generally opposed to the more meaningful elements of BLM.

BLM isn't complaining about "outside agitators". It's authority figures, many of them centrist libs, that keep trotting out this language.
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These leftist terrorists must be stopped;


A 17-Year-Old Who Organized A BLM Protest Had A Burning Cross Placed In His Yard, Cops Said

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...es-matter-teen
Unless actual evidence of the perpetrator is found, I have to assume that this is another fake hate crime. That's what the odds favor.
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Unless actual evidence of the perpetrator is found, I have to assume that this is another fake hate crime. That's what the odds favor.
Fake-hate like right-wingers killing cops to blame Antifa/BLM?
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Fake-hate like right-wingers killing cops to blame Antifa/BLM?
The self-inflicted hate crimes generally follow a pattern: they are heavy on the symbolism (so you know it's a hate crime and not just an ordinary crime) if not outright cliched, but the actual damage is trivial. This fits the pattern. If you aren't suspicious, you're a rube.
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The self-inflicted hate crimes generally follow a pattern: they are heavy on the symbolism (so you know it's a hate crime and not just an ordinary crime) if not outright cliched, but the actual damage is trivial. This fits the pattern. If you aren't suspicious, you're a rube.
I have no problem to investigate this and see wherever it goes.
But the big crimes since the start of the protests have all come from the far-right or cops themselves.

But blaming the victim without evidence is not appropriate.
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I've not experienced any people with BLM trying to exclude white people from the movement. Every event I've attended included explicit calls for solidarity and unity of purpose. I think it's mostly liberals or conservatives that are generally opposed to the more meaningful elements of BLM.

BLM isn't complaining about "outside agitators". It's authority figures, many of them centrist libs, that keep trotting out this language.
Can we talk about this specific white female arsonist, please?
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Can we talk about this specific white female arsonist, please?
What's more to say? Early reporting claims she was the girlfriend of the deceased, so her involvement in anti-police rioting is easy to explain.
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The self-inflicted hate crimes generally follow a pattern: they are heavy on the symbolism (so you know it's a hate crime and not just an ordinary crime) if not outright cliched, but the actual damage is trivial. This fits the pattern. If you aren't suspicious, you're a rube an apologist.
FTFY
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What's more to say? Early reporting claims she was the girlfriend of the deceased, so her involvement in anti-police rioting is easy to explain.
No.
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Unless actual evidence of the perpetrator is found, I have to assume that this is another fake hate crime. That's what the odds favor.
Fascinating. Can you show your math?
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When it was only known to have been a "white female" who burned down Wendy's the BLM immediately said it was "not us" and that the white woman should be apprehended and face maximum penalty.

I think it went sideways when they then found out that she was Brooks' girlfriend.
But the world did find out that it was initially all about her skin color. It could suggest that BLM has problems with their racism. Any statues related to BLM should be pulled down because those folks are racist. Apparently.

Most especially, you could look back and see what Skeptic Ginger wrote about this horrible WHITE person. I think Ginger may have thought that this was a false flag thing done by a white woman in order to frame the local black community for a totally senseless arson. She can explain now.
Do you have any links to the highlighted? I know BLM claimed it wasn't one of their own- I mean the turnaround in attitude about the crime.
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I have no problem to investigate this and see wherever it goes.
But the big crimes since the start of the protests have all come from the far-right or cops themselves.
That's not true either. There have certainly been some big crimes committed by right wingers. But absolutely not all of them, that's a transparent lie. David Dorn, for example, wasn't killed by any right wingers. I'm not claiming his murderer had any real ideological motivation rather than simple criminality, but the perpetrator was no right winger.

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But blaming the victim without evidence is not appropriate.
Oh, but there is evidence. As I said, the pattern is well established, and this case fits the pattern. That's not proof, but it absolutely is evidence.
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Old 23rd June 2020, 12:09 PM   #351
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Fascinating. Can you show your math?
There was a whole thread about such incidents. Go look it up, if you're curious.
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BLM isn't complaining about "outside agitators". It's authority figures, many of them centrist libs, that keep trotting out this language.
It is the ones that maybe support BLM but worry more about property damage because they can identify more with owing stuff than oppression.
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Do you have any links to the highlighted? I know BLM claimed it wasn't one of their own- I mean the turnaround in attitude about the crime.
You can go to Page 20 and read forwards of the sequence of events with news quotes, citations and our members comments.
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Old 25th June 2020, 12:45 PM   #354
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Proud Boy fired by his own father.

https://www.wallysrestaurants.com/st...m-mike-nordean

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My son, Ethan, is involved with an extremist group called the “Proud Boys.” Hindsight, as they say, is 20/20. Until very recently, my wife and I were blind to the ideology that our son supports. We were told by our son that this group was a “patriotic” group that were “protectors” who stood up for freedom of speech and traditional values. We regretfully believed him.
Lol rekt.

Antifa takes another scalp.
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Proud Boy fired by his own father.

https://www.wallysrestaurants.com/st...m-mike-nordean



Lol rekt.

Antifa takes another scalp.
Gotta give the dad credit. I doubt that was easy to admit, much less act on, and doing so publically he showed what he is made of. Respect.
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Gotta give the dad credit. I doubt that was easy to admit, much less act on, and doing so publically he showed what he is made of. Respect.
Yeah, it's a heartbreaking letter. Must be hard to admit that your kid is a fash. Maybe this will be a come-to-jesus moment for this particular degenerate.
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Update:

Originally Posted by Right Wing Watch
Ohio National Guard Soldier Pulled From Mission in D.C. Appears on Neo-Fascist Podcast, Says He’s Being Discharged
The guardsman who espoused violent Nazi ideology appeared on an overtly fascist podcast and revealed he was being discharged from the Guard for "unsoldierly behavior"

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/...ng-discharged/
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In Germany, they are partially disbanding a whole unit of elite soldiers because it is infiltrated by right-wing extremists:

Rechtsextreme Vorfälle: KSK-Kompanie soll aufgelöst werden (t-online.de, June 30, 2020)
Germany far right: Elite KSK commando force 'to be partially disbanded' (BBC, June 30, 2020)
Germany to overhaul elite army force tied to right-wing extremism (DeutscheWelle, June 30, 2020)

Breaking News: Antifas steal another MAGA hat!
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Antifa strikes again - or that appears to be what Trump would have us believe:
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President Trump condemned the vandalism on Monday, saying in a tweet: "This shows that these anarchists have no bounds!"
Frederick Douglass statue vandalized in New York park on anniversary of famous Fourth of July speech (Fox News, July 6, 2020)
I notice that he doesn't talk about punishing the 'anarchists' this time.
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hmm....

peaceful statute vandals on the one side, actual killers on the other.

Which side should I vote for?

decisions, decisions ...
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