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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:18 AM   #281
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This confirms that violent and murderous street gangs have infiltrated CHOP. These people kill and injure huge numbers of black and brown men and boys. Of course they carry guns but not because of Proud Boys lurking in the shadows. Somebody else is going to kill them. He will be black, not white.

Track them down and get them out of CHOP. Remove them with extreme prejudice and use devices and chemicals if necessary. They are against BLM because look at what they do at 3am. People of the CHOP must get themselves together for a purge of the people who live to kill black people and do it as if it was a sport or computer game because it provides personal satisfaction. They walk amongst you in CHOP. Black lives don't mean nothing to these black guys.

Or at least pour milkshakes on their heads.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:35 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
I'm curious how people in the CHOP would know this, but I don't see why this would be implausible.
When something like this happens and there aren't a bunch of goon squad cops liable to beat up or wrongfully arrest witnesses then the flow of information tends to be better.

The biggest problem with CHOP or any progressive law enforcement reform is that the opponents frame it as promising no, or even less crime. Not that once you remove cops from the picture the quality of life improves. Having a few more crimes committed by civilians is a acceptable cost for getting rid of an occupying army.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:43 AM   #283
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If the story of the gang shooting is true, it makes it even less exceptional. There are gang shootouts in every major city across the country, and cops don't really do much to prevent them in the places where they aren't semi-excluded. Somewhere else in this forum someone posted about a shooting at a block party in N. Carolina.

I am much more concerned about politically motivated violence as the right wing propaganda machine has been painting this street protest as a target since day 1. I'm surprised there hasn't been more attacks like the Proud Boys robbery, or even active shootouts.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:56 AM   #284
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
I posted earlier that one eye witness said that, but the person did not see the shooting and was a bit far from the incident.

OTOH, there was another shooting near the CHOP area last night. The person who was wounded was treated and released. This adds to the evidence the shootings are not drive-bys.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 11:59 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Anyone who deduced that they had just seen another murderous gang hit would also then know that the shooter is essentially guaranteed to not be white. This is the same for any intended victim(s). They are not white either. You don't even have to look at the involved parties to know. Once you know it's gang then you know they ain't white.

A sage observer at CHOP might offer...

Yeah man what we just saw here that's what those Proud Boy supremacist do. You see it on the news. But this here was black or brown boys and man this stuff happens every day around here and other parts of Seattle. It's like a killing machine that don't never stop and don't never sleep. Those white supremacists don't nearly kill or wreck that many all the time. Man it ain't even a close. I can hear some of you saying it was Proud Boy. It wasn't. What you saw was the shooter, somebody who ain't white, doing a killing because they are too proud of their gang. They just exactly like a Proud Boy but they ain't white and they kill so often that it's like the white killers ain't even a pimple compare.
It wasn't supposed to be a gang hit. It was supposedly gang members or types got into an argument that progressed.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
I'm surprised there hasn't been more attacks like the Proud Boys robbery, or even active shootouts.
They just don't have the murderous capacity to kill black people like the black gangs do every single day. It's like they don't have it in them to act like the gangs do. The Proud Boys are too passive and lazy or whatever to accomplish what the black gangs are doing. Even easy stuff like going to morning church service, coming home for a nap and then heading out to kill a black guy that needs killing.

Proud Boys Can't Jump.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 12:13 PM   #287
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
They just don't have the murderous capacity to kill black people like the black gangs do every single day. It's like they don't have it in them to act like the gangs do. The Proud Boys are too passive and lazy or whatever to accomplish what the black gangs are doing. Even easy stuff like going to morning church service, coming home for a nap and then heading out to kill a black guy that needs killing.

Proud Boys Can't Jump.
Whatever point your trying to make is a bit lost considering one of the Proud Boys identified in the video, "Tiny" Toese, likely violated probation in order to travel interstate to commit an assault and robbery. He's a textbook violent re-offender.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
It wasn't supposed to be a gang hit. It was supposedly gang members or types got into an argument that progressed.
A "hit" is a killing or other violent assault. This was a gang hit.

