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Old 28th June 2020, 11:14 AM   #1
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People using a gun to defend themsleves

I'm not sure why this man was attacked but the attack appeared on video seemingly out of the clear blue sky.

A man was walking away from some civil disorder when at least six people attacked him. He was being pummelled with a fist, a skateboard and one man had a knife in his hands. The beating victim pulled out an automatic handgun and began firing. He hit one bad enough to wound or even kill him and the other five ran off yelling get his tag number.

I don't know what caused this but the gun sure got him out of trouble quick.
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Old 28th June 2020, 04:54 PM   #2
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Second amendment came in handy

On June 01, 2020, gun owners in Cour D'Alene protected their community from black clad masked Antifa visitors from Spokane who planned to riot in Cour D'Alene.

They did not fire their guns. They showed up with their guns in downtown Cour D'Alene. The would be rioters left town. No damage or injuries.

You'd think the media would be showing the nation the pics from Cour D'Alene of the armed Black Guy and the armed White Guy shaking hands, protecting their town from harm.
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:15 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
They did not fire their guns. They showed up with their guns in downtown Cour D'Alene. The would be rioters left town. No damage or injuries.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "Gun totin' pooh dips from Butt ****, Idaho Save America!" Great spin on reality, Bubba!
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:20 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Second amendment came in handy

On June 01, 2020, gun owners in Cour D'Alene protected their community from black clad masked Antifa visitors from Spokane who planned to riot in Cour D'Alene.

They did not fire their guns. They showed up with their guns in downtown Cour D'Alene. The would be rioters left town. No damage or injuries.

You'd think the media would be showing the nation the pics from Cour D'Alene of the armed Black Guy and the armed White Guy shaking hands, protecting their town from harm.
The 'media' didnt show it, because the event you describe did not happen. I mean, it's possible that a couple guys with black t-shirts or something stopped by and said "whoa, what's up with these hillbillies", but no Antifa anything happened.

Unless you'd like to provide one of them thar sources or something?
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:24 PM   #5
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Oh, and OP? You forgot to link a story. No town or State or or country even , so too vague to talk about.
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Old 28th June 2020, 07:14 PM   #6
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Well, let's all agree that wearing a mask is super suspicious!

...anywhen except 2020.
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Old 28th June 2020, 10:50 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by qayak View Post
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "Gun totin' pooh dips from Butt ****, Idaho Save America!" Great spin on reality, Bubba!
I take it you haven't been to Coeur d' Alene. It's a pretty wealthy and cultured place, describing it as "Butt****, Idaho is about as inaccurate as one could possibly get.
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Old 28th June 2020, 10:51 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Oh, and OP? You forgot to link a story. No town or State or or country even , so too vague to talk about.
Pretty obvious which story he was talking about (although, indeed in a very vague and pointless manner) but yeah, there's already another thread and it's old news by now.
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What's an automatic handgun?
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
What's an automatic handgun?
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
What's an automatic handgun?
To be fair, assuming he meant semi-automatic, some revolvers are not.
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Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly View Post
Pretty obvious which story he was talking about (although, indeed in a very vague and pointless manner) but yeah, there's already another thread and it's old news by now.
I don't think it is obvious, and I don't think there is a thread on it. I see nothing distinctive enough about the OP story to identify it.
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
What's an automatic handgun?
Before being rebranded by the NRA, "automatic" referred to any firearm that would automatically eject spent brass and load the next round. The term "machine gun" was used for the subset of automatics that would automatically fire that next round as long as the trigger remained depressed. Many people still use the older terms, as they lead to less accidental ambiguity.
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Originally Posted by GodMark2 View Post
Before being rebranded by the NRA, "automatic" referred to any firearm that would automatically eject spent brass and load the next round. The term "machine gun" was used for the subset of automatics that would automatically fire that next round as long as the trigger remained depressed. Many people still use the older terms, as they lead to less accidental ambiguity.
Right, hence the full auto and semi auto distinctions. Automatic essentially means autoloading in practice. People should really only be corrected for 'machine gun', which in common parlance is full auto.
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The 'media' didnt show it, because the event you describe did not happen. I mean, it's possible that a couple guys with black t-shirts or something stopped by and said "whoa, what's up with these hillbillies", but no Antifa anything happened.

Unless you'd like to provide one of them thar sources or something?

The Cour D'Alene news itself says they were responding to rumors they had heard that Antifa might be on its way. They weren't defending the town against anything other than the fantasies in their heads.

