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Old 28th March 2020, 10:13 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
But that's my point: it's just speculation at this point.

And the dynamic now isn't equivalent to Christmas. The issue isn't simply enforced contact. At Christmas, people have this expectation that things are supposed to be happy and nice. And when things don't play out the way they want or expect (because they rarely do), that doesn't only create stress, it can create anger towards the people that aren't living up to your expectations.

But what are the expectations here? This is unprecedented. People don't know what to expect. So it's not a given that all abusers are just going to be more abusive, let alone how much more abusive. Human behavior is more complex than that. The overall effect of this is really unknown.
Oh. I see you met my father while he was alive.

There's a reason why I stay home, alone, for Christmas every year.
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Old 30th March 2020, 12:34 AM   #42
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There's been a lot about this in Norwegian media. Both on kids who are stuck at home with dysfunctional or abusive families, and how abuse is not uncovered as the kids don't get to be with teachers and others who would have noticed bruises and other signs. Abusers must be loving this situation.
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Old 30th March 2020, 09:56 AM   #43
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Grønland indfører alkoholforbud midt i coronakrise (DR.dk, March 29, 2020)

To make sure that children are safe in their homes, you can no longer buy beverages with a percentage of alcohol higher than 2.25.
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Old 31st March 2020, 04:48 AM   #44
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Coronavirus: I'm in lockdown with my abuser (BBC, March 31, 2020)
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Old 31st March 2020, 05:01 AM   #45
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Not the exact same topic but related, I've seen (second hand from people so grain of salt) an uptick in "LOL I can beat your ass because Child Protective Services ain't doing house calls during the quarantine" type memes/jokes shared on Facebook and Twitter.

But CPS in general seems to occupy the role of "Boogeyman" to the "It's my God given right to beat my child and being told I can't is the greatest injustice ever" types.
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Old 31st March 2020, 07:33 AM   #46
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Old 31st March 2020, 11:35 AM   #47
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This will be one where you can compare the stats before and after - how many additional family murders happened during the lockdowns.

Covid's certainly shining a spotlight on the human species at the moment.
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Old 6th April 2020, 09:13 AM   #48
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In a terrible series of events a man shot himself and his girlfriend out of fear of the coronavirus:

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An Illinois man who suspected his girlfriend had contracted COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, shot and killed her and then himself, authorities said.

Both tested negative for the disease.
Looks like he shot her and then himself. She had been tested a few days before but, from what I can glean, hadn't received her results back. Apparently the man had been in fear of COVID-19 for awhile. Sad to hear.
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And it's not just mental health suffering, with obesity up, exercise down and booze sales through the roof: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vi...79af1070e.html
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And it's not just mental health suffering, with obesity up, exercise down and booze sales through the roof: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vi...79af1070e.html
Pennsylvania liquor stores are state run and were closed. As a result people were streaming over the border into West Virginia to buy liquor. At least two counties have banned liquor sales to anyone not holding a West Virginia driver's license or other ID. It became a health hazard around here as we are just outside of the Pittsburgh suburbs and yinzers were mobbing the stores.

It would make an interesting constitutional law exam question. Commerce clause, 21st amendment (repealing prohibition), Privileges and Immunities clause, power of the state w/r/t public health, etc.
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And it's not just mental health suffering, with obesity up, exercise down and booze sales through the roof: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vi...79af1070e.html
We haven't been closed down in NoDak, and my wife and I will try to take the dogs for a walk. Honestly though, it's getting more and more complicated. We've had some bad weather, and spring just gets the dogs full of mud.

I can also say that my drinking hasn't increased at all. I'm still my normal Friday & Saturday heavy drinker and nothing during the week.

You're absolutely right though, this virus seems to be able to get you no matter what.
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Pennsylvania liquor stores are state run and were closed. As a result people were streaming over the border into West Virginia to buy liquor. At least two counties have banned liquor sales to anyone not holding a West Virginia driver's license or other ID. It became a health hazard around here as we are just outside of the Pittsburgh suburbs and yinzers were mobbing the stores.