When rival gang members meet by chance it is somewhat common for shooting to start or maybe knifing. It doesn't matter where or when it happens. They are armed at nearly all times. And when they aren't armed they are vulnerable. But not vulnerable to Proud Boys or any other white guy because that pretty much doesn't happen.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 12:23 PM   #289
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
A "hit" is a killing or other violent assault. This was a gang hit.

When rival gang members meet by chance it is somewhat common for shooting to start or maybe knifing. It doesn't matter where or when it happens. They are armed at nearly all times. And when they aren't armed they are vulnerable. But not vulnerable to Proud Boys or any other white guy because that pretty much doesn't happen.
A hit is premeditated. Someone getting shot as a result of an unplanned altercation is not a hit.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
A hit is premeditated. Someone getting shot as a result of an unplanned altercation is not a hit.
Arrives in an SUV, gets out and starts shooting. Gang hit.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Arrives in an SUV, gets out and starts shooting. Gang hit.
Not to be confused with Arrives in an SUV, gets out and starts shopping. My wife on payday.
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A hit is authorized by senior criminals.

In fact organized crime has what could be considered an equivalent to the cops in having to explain why they pulled the gun out, or fired it, or poked holes in people.
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"Tiny" Toese, the Proud Boy seen on video engaging in a gang assault and robbery on the border of the CHOP protest, is wanted for violating his probation that precluded him from attending protests for 2 years.

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/20...ing-probation/
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Seattle to end police-free protest zone after shootings

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Seattle's mayor has said the city plans to take back a district that is being occupied by armed protesters, after three people were shot at the weekend.

Mayor Jenny Durkan said the violence had become "increasingly difficult" for businesses and residents. She said the city would work with the demonstrators to end the so-called Capitol Hill Occupied Protest zone.

The city centre zone was taken over by protesters on 8 June after police withdrew following violent clashes.

Mayor Durkan, who has been under growing pressure to crack down on the protest zone, told a news conference on Monday the city police department would return to its precinct "peacefully and in the near future".

"The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the night-time atmosphere and violence," she said, "has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents.

"The impacts have increased and the safety has decreased."

Her announcement followed a shooting on Sunday night at the edge of the zone in the Capitol Hill neighbourhood.

The 17-year-old victim, who was shot in the arm, refused to speak to the police. In another shooting early on Saturday, a 19-year-old man died and a 33-year-old man was left critically wounded.

At Monday's news conference, Police Chief Carmen Best said her officers had been confronted by a "hostile crowd" after the Saturday attack that hampered emergency workers as they tried to reach the victims.

She said that since the East Precinct had been abandoned, rapes, assaults, burglaries and vandalism had been reported in the area. Mayor Durkan was asked during an interview on CNN earlier this month when the authorities might retake the zone.

She replied: "I don't know, we could have the summer of love!"...
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Old 23rd June 2020, 06:42 PM   #295
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Reality is catching up with CHOPS. It was inevitible.
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
A hit is authorized by senior criminals.

In fact organized crime has what could be considered an equivalent to the cops in having to explain why they pulled the gun out, or fired it, or poked holes in people.
Neither of us know if the shooter was a "senior criminal" or what.

If it started as a rival gang confrontation inside CHOP and then an SUV arrives with the shooter I start to think about two things...

A gangster phone call comes from inside CHOP at the confrontation and informs fellow gangster(s) somewhere outside of CHOP that there is a situation with a rival gang. He describes the situation and the players and the logistics and layout - this is all for a plan of action. The caller either outright suggests or demands a gang hit or the senior on the phone takes the hint and orders the hit for whoever would work and it might be himself. That senior has seniors too, FWIW. A gang hit plan is formed and somebody arrives in the SUV to do it.

A gangster that is part of a confrontation inside CHOP could sneak away to a parked SUV to set up a situation like what happened here. Quick shots from outside the perimeter at the target(s) you have already seen and then an easy getaway.