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“We have people all over town,” Rescue said. “The rumors are, they’re going to be in numerous places and they had a scout in here earlier counting our numbers and reporting to somebody.”
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Sounds like a charitable and untrue telling of the Albuquerque shooter, Steven Baca, who is currently facing charges for felony aggravated battery and 2 counts of misdemeanor battery for attacking 3 separate women at a protest. He is also charged with unlawful carrying of a weapon. He was initially charged with a felony for the shooting, but that charge has been dropped, for the time being, and state investigators are being brought in to make that decision.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1468683/j...-old-town.html

Baca shot and seriously wounded a man while fleeing his violent felony and misdemeanors.

Sure, guns are often used by violent criminals to avoid the consequences of their crimes. They are often effective tools for criminals. Baca still ended up in custody, so he was mostly unsuccessful in this example.

There was no knife btw. That's right wing propaganda. The object seen in one man's hand was a pair of eyeglasses. Baca did get hit with a skateboard. Unfortunately, the blow was not sufficient to disable this dangerous criminal before he shot someone.

Quite the opposite of what you claim, having and using a gun seems to have compounded Baca's legal problems.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Sounds like a charitable and untrue telling of the Albuquerque shooter, Steven Baca, who is currently facing charges for felony aggravated battery and 2 counts of misdemeanor battery for attacking 3 separate women at a protest. He is also charged with unlawful carrying of a weapon. He was initially charged with a felony for the shooting, but that charge has been dropped, for the time being, and state investigators are being brought in to make that decision.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1468683/j...-old-town.html

Baca shot and seriously wounded a man while fleeing his violent felony and misdemeanors.

Sure, guns are often used by violent criminals to avoid the consequences of their crimes. They are often effective tools for criminals. Baca still ended up in custody, so he was mostly unsuccessful in this example

There was no knife btw. That's right wing propaganda. The object seen in one man's hand was a pair of eyeglasses. Baca did get hit with a skateboard. Unfortunately, the blow was not sufficient to disable this dangerous criminal before he shot someone.

Quite the opposite of what you claim, having and using a gun seems to have compounded Baca's legal problems.
Right, the details are so wrong that I assume it couldn't be Baca. About the only thing right was the skateboard. But it is far too vague to pin down to any other specific event. OP will be along presently to straighten out his OP, I'm sure.
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The Cour D'Alene news itself says they were responding to rumors they had heard that Antifa might be on its way. They weren't defending the town against anything other than the fantasies in their heads.

Fact is, footage shows some Antifa looking types jumping out of cars and attempting to vandalize property, and being repelled by the armed militia looking types.
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The Cour D'Alene news itself says they were responding to rumors they had heard that Antifa might be on its way. They weren't defending the town against anything other than the fantasies in their heads.
He already knows that. He knows "Antifa" never showed up, and he knows there's no "video", and he knows the whole business was provoked by online trolls spreading baseless rumors appealing to ammosexual fantasies. He's just posting propaganda.
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To be fair, assuming he meant semi-automatic, some revolvers are not.
An automatic handgun often in 9mm or .45 fires semi automatically but they are still automatics.
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
The Cour D'Alene news itself says they were responding to rumors they had heard that Antifa might be on its way. They weren't defending the town against anything other than the fantasies in their heads.

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“We have people all over town,” Rescue said. “The rumors are, they’re going to be in numerous places and they had a scout in here earlier counting our numbers and reporting to somebody.

Yes, there was a threat, but Antifa is not that stupid. Antifa changed its mind after scouting, except for the few that tried to vandalize and got repelled.

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Yes, there was a threat, but Antifa is not that stupid. Antifa changed its mind after scouting, except for the few that tried to vandalize and got repelled.

Why does this sound familiar ...?
Oh, right. It sounds like those people who were claiming that the government was going to launch a false flag terrorist attack on the Super Bowl several years ago, but because these brave people got the word out, the government cancelled the plot.
"Nothing happened, and we can't prove anything, but we saved all of you."
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"Antifa had a scout counting our numbers and reporting to somebody"

Was there a guy with an Antifa Scout badge on his lapel or something? And was he putting numbered stickers on people, or just shouting out "shut up guys, you're making me lose count!"

The fantasies compound...
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Before being rebranded by the NRA, "automatic" referred to any firearm that would automatically eject spent brass and load the next round. The term "machine gun" was used for the subset of automatics that would automatically fire that next round as long as the trigger remained depressed. Many people still use the older terms, as they lead to less accidental ambiguity.
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An automatic handgun often in 9mm or .45 fires semi automatically but they are still automatics.
Highlights are mine.


As a former cop I used the proper legal definitions of the various types of firearms under Canadian law to prosecute individuals. Semi-automatic and automatic are two distinctly different firearms by definition in Canadian law. The laws regarding the two distinct modes of fire date back to 1936 so I doubt very much the NRA had anything to do with it.

