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10th June 2019, 04:28 AM | #2601 |
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"2012 and 2013, Welcome to Hereford road signs were defaced to read "Poland""
Don't remember any of the Hereford signs being defaced. A number of the road signs to certain villages were (including, iirc, Marden), though, up the A49. Confused our kids a bit on the way to school. |
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OECD healthcare spending Public/Compulsory Expenditure on healthcare https://data.oecd.org/chart/60Tt Every year since 1990 the US Public healthcare spending has been greater than the UK as a proportion of GDP. More US Tax goes to healthcare than the UK |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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10th June 2019, 07:02 AM | #2608 |
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An interesting point was raised on Twitter, showing that only 20% of Conservative party members earn above £50,000 (with some 24% declining to answer). Even if all 24% of those declining to answer are above, it's still not a majority. Of course, it won't hurt him with those 44%, but still..
Elsewhere, it's being pointed out that such a move would be disastrous for the Tory party in Scotland. Why? Because the Scots have a devolved tax setup (with a 41p charge starting at £43,000 or so, instead of of the 40p charge at £50,000) so most Scottish middle-class taxpayers won't actually see a tax cut - but they'll still have to pay the increased NI payment, since it's locked to the English NI payment level. |
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I doubt whether it would be much of a vote winner in a leadership election, and suspect it would be a vote loser in a GE. My reading of things is that the general public are pretty sick of the great & the good getting kid-glove treatment over their taxes.
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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10th June 2019, 02:53 PM | #2611 |
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11th June 2019, 02:01 AM | #2612 |
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I think it would be brilliant if Sajid Javid got the PMs job. Brexit was largely driven by an anti-immigrant campaign. So, give the job of ensuring Brexit to a second generation immigrant.
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11th June 2019, 03:13 AM | #2613 |
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From the former Foreign Editor of The Times Martin Fletcher
Repellent, chaotic and a serial liar, Boris Johnson would be a catastrophic prime minister https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...strophic-prime |
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11th June 2019, 03:33 AM | #2615 |
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I gather the 1922 Committee didn't change any rules so the party faithful will eventually get to choose between two finalists (instead of the up to 8 that was speculated on). That doesn't guarantee they'll be able to choose a rabid No-Dealer but whoever looks most likely to do it will win.
The only thing between us and No Deal after that would be a No Confidence vote in parliament. I don't quite see that working. |
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11th June 2019, 02:54 PM | #2617 |
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News update: Labour plan to put forward a motion tomorrow blocking a no-deal Brexit and effectively taking the matter out of the hands of the government.
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Considering Andrea Leadsom, Boris Johnson and Dominic Raab have all said they would leave 31 October even if there was no deal will have them spitting nails. I expect the HoC will be very lively tomorrow. |
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War of Spanish succession was a war between houses of Burbon (Capet) and Habsburg about who should control Spain. Yes, it also abolished what remained of the kingdom of Aragon, because they sided with the losing side (Habsburgs). It was not, in any shape or form, a war for Aragonese independence or the start of the unified Spain.
Spain de facto unified back in 1469, with the marriage of Isabella of Castillie and Ferdinand of Aragon. The country remained a union of kingdoms, with Castillie (itself a union of the kingdoms of Castillie and Leon) getting the upper hand most of the time, until Castillian institutions sided with the winning side after the death of Charels II of Spain. In the ensuing war France (& friends) prevailed over Austria (& friends) and Aragonese institutions got the shaft. It wasn't some sort of a war of unification or anything. Independent institutions were collateral damage. McHrozni |
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11th June 2019, 11:00 PM | #2621 |
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They don't have to vote for it. If Labour, SNP, LibDem ChUK, Cymru and Greens gather all their strength they have 301 votes. All they need to do is to get 38 abstinentions from Tories, DUP and independents and the motion passes.
The calculation above counts all independents as Tory Brexiteers, near as I can tell they're more likely to support the motion than oppose it. If all threw their weight behind the motion you just need 6 abstinentions. Realistically you need more because you won't have all of your MPs present and voting for the motion, but the same goes for Tories. I reckon twenty or so abstinentions with none voting in favor should be enough, if you could get forty that's plenty and should be enough no matter what Theresa May, BJ or anyone else does or says. McHrozni |
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12th June 2019, 03:01 AM | #2625 |
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Yes.
No deal doesn't actually provide any leverage at all (except with elements within the UK). As with everything else Brexit related, it's a complete scam. |
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That doesn't make sense. The war resulted in the destruction of the crown of Aragon's political institutions and subsequent imposition of Castilian ones. It is called a war of succession, but it resulted in unification and that was not a peaceful operation. The unification dates from the abolition of the Corts. As in Britain the two Crowns had a single monarch before that. But the unification came when the legislatures were united. Scotland and England weren't united in 1603, but in 1707.
See wiki Crown of AragonWP The Crown of Aragon and its institutions were abolished in 1716 only after the War of the Spanish Succession (1701–1714) by the Nueva Planta decrees, issued by Philip V of Spain. The old regime was swept away, the administration was subsumed into the Castilian administration, the lands of the Crown were united formally with those of Castile to legally form a single state, the kingdom of Spain, as it moved towards a centralized government under the new Bourbon dynasty. |
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I'm not sure the unpleasantness of the War of the Spanish Succession provides a good model for Leave/Remain divided Britain.
Consider instead disagreements which actually occurred here and were handled with typical British reserve and good manners: the Reformation, for example, or the falling out between the Royalists and Parliamentarians. Both, so far as I remember, were dealt with politely and with the minimum of unpleasantness. The Civil war was estimated to have killed a mere 4% of the entire population, and ended, I have no doubt, with a firm handshake and an unspoken agreement never to speak of the matter again. A lesson for us all at this difficult time. |
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Besides, that nice Mr Trump said he'd see us right...
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If it's any comfort, the food shortages that very well may follow Brexit may result in a reduction of the incidence of Type-2 (a.k.a bad) diabetes.
Those with Type-1 (a.k.a. good) diabetes can be cured just by touching Nigel Farage's tweed suit - such is the power of Brexit. |
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It's the run up to Christmas as well...
At least we're growing sprouts this year, though I really don't fancy just sprouts for Christmas dinner. |
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Labour MP refuses to support a Labour motion to prevent no deal
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