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Old 24th May 2018, 02:05 PM   #2721
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Yu. V. Skorov
25 May 2018: More of his lies about the Skorov et. al paper.
Rosetta unravels formation of sunrise jets
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In particular, two effects proved to be decisive. Some regions on the surface are located at lower altitudes or in the shade. The first rays of sunlight reach them later. In contrast, the frost evaporates particularly efficiently from the early and strongly illuminated regions. In addition, pits and other concave structures virtually concentrate gas and dust emissions - much like an optical lens
He quotes the last sentence. Skorov et. al is not about any jets, especially from "pits and other concave structures' !
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Old 24th May 2018, 02:21 PM   #2722
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It's NOT what the data is saying, is it tusenfem?
25 May 2018: A "It's NOT what the data is saying" lying question.
What the data is saying:
Rosetta unravels formation of sunrise jets is about Rosetta data of jets forming during sunrise as the Sun illuminates the frosty surface exactly as predicted by frost sublimating.

This is not new. We have seen this before when small areas of frost were suddenly exposed to sunlight, e.g. though landslides. However this is frost spread over a large area being illuminated by sunrise. The first thought was that the sublimated gases would form a cloud, not the observed jets. The explanation as supported by modeling the actual surface is that it is the shape of the surface that creates the jets.

X. Shi et al. Coma morphology of comet 67P controlled by insolation over irregular nucleus, Nature Astronomy (2018). DOI: 10.1038/s41550-018-0481-5
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Old 24th May 2018, 02:31 PM   #2723
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Exclamation 978 items of ignorance, idiocy, delusions and lies, 6 July 2009 - 25 May 2018

More than 948 items of ignorance, idiocy (citing irrelevant mainstream papers), delusion and lies from 6 July 2009 to 10 May 2018
  1. 10 May 2018: Insanity of thanks for debunking his comet = rock delusion yet again !
  2. 10 May 2018: Back to lying to derail from his many comet delusions.
  3. 11 May 2018: Irrelevancy and the usual lies to derail from the electric comet insanity.
  4. 11 May 2018: We have the repeated lie that Skorov, et. al. is on comet jets or supports the electric comet lunacy in any way.
  5. 11 May 2018: Emphasizes that he has been lying in many of his posts for years.
  6. 11 May 2018: The Philea lander found an "ICY SURFACE" which debunks his electric comet lunacy.
  7. 11 May 2018: "Philae finding ice on the SURFACE" lie to detail from the electric comet lunacy.
  8. 14 May 2018: Repeats his "Dr. Jessica Agarwal's July 3, 2016 jet" lie.
  9. 14 May 2018: Usual lies about comets: ices have been detected, Whipple DEDUCED that there are ices (e.g. density less than water, formation in early solar system), the mainstream have been making up their own minds based on the evidence
  10. 14 May 2018: Lies by citing an ices and dust comet paper when his many comet delusions include no ices (or "minimal").
  11. 15 May 2018: Ignorant delusions about the electric comet and comet tails, e.g. his Birkeland currents lie.
  12. 15 May 2018: A lie that the "plasma" tail affects the mainstream comet model.
  13. 15 May 2018: Repeated idiocy of a ices and dust comet paper that does not support his many comet delusions.
  14. 15 May 2018: An irrelevant "dirtysnowball enduring all that heat and radiation pressure" lie.
  15. 16 May 2018: Usual ices and dust comet paper idiocy to derail from his many comet delusions.
  16. 16 May 2018: Usual idiotic questions and lies to derail from his many comet delusions.
  17. 16 May 2018: A link to the deluded Thunderbolts cult and its lies about comets.
  18. 18 May 2018: Thunderbolts cult page links to Wal Thornhill's deluded and lying "Comet Borrelly rocks core scientific beliefs" article.
  19. 17 May 2018: Links to the deluded Thunderbolts cult and the ignorant Franklin Anariba.
  20. 21 May 2018: The usual stupid "debate over the dirty snowball model" delusion.
  21. 21 May 2018: Persistent lie about "Whipple's model" by data from ices and dust comets.
  22. 21 May 2018: Insane delusion that RPC-MAG data will show that there is no sublimation on comets.
  23. 21 May 2018: Insane lie that data was forced to fit the model, i.e. faked.
  24. 21 May 2018: Delusion that "electric currents" are his electric comet delusions.
  25. 21 May 2018: Mindless parroting of the liar Wal Thornhill's insanity that tales are long and so support ignorant comet delusions.
  26. 25 May 2018: Usual lies about a ices and dust comet paper to derail from his many comet delusions.
  27. 25 May 2018: Continues to lie about the Skorov et. al paper.
  28. 25 May 2018: A delusion that he can invalidate published science when it takes deep stupidity to believe in his many comet delusions and the lies, etc. of the Thunderbolts cult.
  29. 25 May 2018: More of his lies about the Skorov et. al paper.
  30. 25 May 2018: A "It's NOT what the data is saying" lying question.
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Old 24th May 2018, 09:59 PM   #2724
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Originally Posted by tusenfem View Post
Just get it in your mind, Skorov's model cannot explain how the dust gets from the surface through gas drag.
We see that dust is coming from the surface, so apparently if Skorov's model cannot explain that, then there is something wrong, and when other people CAN model the escape of the dust from the surface, then they are apparently doing something correctly, knee slapping so even.

The picture is rather clear.
For the paper
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"Outbursts can often be traced back to a small area on the surface where suddenly frozen water is exposed, for example due to a landslide," explains Dr. Holger Sierks from the MPS, OSIRIS Principal Investigator. "In the case of cometary activity at sunrise, this is different. The frost is distributed fairly evenly over the entire surface." But then why do the gas and dust emissions form jets? Why do they not create a completely homogeneous cloud?
Since when did we have fairly evenly distributed frost? We have no surface ice.

Does the frost have dust entrained, tusenfem?
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Is the dust charged?

Rosetta measurements of lower hybrid frequency range electric field oscillations in the plasma environment of comet 67P 10.1002/2016GL072419
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Old 24th May 2018, 11:44 PM   #2726
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
For the paper
I assume you mean "from the paper", and that is NOT a paper, that is a press release, the real paper is in Nature Astronomy.

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Since when did we have fairly evenly distributed frost? We have no surface ice.
Guess that goes back to the water cycle on 67P.
The bolded part ("But then why do the gas and dust emissions form jets? Why do they not create a completely homogeneous cloud?") were question put in as a discussion ansatz for the rest of the piece, and actually in the first sentence of the next paragraph directly following these two questions the answer is given:

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The new study shows for the first time that mainly the unusual shape and jagged topography of the comet are responsible for this phenomenon.
Typical Sol88 type quote mining trying to put the readers of this thread into the mindset that H. Sierks only has these two questions, whereas there is a whole paper explaining why.

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Does the frost have dust entrained, tusenfem?
Maybe it does, maybe it does not, I have had no time to read the paper (although I have it) as I am preparing my presentation for the Rosetta SWT taking place next week. So, why not read the paper yourself.
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Old 24th May 2018, 11:46 PM   #2727
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Is the dust charged?

Rosetta measurements of lower hybrid frequency range electric field oscillations in the plasma environment of comet 67P 10.1002/2016GL072419
Probably at least part of the dust is charged, but why would you link to Tomas' paper which has absolutely nothing to do with dust?
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