Could be that there was a specific gang rival encountered in CHOP that had a bounty on his head, and is to be killed whenever the chance presents itself. That would be pre-authorised in perpetuity. Revenge hits are like that and those are always happening. This killing will trigger retaliatory revenge. It never ends. And they never shoot to injure. Murder is the case.
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The 17-year-old victim, who was shot in the arm, refused to speak to the police.
He wouldn't speak because he is a gangster. Not even an adult and he has already got gangster killer skills and knows not to talk to cops.

We hear the phrase, "snitches get stitches", but that isn't right. Snitches get tombstones. This kid might even know the name of the guy who shot him and where he lives. But he will never say that to the cops. His own gang for sure, but never the cops. Retaliation will come the way it's supposed to. On the street, with the judge and the jury just being one single guy with a gun. Verdict is guilty and the execution happens. Cops cannot be relied upon to kill the killers that the killers need to be killed. Sending the guy to prison that shot you in the arm is stupid when you can just find him and kill him.

And the police aren't going to catch him for the retaliatory hit. That's because nobody talks to the cops. There might be rival people who know who he is but they won't talk. Gangsters don't use the police to mete out justice. The same thing happens with other organized crime with lethal rival enemies. The Mafia might be most famous for it but it's common with other organized crime. For the Mafia it's known as Omerta. It's similar to the cops Blue Code of Silence or whatever it's called.

Family members keep their mouths shut as well because there can be tombstones for them too. Imagine being able to tell the police who killed your beloved young son and choosing not to do that.

Cities can't solve and prosecute their black gang murders because nobody will talk to the police. The people who can solve these crimes won't speak.

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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
He wouldn't speak because he is a gangster. Not even an adult and he has already got gangster killer skills and knows not to talk to cops.

We hear the phrase, "snitches get stitches", but that isn't right. Snitches get tombstones. This kid might even know the name of the guy who shot him and where he lives. But he will never say that to the cops. His own gang for sure, but never the cops. Retaliation will come the way it's supposed to. On the street, with the judge and the jury just being one single guy with a gun. Verdict is guilty and the execution happens. Cops cannot be relied upon to kill the killers that the killers need to be killed. Sending the guy to prison that shot you in the arm is stupid when you can just find him and kill him.

And the police aren't going to catch him for the retaliatory hit. That's because nobody talks to the cops. There might be rival people who know who he is but they won't talk. Gangsters don't use the police to mete out justice. The same thing happens with other organized crime with lethal rival enemies. The Mafia might be most famous for it but it's common with other organized crime. For the Mafia it's known as Omerta. It's similar to the cops Blue Code of Silence or whatever it's called.

Family members keep their mouths shut as well because there can be tombstones for them too. Imagine being able to tell the police who killed your beloved young son and choosing not to do that.

Cities can't solve and prosecute their black gang murders because nobody will talk to the police. The people who can solve these crimes won't speak.
No offense but do you actually have evidence for all that and who the people are, or is it just grasping at straws trying to still defend the mess this supposed "zone" has become?
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No offense but do you actually have evidence for all that and who the people are, or is it just grasping at straws trying to still defend the mess this supposed "zone" has become?
I don't understand this post.
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Wow, there were three shootings in CHOP since Saturday?

I checked CNN (my go-to site for what the "mainstream news" is saying) and they're not even mentioning it. Sure, it will show up in their site search but they're hiding it from the front page. They've got a headline Musicians play to a packed house...of plants and The Segway is Officially over but I guess they ran out of their enthusiasm for reporting on CHOP/CHAZ.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
A "hit" is a killing or other violent assault. This was a gang hit.

When rival gang members meet by chance it is somewhat common for shooting to start or maybe knifing. It doesn't matter where or when it happens. They are armed at nearly all times. And when they aren't armed they are vulnerable. But not vulnerable to Proud Boys or any other white guy because that pretty much doesn't happen.
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Arrives in an SUV, gets out and starts shooting. Gang hit.
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Neither of us know if the shooter was a "senior criminal" or what.

If it started as a rival gang confrontation inside CHOP and then an SUV arrives with the shooter I start to think about two things...

