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Old 14th August 2017, 04:28 PM   #2121
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
He has to demonstrate to his base that he was dragged kicking and screaming into calling white nationalists.
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Old 14th August 2017, 04:40 PM   #2122
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
Trump promised multiple times during his campaign that he would work to lower prescription drug prices.


Just another of his major campaign promises he hasn't kept.
But he's on the case now, just you watch. He'll fold it into the amazing healthcare bill he'll be passing next year. Tax cuts out, price cuts in, how can it fail?
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Old 14th August 2017, 04:46 PM   #2123
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
He has to demonstrate to his base that he was dragged kicking and screaming into calling white nationalists.
I'll wager Trump willl harbour resentment towards someone, or more than one, for cajoling him into this demonstration of weakness.
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Old 14th August 2017, 04:54 PM   #2124
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And Franklin Graham blames the Chrlottesville city council for the riots..and Satan, of course:

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Shame on the politicians who are trying to push blame on President Trump for what happened in #Charlottesville, VA. That’s absurd. What about the politicians such as the city council who voted to remove a memorial that had been in place since 1924, regardless of the possible repercussions? How about the city politicians who issued the permit for the lawful demonstration to defend the statue? And why didn’t the mayor or the governor see that a powder keg was about to explode and stop it before it got started? Instead they want to blame President Donald J. Trump for everything. Really, this boils down to evil in people’s hearts. Satan is behind it all.
Graham might say he worships Jesus, but he seems to rreally worship Donald Trump....

What a phony. He is like Donnie in another way;He would be nowhere without Daddy's money and fame...
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Old 14th August 2017, 05:22 PM   #2125
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And Franklin Graham blames the Chrlottesville city council for the riots..and Satan, of course:



Graham might say he worships Jesus, but he seems to rreally worship Donald Trump....

What a phony. He is like Donnie in another way;He would be nowhere without Daddy's money and fame...
I feel, that in order to play the victim card, one must be able to emotionally invest people in their plight.

If I can get you to feel what I'm feeling, then you might feel victimized too. (At least that's how I do it when I decide playing the victim card is the best possible route for me.)

I don't know how Mr. Graham can get people to be emotionally invested in his plight.
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Old 14th August 2017, 06:16 PM   #2126
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And Franklin Graham blames the Chrlottesville city council for the riots..and Satan, of course:


Graham might say he worships Jesus, but he seems to rreally worship Donald Trump....

What a phony. He is like Donnie in another way;He would be nowhere without Daddy's money and fame...
Shameful.
When Franklin's father could already in segregated 1953 say "we [whites] have been proud and thought we were better than any other race, any other people. Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to stumble into hell because of our pride."
Billy Graham knew to stand up to white supremacists, knowing they are of Satan.
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Old 14th August 2017, 08:16 PM   #2127
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http://thehill.com/homenews/media/34...-news-yourself

No Mr. President, you are fake news!
Trump is clearly in a most annoyed mood over this. Ha!
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Old 14th August 2017, 08:18 PM   #2128
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Originally Posted by C_Felix View Post
Woah...what is this effery?!

(I was tempted to make this its own thread)

The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based [web serivce provider] Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecur...-trump-website
Taking a play out of J Edgar's Playbook no doubt. Except they are making no effort to pretend they aren't spying on protesters.
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Old 14th August 2017, 08:43 PM   #2129
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Wow. Even now Trump can sometimes genuinely shock me. After hugely obvious shilly shallying about condemning the ideology of a white racist criminal he now says that a convicted white racist criminal doesn't deserve to serve his sentence because his racist crimes were "patriotic". What sort of conclusion is the world supposed to draw from this?
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Old 14th August 2017, 10:32 PM   #2130
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Old 14th August 2017, 11:12 PM   #2131
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And Franklin Graham blames the Chrlottesville city council for the riots..and Satan, of course:
From your link:
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How about the city politicians who issued the permit for the lawful demonstration to defend the statue?
Yeah, how dare city bureaucrats permit a lawful demonstration. But you can be damn sure if they had rejected the application, Graham would have been all over them for discrimination. ******* hypocrite.
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Old 14th August 2017, 11:46 PM   #2132
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An interesting article but the problem is that for a large minority (maybe even a majority) of Americans, and for sure almost all of the GOP, Donald Trump is exactly the kind of President they want to represent their view of what it is to be American.