It would make an interesting constitutional law exam question. Commerce clause, 21st amendment (repealing prohibition), Privileges and Immunities clause, power of the state w/r/t public health, etc.
What happened to the old ways? You would have made your own moonshine and more. Those states must have some folk descendants still doing it.
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Old 7th April 2020, 07:42 PM   #53
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What happened to the old ways? You would have made your own moonshine and more. Those states must have some folk descendants still doing it.
Many will, if that's what it takes. It is surprisingly easy to make hootch, you can do it even in prison with guards watching every little thing.

And speaking of practicing the old ways, my wife minds her place.

And boy is she dreamy. Not a care in the world, really. We've never been happier.

So mind your place, girls.

I can suggest some good material for anyone interested. Hutterites, Mennonite, Amish, there are a lot of societies where the women are valued more. Or should I say produce more value. Islam. Traditional societies anywhere field women who produce high value in the home.

It is obviously a problem when a woman produces no value in the home like now in the West. That's the point of feminism. So it follows that where feminism is more prevalent, the problem of domestic violence will be more significant: Putting women in homes, the antithesis of feminism, where they are not trained to be and where they produce little or no value.

Do you see the Hutterites whining about the coming domestic violence problem? Or us? No, my wife has her mouth shut down there in the kitchen washing dishes.

We homeschool anyway, mostly FLDS stuff on polygamy. So again, the traditionally-minded families are having less of an issue or even no issues at all because of coronavirus. The wife is where she belongs already.
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Many will, if that's what it takes. It is surprisingly easy to make hootch, you can do it even in prison with guards watching every little thing.

And speaking of practicing the old ways, my wife minds her place.

And boy is she dreamy. Not a care in the world, really. We've never been happier.

So mind your place, girls.

I can suggest some good material for anyone interested. Hutterites, Mennonite, Amish, there are a lot of societies where the women are valued more. Or should I say produce more value. Islam. Traditional societies anywhere field women who produce high value in the home.

It is obviously a problem when a woman produces no value in the home like now in the West. That's the point of feminism. So it follows that where feminism is more prevalent, the problem of domestic violence will be more significant: Putting women in homes, the antithesis of feminism, where they are not trained to be and where they produce little or no value.

Do you see the Hutterites whining about the coming domestic violence problem? Or us? No, my wife has her mouth shut down there in the kitchen washing dishes.

We homeschool anyway, mostly FLDS stuff on polygamy. So again, the traditionally-minded families are having less of an issue or even no issues at all because of coronavirus. The wife is where she belongs already.
Please tell me this is satire.
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBushPilot View Post
Many will, if that's what it takes. It is surprisingly easy to make hootch, you can do it even in prison with guards watching every little thing.

And speaking of practicing the old ways, my wife minds her place.

And boy is she dreamy. Not a care in the world, really. We've never been happier.

So mind your place, girls.

I can suggest some good material for anyone interested. Hutterites, Mennonite, Amish, there are a lot of societies where the women are valued more. Or should I say produce more value. Islam. Traditional societies anywhere field women who produce high value in the home.

It is obviously a problem when a woman produces no value in the home like now in the West. That's the point of feminism. So it follows that where feminism is more prevalent, the problem of domestic violence will be more significant: Putting women in homes, the antithesis of feminism, where they are not trained to be and where they produce little or no value.

Do you see the Hutterites whining about the coming domestic violence problem? Or us? No, my wife has her mouth shut down there in the kitchen washing dishes.

We homeschool anyway, mostly FLDS stuff on polygamy. So again, the traditionally-minded families are having less of an issue or even no issues at all because of coronavirus. The wife is where she belongs already.
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBushPilot View Post
And speaking of practicing the old ways, my wife minds her place.


Not at all sinister...

Are you also required to mind your place?
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post
Not at all sinister...

Are you also required to mind your place?
Don't you know - this is the kind of language masters ALWAYS use to describe their slaves...

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