A gangster phone call comes from inside CHOP at the confrontation and informs fellow gangster(s) somewhere outside of CHOP that there is a situation with a rival gang. He describes the situation and the players and the logistics and layout - this is all for a plan of action. The caller either outright suggests or demands a gang hit or the senior on the phone takes the hint and orders the hit for whoever would work and it might be himself. That senior has seniors too, FWIW. A gang hit plan is formed and somebody arrives in the SUV to do it.

A gangster that is part of a confrontation inside CHOP could sneak away to a parked SUV to set up a situation like what happened here. Quick shots from outside the perimeter at the target(s) you have already seen and then an easy getaway.

Could be that there was a specific gang rival encountered in CHOP that had a bounty on his head, and is to be killed whenever the chance presents itself. That would be pre-authorised in perpetuity. Revenge hits are like that and those are always happening. This killing will trigger retaliatory revenge. It never ends. And they never shoot to injure. Murder is the case.
That's a lot of speculation/fiction there.

How do you know all the parts you do claim to know and on what basis are you hypothesizing the rest?



Meanwhile, back to what we do know: The victim in the hospital is speaking, (TV News interview).

He was shot just outside of the CHOP zone. It was a group of white guys, unprovoked and they shot him multiple times. It was ~30 minutes after the first shooting that killed the 19 yr old some distance away.

There has now been a 4th shooting near CHOP. I don't have details about the fourth incident.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
I don't understand this post.
What evidence do you have it is all gang related and not the "zone" going rogue with nutty idiots?

Didn't think it was that complicated
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William Parcher is simply making stuff up. shrug
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William Parcher is simply making stuff up. shrug
No, no! He's a stone-cold gangsta, can't you tell?
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Doesn't that just prove though that the protesters are like everybody else; they need some police protection? Not (necessarily) yet from internal problems, but guess what? Your local cops are there to protect you from cretins from the outside as well.
It's the balance of killings and beatings by the cops to killings and beatings from outside that is the problem.
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Proud Boy, "Tiny" Toese, is in jail as of June 24th for Assault. Unclear at this time which specific assault this is in reference to, though one may speculate it is related to his recorded assault at the border of the CHOP recently. Toese was already on probation for another assault at a protest.

https://www.mcso.us/PAID/Home/Booking/1505286
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Man shot in CHOP claims that the attempted murderers were "KKK or Proud Boys". He describes a group of men attacking him and using racial slurs. This is the first interview I've seen with the surviving victim since the shooting.

His shooting took place about 1/2 hour after the shooting that killed a teenager and is likely unrelated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_1...ature=emb_logo
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Reality is catching up with CHOPS. It was inevitible.
It was never the point of the CHOPS to be a permanent autonomous zone - only to let people experience a life different from what is supposedly the only acceptable way of life in Capitalist America.
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A collection of Seattle businesses, property owners and residents is suing the city over its tolerance of an “occupied” protest zone, saying officials have been complicit in depriving them of their rights to their property.

The plaintiffs, including a tattoo parlor and auto repair shop, emphasized in the lawsuit filed Wednesday that they were not trying to undermine the anti-police-brutality or Black Lives Matter messaging of the “Capitol Hill Occupied Protest.”

The suit says protesters, who have taken up residence at the CHOP for several weeks, threatened business owners with retaliation if those businesses painted over their graffiti.
I haven't seen the lawsuit so I don't know if the people suing are actually within CHAZ.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
It was never the point of the CHOPS to be a permanent autonomous zone - only to let people experience a life different from what is supposedly the only acceptable way of life in Capitalist America.
No one should be allowed to live this way.
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Old 25th June 2020, 07:48 AM   #311
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
It was never the point of the CHOPS to be a permanent autonomous zone - only to let people experience a life different from what is supposedly the only acceptable way of life in Capitalist America.
It think it's important to point out that protesters didn't create the "CHAZ", the police did. They unilaterally pulled out of the area, largely because they were incapable of restraining themselves from using wanton violence against protesters and they were experiencing tremendously bad PR.