The fact that the same "real" (rural, Conservative, Christian and, of course, white) American model has been in play at least since Sarah Palin burst into the public arena (and probably far longer) indicates to me that this is part of the core GOP message and not some kind of Trump-inspired aberration.
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Old 14th August 2017, 11:48 PM   #2133
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Originally Posted by SezMe View Post
From your link:

Yeah, how dare city bureaucrats permit a lawful demonstration. But you can be damn sure if they had rejected the application, Graham would have been all over them for discrimination. ******* hypocrite.
...I suspect that for many GOP supporters, the police were at fault for not being more aggressive at breaking up the counter-demonstrations to allow the good ol' boys (and gals ?) to have their "peaceful" demonstration.
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Old 14th August 2017, 11:49 PM   #2134
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
Sure. Men are a minority in hairdressing. I still wouldn't use that to argue that men are a minority in the general sense.

Sure, it was a minor point, but when have we ever let that stop us from discussing stuff? Isn't that the whole point of the forum? Or does that only apply when it's convenient?
Evidence for "men are a minority in hairdressing"?
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Old 14th August 2017, 11:52 PM   #2135
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Evidence for "men are a minority in hairdressing"?
What definition of hairdressing are we using ? Do we include simple barbers who offer a "number two all over" service, or to be classed as a hairdresser do they also have to offer styling and other services such as colouring and straightening ?

edited to add.....

In the US at least, the " Hairdressers, hairstylists, & cosmetologists" industry workforce seems to be overwhelmingly female.

https://datausa.io/profile/soc/395012/#age_gender

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Old 15th August 2017, 12:15 AM   #2136
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Originally Posted by Carnivore View Post
Wow. Even now Trump can sometimes genuinely shock me. After hugely obvious shilly shallying about condemning the ideology of a white racist criminal he now says that a convicted white racist criminal doesn't deserve to serve his sentence because his racist crimes were "patriotic". What sort of conclusion is the world supposed to draw from this?
You need to check a new dictionary, there is a new meaning for "patriot" it now says "someone who says nice things about Trump".
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Old 15th August 2017, 12:20 AM   #2137
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
What definition of hairdressing are we using ? Do we include simple barbers who offer a "number two all over" service, or to be classed as a hairdresser do they also have to offer styling and other services such as colouring and straightening ?

edited to add.....

In the US at least, the " Hairdressers, hairstylists, & cosmetologists" industry workforce seems to be overwhelmingly female.

https://datausa.io/profile/soc/395012/#age_gender
It would be strange to not include all people who dress hair when talking about hairdressing.
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Old 15th August 2017, 12:27 AM   #2138
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It would be strange to not include all people who dress hair when talking about hairdressing.
Then as per the numbers I linked, women outnumber men in the industry by more than 10:1.
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Evidence for "men are a minority in hairdressing"?
You know, this tired habit you have of pretending to know nothing about what we're discussing doesn't get more convincing with use.
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Old 15th August 2017, 03:42 AM   #2140
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The CEO of Intel on Monday announced his resignation from President Trump's American Manufacturing Council, becoming the third executive to do so since the violence in Charlottesville, Va. over the weekend.

“I resigned to call attention to the serious harm our divided political climate is causing to critical issues, including the serious need to address the decline of American manufacturing,” CEO Brian Krzanich wrote in a blog post.

“Politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America’s manufacturing base.”

Krzanich called for an end to “scoring political points” and said “the current environment must change.”

"I have already made clear my abhorrence at the recent hate-spawned violence in Charlottesville, and earlier today I called on all leaders to condemn the white supremacists and their ilk who marched and committed violence.”
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/34...harlottesville

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Old 15th August 2017, 03:53 AM   #2141
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The fool is alienating everyone but his base, but we already knew that he would.
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Is there any particular reason why President Trump is so in love with Senator Luther Strange at the moment (apart from the Senator's imminent appearance on Fox & Friends) ? There have been several name-checks in the last couple of days. Might he be joining the administration to replace Kelly, McMaster or Sessions ?

nevermind

He's running to replace Sessions in the senate.....