I have shot semi-automatic pistols recreationally, professionally, and competitively. I have never heard of semi-automatic pistols being referred to as "automatics" by any Canadian with any knowledge or experience with firearms. Regional parlance is obviously the deciding factor in everyday usage as this article states:

The language surrounding "automatic", "semi-automatic", "self-loading", etc., often causes confusion due to differences in technical usage between different countries and differences in popular usage. For example, the term "automatic pistol" technically refers to a fully automatic machine pistol, which is capable of continuously firing multiple rounds with a single pull of the trigger, although in popular American usage it is also used as a synonym for any self-loading pistol, the vast majority of which are semi-automatic. In colloquial usage, because machine pistols are very rare on the market, an "automatic pistol", a "semi-automatic pistol" or a "self-loading pistol" usually all imply a semi-automatic handgun that is fed by a removable magazine, which discharges one round for each trigger pull.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_pistol
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I've got these idiots beat. I have a sword collection and Antifa hasn't even floated rumors of sending scouts into my town. And I never even had to pull one down off the rack, let alone step out my front door. Truly melee weapons are the superior deterrent to anarchists/rioters/bears. Take that, NRA. Sell your AR-15 and get a rapier.
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Why does this sound familiar ...?
Oh, right. It sounds like those people who were claiming that the government was going to launch a false flag terrorist attack on the Super Bowl several years ago, but because these brave people got the word out, the government cancelled the plot.
"Nothing happened, and we can't prove anything, but we saved all of you."
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Oh yes, the suburban Antifa defense force.

A bunch of dimwitted Facebook boomers learn that antifa berserkers will be descending on their town to rape and pillage. They get all their dumb and heavily armed friends together to stand guard. They scare the bejeesus out of their liberal neighbors that showed up to march with cardboard signs, if there's anyone there at all. Having scared off the Antifa vandals that surely existed and were imminently about to attack, they pat themselves on the back and call it a day.

I confess. I'm a member of the plainclothes Antifa Pathfinders. They send types like me in advance to ensure the GameStop is undefended, then I radio back to home base to send the Super Soldiers.
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then I radio back to home base to send the Super Soldiers.
Remind me: We take the serum the moment the radio call comes in, or is it later? I always get so confused.
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Remind me: We take the serum the moment the radio call comes in, or is it later? I always get so confused.
We just hear the words in Russian then go all Bucky on their asses
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Highlights are mine.


As a former cop I used the proper legal definitions of the various types of firearms under Canadian law to prosecute individuals. Semi-automatic and automatic are two distinctly different firearms by definition in Canadian law. The laws regarding the two distinct modes of fire date back to 1936 so I doubt very much the NRA had anything to do with it.
I find no 1936 (Canadian) gun laws referring to automatic weapons of any type. The handgun registration from 1934 does not appear to mention types, only caliber. It was amended in 1936 to prohibit sawed-off shotguns. "Automatic" wasn't added until 1951, and "Fully Automatic" was added in 1977.

The NRA (USA) was founded in the 1870's, well before any of these laws. I can't say how much influence the USA NRA would have on Canada, but given their physical proximity and generally close political and trade relationships, I assume it would be non-zero. Their more overt political actions tended to increase occur in the 1960's and 1970's, which would be consistent with a 1977 addition to law.
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I'm not sure why this man was attacked but the attack appeared on video seemingly out of the clear blue sky.

A man was walking away from some civil disorder when at least six people attacked him. He was being pummelled with a fist, a skateboard and one man had a knife in his hands. The beating victim pulled out an automatic handgun and began firing. He hit one bad enough to wound or even kill him and the other five ran off yelling get his tag number.

I don't know what caused this but the gun sure got him out of trouble quick.
What man? What video? What attack?

Why haven't these questions already been posed? Was I left off the memo? Oh I get it, it's a game of community rorshalk.
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Oh yes, the suburban Antifa defense force.

A bunch of dimwitted Facebook boomers learn that antifa berserkers will be descending on their town to rape and pillage. They get all their dumb and heavily armed friends together to stand guard. They scare the bejeesus out of their liberal neighbors that showed up to march with cardboard signs, if there's anyone there at all. Having scared off the Antifa vandals that surely existed and were imminently about to attack, they pat themselves on the back and call it a day.

I confess. I'm a member of the plainclothes Antifa Pathfinders. They send types like me in advance to ensure the GameStop is undefended, then I radio back to home base to send the Super Soldiers.


This literally happened in the town where my parents live. Some people decided to have a march downtown during the week all the protests were happening. Then - social media rumors that Antifa was coming began to abound! Oh noes! The boomers all panicked and boarded up the Walmart and the Petco. Even my parents thought it was dumb.

Of course, nothing happened. The march, which did occur as planned, wasn't even located anywhere near the Walmart plaza.

Naturally, to hear my family's Trumpy neighbors tell it, Antifa got wind of all the badass preparations, and that's why they quaked in their combat boots and failed to show up.
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