The CHAZ never made the cops leave the area, and they can't really do much to prevent them from coming back.
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Old 25th June 2020, 09:34 AM   #312
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Seattle businesses and residents sue the city over CHOP zone: Lawsuit says locals have been threatened by protesters after entire neighbourhood was ‘abandoned’ by authorities

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A collection of Seattle businesses, property owners and residents sued the city Wednesday over its tolerance of an 'occupied' protest zone, saying officials have been complicit in depriving them of their rights to their property.

The plaintiffs - including a tattoo parlor, auto repair shop and property management firm - emphasized in the lawsuit that they were not trying to undermine the anti-police-brutality or Black Lives Matter messaging of the 'Capitol Hill Occupied Protest.'

'Rather, this lawsuit is about the constitutional and other legal rights of plaintiffs - businesses, employees, and residents in and around CHOP - which have been overrun by the city of Seattle's unprecedented decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public at large,' the lawsuit said.

The Seattle City Attorney's Office said it had not yet seen the lawsuit but would review it...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...CHOP-zone.html
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Old 25th June 2020, 09:35 AM   #313
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https://www.king5.com/article/news/l...ReWCKKvuDnMExA

I haven't seen the lawsuit so I don't know if the people suing are actually within CHAZ.
This court filing is interesting. In recent days after the shooting which infamously killed one protester and wounded another, the narrative has been that police tried to get to the victims to provide aid and were prevented from doing so by the crowd of angry protesters, so shame-shame on the protesters. But according to this lawsuit, the police didn't even try to access the crime scene until 20 minutes after the shooting.
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Reporting on this is still unclear, but it seems that armed CHOP demonstrators shot dead two men in a truck that were attempting a drive-by or other shooting.

Some reports claim the men drove by and shot once before returning and shooting while driving through the encampment area in a field. Armed CHOP people shot and critically wounded both men in the truck, who have been transported to the hospital.

Mainstream media has little info beyond reporting that two men were taken to the ER with gunshot wounds.

Here's a twitter thread showing the truck riddled with gunshots.

https://twitter.com/MaliceBD/status/1277554271966203904
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Old 29th June 2020, 12:06 PM   #315
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Oh that's interesting. A drive by shooting with the windows rolled up. A "stolen" SUV with the keys in the ignition and no mention that the two who were shot were black.

The person who owns that twitter account is fully retarded, isn't she ?
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On this morning's news: There's video that shows the SUV driving around Cal Anderson (on the lawn).

It was believed they were trying to get past the barriers.

It's reported the CHOP security shot at the SUV.

One man died and a 14 yr old is still in critical condition.

There are reports people in the SUV shot at people.

The SUV has been towed and the police chief is livid people had already been in and out of the SUV. No gun was found.

They also towed the civilian car that took one of the victims to Harborview. Medics took the other man.

Chief Best said if CHOP was about BLM and now all these black men have been shot with two dead, it is past time to shut it down.

EDITED TO ADD: Killed was a 16 yr old, not "and adult" as was previously reported.
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Old 29th June 2020, 12:43 PM   #317
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
On this morning's news: There's video that shows the SUV driving around Cal Anderson (on the lawn).

It was believed they were trying to get past the barriers.

It's reported the CHOP security shot at the SUV.

One man died and a 14 yr old is still in critical condition.

There are reports people in the SUV shot at people.

The SUV has been towed and the police chief is livid people had already been in and out of the SUV. No gun was found.

They also towed the civilian car that took one of the victims to Harborview. Medics took the other man.

Chief Best said if CHOP was about BLM and now all these black men have been shot with two dead, it is past time to shut it down.

EDITED TO ADD: Killed was a 16 yr old, not "and adult" as was previously reported.
With respect for the gravity of the situation.

The highlighted sentence is loaded with potential pitfalls.

What kind of training and certification is required for this role? They get to use deadly force when their discretion calls for it? What publically accountable body can review their behavior?

Another angle: oh, good guys with guns were around to help, you say?