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Is there any particular reason why President Trump is so in love with Senator Luther Strange at the moment (apart from the Senator's imminent appearance on Fox & Friends) ? There have been several name-checks in the last couple of days. Might he be joining the administration to replace Kelly, McMaster or Sessions ?
Maybe because the Senator has a name that sounds like a super-villain.
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Birtherism is back baby! What a racist scumbag.
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The CEO of Intel on Monday announced his resignation from President Trump's American Manufacturing Council, becoming the third executive to do so since the violence in Charlottesville, Va. over the weekend.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/34...harlottesville

Hah!
I checked his Tweets this morning.
No melt down or attacks (yet)
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I checked his Tweets this morning.
No melt down or attacks (yet)
Would the CEOs of Under Armor and Intel happen to be white ?
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Donald Trump shared a tweet from an alt-right conspiracy theorist and provocateur in the hours after he bowed to overwhelming pressure and directly condemned the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and white supremacists over Saturday’s violence at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

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Hours later, however, he retweeted a tweet by Jack Posobiec that linked to a story about shootings in Chicago over the weekend.

Critics accused the president of attempting to signal appreciation for his alt-right supporters by retweeting an article about crime in a predominantly black inner city.

Posobiec, who supported Trump’s election campaign, is known for promoting discredited theories about the killing of the Democratic National Committee employee Seth Rich.

He also propagated the erroneous “pizzagate” allegations against the Hillary Clinton campaign that prompted a man to walk into a restaurant with an assault rifle and fire off three rounds, among other falsehoods.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-supremacists

If Trump wanted his condemnation of racism, hatred and so forth seem at least a little bit sincere he might not want to retweet something from an alt-right agitator shortly after.

Moreover he retweeted an cartoon image showing a train hitting a person with the CNN logo superimposed over his head days after a far-right terrorist intentionally rammed protesters with a car. Although it's quite possible that Trump didn't consider the potential connotation between the image and this terrorist attack it at least shows that he doesn't hesitate to personally push violent political rhetoric days after after someone died due to political violence.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-supremacists

If Trump wanted his condemnation of racism, hatred and so forth seem at least a little bit sincere he might not want to retweet something from an alt-right agitator shortly after.

Moreover he retweeted an cartoon image showing a train hitting a person with the CNN logo superimposed over his head days after a far-right terrorist intentionally rammed protesters with a car. Although it's quite possible that Trump didn't consider the potential connotation between the image and this terrorist attack it at least shows that he doesn't hesitate to personally push violent political rhetoric days after after someone died due to political violence.
The things to remember are:
  • The President is absolutely not a racist. For sure he may have lost a lawsuit back in the day when he refused to rent to black people, he may have said a lot of racist things in the past, during the campaign and since he became President, he may have aligned and allied himself with a ****-load of racists but The President is not a racist - no siree Bob
  • Twitter is not an official form of communication for The President - except when it is - and so whatever appears on Twitter can be ignored - except when it can't
  • The President is to be taken seriously but not literally (whatever the **** that means) and so not too much should be read into those tweets.
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The things to remember are:
  • The President is absolutely not a racist. For sure he may have lost a lawsuit back in the day when he refused to rent to black people, he may have said a lot of racist things in the past, during the campaign and since he became President, he may have aligned and allied himself with a ****-load of racists but The President is not a racist - no siree Bob
  • Twitter is not an official form of communication for The President - except when it is - and so whatever appears on Twitter can be ignored - except when it can't
  • The President is to be taken seriously but not literally (whatever the **** that means) and so not too much should be read into those tweets.
The guy that tweeted this:
Feels good to be home after seven months, but the White House is very special, there is no place like it... and the U.S. is really my home!
this morning isn't a racist you say? Intriguing.
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The guy that tweeted this:
Feels good to be home after seven months, but the White House is very special, there is no place like it... and the U.S. is really my home!
this morning isn't a racist you say? Intriguing.
I'm not sure whether you spotted that The Don's post was fairly dripping with sarcasm.
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I checked his Tweets this morning.
No melt down or attacks (yet)
Did you see the story about his retweets (and deletes) today?

