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Brexit: Now What? 7th heaven...
Remember those ferry contracts?
They were all dated to start March 29th. And there's no scope to change the date. Jesus wept.
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16th March 2019, 03:26 AM | #2 |
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There is an interesting comment in the book Imperial Economic Unity by Lord Melchett in 1930, which applies to Brexit and tariff negotiations with the EU now:
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16th March 2019, 03:27 AM | #3 |
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As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
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16th March 2019, 03:55 AM | #4 |
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From: https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/03/1...-for-march-to/
"Around 100 people assembled in Sunderland, the first city to vote in favour of exiting the European Union on the night of the 2016 referendum, in order to start the event." Two points - 1 - Will of the people, my arse. 2. Why do I have to get this info from AOL? |
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16th March 2019, 04:11 AM | #5 |
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100, Sunderland football team in the third tier of English football have had 46,000 watching them this year. Clearly this has captured the local imaginations. Mind I suspect the locals working at Nissan have woken up to realise project fear has come true as many of them are now looking forward to redundancy following the firm's move of production since the vote.
Still, on the bright side, it is pissing it down in the North East today. Horrible day to be out walking. |
16th March 2019, 04:19 AM | #6 |
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Just read a news report on Farage's March.
It is due to arrive in London on the day that we probably will not be leaving. They are skipping out bits of the route, They are being accompanied by two vans sponsored by 'Led by donkeys' an anti brexit group. Farage' won't be walking much of it. |
16th March 2019, 11:37 AM | #7 |
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16th March 2019, 12:04 PM | #8 |
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Film from the Here is the start of the march with 'Led By Donkeys' mobile hoardings in the background displaying quotes by Farage.
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...82125574402049 |
16th March 2019, 12:06 PM | #9 |
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Someone posted more film of the marchers. By lunch time there were only about 30 of them left, trudging through the rain.
Someone asked "Where are they now?" the reply was "About 1953" |
16th March 2019, 12:57 PM | #10 |
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They have been given 50 pounds each for food and lodging for the whole journey. That is, the WHOLE journey. ...LOL. Won't even buy them a round for the team at the pub first night.
That means the diehards will have to pay for themselves. Which means Nigel expects them to beat themselves to a pulp on this marathon in the pouring rain and east coast wind, and pay for it all themselves. Not that he will join them, of course, the skiving bastard. He's on the bus or the train instead. Common man indeed. Meanwhile, and it is so hard to watch, UK parliament is trying desperately not to get eaten by the huge angry bear which has backed them into the corner and they are all trying to shove someone else in front of each other as protection. |
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16th March 2019, 01:48 PM | #11 |
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Would I be considered a bad person for hoping for sleet and snow?
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As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
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16th March 2019, 03:33 PM | #13 |
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...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015 |
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16th March 2019, 05:13 PM | #17 |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47595598
You'll note that the BBC is very careful not to mentin any actual numbers. Sky seemed to do the same earlier, with lots of tight, ground level shots that couldn't possibly betray the size of the crowd. Sorry, 'crowd'. I don't know why I'm shocked, to be fair. |
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17th March 2019, 01:27 AM | #19 |
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Kate Hoey MP Tweeted
Kate Hoey Verified account @KateHoeyMP Proud to have taken part in the first day of #marchtoleave MP’s should not underestimate the anger millions of people feel about a potential betrayal #politicswillchange |
17th March 2019, 01:29 AM | #20 |
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78.6% of Kate Hoey's South London constituency voted for remain.
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17th March 2019, 04:04 AM | #21 |
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And May is banging on about 'compromise', which appears to mean voting for her plan at the 3rd time of asking, because that's democratic while a 2nd referendum isn't, and yet compromise seems to mean nothing more than handing out a few extra bribes to get some MPs to change their votes and ignore the disastrous consequences of Brexit for the country as a whole.
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17th March 2019, 04:04 AM | #22 |
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All those claims a second referendum is undemocratic.
1 - if leave lost by 48% to 52%, they would be campaigning for a second referendum 2 - the SNP would love to have another independence referendum 3 - there were devolution referendums in Scotland & Wales in 1979 and then 1997 On a similar lines, May is now wanting a third vote on her deal. The hypocrisy about the number of votes is unbelievable. |
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17th March 2019, 05:02 AM | #23 |
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a second referendum would be exactly as democratic as the first one.
Likely, it would be more so, since maybe, some obvious flaws in the first one could be avoided. |
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17th March 2019, 05:21 AM | #24 |
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Apparently the Gammonball Run is already down to about 75 folk. Farage has pissed off.
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As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
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17th March 2019, 08:40 AM | #27 |
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A tweet commenting on the wet, bedraggled few who were marching
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17th March 2019, 10:48 AM | #28 |
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[quote=Captain_Swoop;12635784]A tweet commenting on the wet, bedraggled few who were marching
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At the time the consort of the present monarch was born, the Empire was at its greatest extent. It has undergone complete disintegration in the course of a single lifetime. As if Trajan had been alive up to the days of Augustulus. No wonder these marchers are bewildered and muttering to their fathers. They have a lot to mutter about, and even more to be bewildered about. |
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17th March 2019, 04:59 PM | #30 |
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18th March 2019, 12:49 AM | #34 |
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Wait, why do they have to pay to take part in the walk? It's on public roads. They don't appear to be getting participatory "gilets jaunes" or anything.
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18th March 2019, 03:23 AM | #35 |
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I have a feeling the march will teach us the meanings of the words "backfire" and "fiasco" anew.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D12lwbPX0AELWrF.jpg I count just over 60 people, some of whom may be reporters or random passers-by. New video, I count 25 people: https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...0%2Fframe.html McHrozni |
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18th March 2019, 04:28 AM | #36 |
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Adam Hills of The Last Leg is publicly 'reverse sponsoring' Farage. For every mile that Farage doesn't walk he's going to give money to an asylum seeker's charity.
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18th March 2019, 08:10 AM | #37 |
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Hmm given how much of the UK strategy has been to play chicken does anyone think the EU will do so about granting an extension? Put it off to put pressure on the UK do make some kind of real decision?
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18th March 2019, 08:41 AM | #39 |
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Clear ruling from Bercow that the government cannot bring back a deal that is "the same, or substantially the same" as the one that was rejected last week.
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18th March 2019, 08:45 AM | #40 |
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With these two it really seems that the only options are no deal or no brexit. A substantially different deal is not going to be on the offer after a short extension, so what is the point in having one? The only benefit I see is postponing the crash until after the EU elections so that it will not be hugely disruptive to them.
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