I hope the random people a lot of news crews talk to at these things can articulate a response.
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With respect for the gravity of the situation.

The highlighted sentence is loaded with potential pitfalls.

What kind of training and certification is required for this role? They get to use deadly force when their discretion calls for it? What publically accountable body can review their behavior?

Another angle: oh, good guys with guns were around to help, you say?

I hope the random people a lot of news crews talk to at these things can articulate a response.
Fox yesterday: CHOP’s ‘security’ growing more ‘contentious’ with nearby residents: report
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Seattle residents said Sunday that despite rumors that the city was going to reclaim the “occupied” area known as CHOP, little has changed on the ground and the “security” at the protest zone has actually gotten more “contentious” with residents who live nearby.

“They won’t let people in the neighborhood sometimes at night,” Matthew Ploszaj, who lives there, told KOMO News. He told the station that he supports the Black Lives Matter movement, but said it is a “terrible precedent” that “any political message can come in and occupy a neighborhood.”
That stuff's been reported since the beginning. Not a lot of actual news reporter followup.

Capitol Hill Blog: Private ‘high threat protection’ team part of response to overnight CHOP shooting
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As one teen was killed and another was wounded in Monday’s early morning shooting following a night of driveby gun violence, no police came to the scene and the surviving 14-year-old had to be brought out of the protest zone to be transported by Seattle Fire, a heavily armed team swung into action to help and provide medical assistance.

Joseph Spiro tells CHS that Iconic Global “high threat private protection” teams have deployed in the area protecting client businesses and residential properties with patrols and rapid response to threats and dangerous situations near the protest zone.
They weren't involved in the shooting according to the company despite being described as "heavily armed". Their website is down at the moment.
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Spiro says the one-year-old Auburn, Washington company is paid by clients in the area but also is providing some support to businesses and buildings in the area pro bono. He says Iconic Global has also helped some inside the CHOP camp with medical help and support. “We’ve been working with some of the leaders of CHOP, too, to explain why we are there — not to get in the way of what they’re doing.”
Here's one of the grain of salt witness accounts that does sound credible:
Seattle journalist Omari Salisbury shares an inside look at the CHOP
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The shooting Monday appeared to have started in the park, Salisbury told KIRO Radio’s Dave Ross. There was an initial exchange of gunfire, one group looked like they left the park, and then a white Jeep Cherokee drove through the park, he said. A member of so-called CHOP security let off what they told Salisbury were “warning shots.”

Then, a few minutes later, the same Jeep crashed into one of the barricades on 12th Avenue and was met with deadly force. Salisbury was unable to confirm who fired first.

“But I do know that it, man, it was a lot of shots fired,” he said.
There are videos with the audio of the shots.

I agree with his opinion here:
Quote:
Salisbury has been a presence in the CHOP since the initial protests before the police left the East Precinct. He lives and works in the area. Ross asked if he thinks the CHOP can continue?

“No. I mean, not like this, it’s not sustainable,” Salisbury said.
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It turns out that the "man" who was assassinated by CHOP security was a 16 year old kid.

CHOP security video has recorded one participant noting that one of the kids is still alive and asking him if he wants to be pistol whipped ( 1:57 in the video ) before saying BOOM and what sounds like an execution shot ringing out.

What are the chances that the shooter(s) were white ?

Also, a rather entertaining interview with some white douchbag in a plague mask. When CHOP sends their people to talk to the media, they're not sending their best are they ?

Black Lives Matter might have to start protesting Black Lives Matter

All the gory details
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It turns out that the "man" who was assassinated by CHOP security was a 16 year old kid.

CHOP security video has recorded one participant noting that one of the kids is still alive and asking him if he wants to be pistol whipped ( 1:57 in the video ) before saying BOOM and what sounds like an execution shot ringing out.

What are the chances that the shooter(s) were white ?

Also, a rather entertaining interview with some white douchbag in a plague mask. When CHOP sends their people to talk to the media, they're not sending their best are they ?

Black Lives Matter might have to start protesting Black Lives Matter

All the gory details
This is what George Floyd died for.
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