I am beyond appalled about the train one.
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Did you see the story about his retweets (and deletes) today?

I am beyond appalled about the train one.
That's Modern PresidentialTM for you .....
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That's Modern PresidentialTM for you .....
Is anyone else getting confused between Futurama's Nixon's Head President and our real-life one?

Or is it just me?
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Not least, Mr. Bannon embodies the defiant populism at the core of the president’s agenda. Despite being marginalized, Mr. Bannon consulted with the president repeatedly over the weekend as Mr. Trump struggled to respond to the neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Va. In general, Mr. Bannon has cautioned the president not to criticize far-right activists too severely for fear of antagonizing a small but energetic part of his base.

But what once endeared him to the president has now become a major liability. After the president waited two days to blame white supremacists for the violence in Charlottesville, there is new pressure from Mr. Trump’s critics to dismiss Mr. Bannon.

“I don’t think that White House has a chance of functioning properly as long as there’s a resident lunatic fringe,” said Mark Salter, a longtime adviser to Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. At best, he said, Mr. Bannon seems willing to “tolerate something that’s intolerable” in Mr. Trump’s base.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/u...ite-house.html

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Did you see the story about his retweets (and deletes) today?

I am beyond appalled about the train one.
I'd say he owes Kathy Griffin an apology.
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Old 15th August 2017, 09:03 AM   #2156
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President Donald Trump issued a sharp warning Tuesday to American CEOs who sit on his manufacturing council: You’re not irreplaceable.

“For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place,” Trump boasted in a tweet Tuesday morning. “Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!”

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At least one executive got the president’s message Tuesday morning — and he announced his departure, too. “I'm resigning from the Manufacturing Jobs Initiative because it's the right thing for me to do,” tweeted Scott Paul, president of the Alliance for American Manufacturing.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...eo-quit-241654

SCOTT PAUL IS WEAK ON JOBS AND REALLY ONLY WANTS TO SEND ALL AMERICAS MANUFACTURING PLANTS TO MEXICO AND CHINA!!! SAD!
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As usual Trump doesn't know how to deal with people and can't get the results he wants.
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Old 15th August 2017, 09:09 AM   #2158
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As usual Trump doesn't know how to deal with people and can't get the results he wants.
All this winning - it hurts.....
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As usual Trump doesn't know how to deal with people and can't get the results he wants.
What a surprise, huh -- he's running the executive branch like he ran his businesses, while (literally) acting like he's still in the Celebrity Apprentice boardroom.
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Old 15th August 2017, 09:17 AM   #2160
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Trump and the Republicans, in a nutshell...

Stumbled across this article in my news browsing. It was about 2 former Trump workers who had an affair. The woman got pregnant and is now a single mom, the father (who is married to someone else) is basically taking no interest in the child. I thought it summed up Trump and the Republicans perfectly. It has everything...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...le-mom/536892/

- The woman supported Trump because she was against foreign interventions. Like many, she swallowed Trump's lies, ignoring the fact that he supported the Iraq invasion.

- They had an affair, even though he was married (so much for "family values")

- The father suggested an abortion, illustrating how the republicans are hypocrites (given the fact that they fought so hard to get an anti-abortionist on the supreme court.)

- The father claims (though his lawyers) that he wants to support the child, but at this point it just seems to be empty promises

- The woman regularly gets labeled a "homewrecker", ignoring the fact that the father was more to blame (reflective of the sexism inherent in the republican party)

- And now, the woman is essentially "kicked to the curb", now that she is no longer of use to Trump or the republicans. Few of her former campaign workers have made any attempt to contact or support her.

Like I said... Trump and the republicans in a nutshell... lies, sexism, hypocrisy, and empty rhetoric.
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