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Old 30th September 2016, 01:39 PM   #41
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I was looking up resources that might be of use to the folks in this thread and I found something I think Bjarne can tackle AND possibly use it to test his theories. It's simple instructions for a rig to, well, I'll let the text speak for itself:

Testing the Speed-of-Light Conspiracy

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There are a number of ways to measure the speed of light. If you’ve got an oscilloscope and a few spare parts, you can build your own apparatus for just a few bucks. Don’t believe the “lies” that “they” tell you: measure it yourself!
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Old 30th September 2016, 02:51 PM   #42
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I like the one where you measure the speed of light with chocolate and a microwave
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Old 2nd October 2016, 12:46 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
And as I wrote, the IIS and Galileo time dilation anomalies, will force you to think different.. It's only the starting Gun.. A new paradigm is coming sooner as you think
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Old 2nd October 2016, 12:47 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
Periods with inclination more or less aligned relative to DFA axis, make the orbit extreme elliptical.
Inclination periods more less perpendicular relative to DFA axis have the oppesite effect.
How fast the inclination can change, depend on 1.) speed og the object 2.) motion of the Sun and even the galaxy
But Hans this is all much to complecated for at left brain half.
So beforehand I give up to explian you further.
Really, no!!!
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Old 2nd October 2016, 12:48 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
Time, - time ,- is the keyword here
Sedna is SLOW'
Therefore the DFA impact on Sedna is SLOW too

OK ?
Really it is not - you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
I read som time ago (but forgot where) that there is also a seasonal anomaly in the data, of the Pioneer Anomaly - do someone remember...
There are some important points here
Actually, there is not even one - as has heretofor been noted to assist you in your chosen mission.........
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Old 2nd October 2016, 12:52 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
The new theory solves both these anomalies / problems too
Actually, it does not, but good, though completely wrong, try!!!!!
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Originally Posted by MRC_Hans View Post
Really? Do explain. Preferably in some detail. Don't be afraid to supply some math.

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That will not happen unless at the hands of someone sharing this false assumption set but having a minimal set of math skills !!!!!
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Old 2nd October 2016, 01:09 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
I think you 7 times told me, - that if there was any science I did not understood, everybody was willing to help.
I guess you mean only the brainwashed part right ?

Not aspect where observation is conflicting with the brainwashed aspect of "science" I believe?


Real science has no brainwashing - it is real and well tested and anyone who can legitimately show otherwise will certainly find employment and acceptance in the scientific world. You tend to make your way best only by proving your abilities and knowledge.

Observation is how real science starts, followed by thorough experimentation and checks by others in the field. It also helps if you were in a graduate level program with a lead who was very well established in the field. If not, you have no chance of being /having your beliefs accepted because you lack the background and experimental experience - and the access to materials and needed expertise to assist your appropriate doctorate or two in a field related to this discussion, feel free to prove same. If not, do not expect to have your claims accepted!!!
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Originally Posted by fuelair View Post
That will not happen unless at the hands of someone sharing this false assumption set but having a minimal set of math skills !!!!!
Which, unfortunately, is a combination rather unlikely to exist.

... Or, perhaps fortunately.

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New Findings Muddy Understanding Of Dark Matter

https://www.insidescience.org/news/n...earscience.com
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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
New Findings Muddy Understanding Of Dark Matter

https://www.insidescience.org/news/n...earscience.com
"However, "if you look at high-precision measurements of the large-scale structure of the universe and how the cosmos has evolved to the present day, the entire picture of cosmology all hangs together much better with dark matter than with MOND," Loeb said. "It gives us confidence that Einstein's theory of gravity works, and that nothing unusual like MOND is needed.""

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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
New Findings Muddy Understanding Of Dark Matter

https://www.insidescience.org/news/n...earscience.com
Is this about your delusions for the Galileo satellites? No !
Is this about your delusions for the ISS experiment that you still are ignorant about? No !
Does it have anything to do with SR or GR being wrong? Not at all !

This is an "old" (5 weeks!) article about the The Radial Acceleration Relation in Rotationally Supported Galaxies paper.

Stacy McGaugh is an advocate of modified GR as an explanation for dark matter. IOW GR is right but needs a tweak to explain the observations for dark matter.

This empirical relation was a problem for 20 year old simulations of dark matter in galaxies. But what if we run a modern simulation that includes more understanding of galaxy dynamics? The first results are that galaxies + dark matter also follow this relationship: Physicists Beat Yet Another Challenge To Dark Matter's Existence
Not quite "beaten" because the simulation in La Fin du MOND? Λ CDM is Fully Consistent with SPARC Acceleration Law is for a small sample of galaxies with a much smaller range of masses.

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Originally Posted by Bjarne View Post
New Findings Muddy Understanding Of Dark Matter



https://www.insidescience.org/news/n...earscience.com


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Oh don't worry, this thread will rise again before the end of 2017 when relativity begins to fall apart.
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Oh don't worry, this thread will rise again before the end of 2017 when relativity begins to fall apart.


Is the thread a zombie or a litch?
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Is the thread a zombie or a litch?
Liche - at least that's what my Monster Manual says.
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Liche - at least that's what my Monster Manual says.
Damn, and it's too late to correct the error in my post. Apparently "Lich" is also a valid spelling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich
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Real science has no brainwashing - it is real and well tested and anyone who can legitimately show otherwise will certainly find employment and acceptance in the scientific world. You tend to make your way best only by proving your abilities and knowledge.

Observation is how real science starts, followed by thorough experimentation and checks by others in the field. It also helps if you were in a graduate level program with a lead who was very well established in the field. If not, you have no chance of being /having your beliefs accepted because you lack the background and experimental experience - and the access to materials and needed expertise to assist your appropriate doctorate or two in a field related to this discussion, feel free to prove same. If not, do not expect to have your claims accepted!!!
Why is the validity of the arguments not enough to accept an idea?
Why do you have to be member of a (scientific) community and follow its protocols, to prove your point?

Being right has everything to do with true premisses, valid logical reasoning and therefore true conclusion.
To follow a protocol dictated by a scientific community is not a crucial criterium to have a good theory to explain the facts.

Being part of the social network, called 'the scientific community' and follow its strict procedures can limit your freedom to think a problem through on your own terms.
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Why is the validity of the arguments not enough to accept an idea?
You did not quite understand what was written, Maartenn100.
"Real science is not brainwashing" means that real science includes teaching people how to think for themselves so that they can evaluate the arguments and evidence for themselves.

People who can show that the evidence for science is wrong "will certainly find employment and acceptance in the scientific world" because testing theories to see if they are wrong is a fundamental part of science. This is what Internet physics cranks cannot do.

There are no overall "strict procedures" for the scientific community. There are accepted standards, e.g. a paper published in a high impact, peer reviewed journal is probably valid. There are standards for writing scientific papers.
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I finally have the proof that relativity is falling apart. I drive quite a bit for work and sometimes I drive fast and change elevation as there are hills. On Monday November 7th, the clock in my car was fully one hour ahead of my home computer's clock. Now, I know I wasn't driving that fast. Case closed.
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Originally Posted by Maartenn100 View Post
Why is the validity of the arguments not enough to accept an idea?
Oh, but it is. The trick is proving the validity of your arguments.

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Why do you have to be member of a (scientific) community and follow its protocols, to prove your point?
You don't. However, standard protocols are recommended, because they are known to work.

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Being right has everything to do with true premises, valid logical reasoning and therefore true conclusion.
Well, you left out the most important thing: Evidence.

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So what happens when the Theory of Relativity fails? Should I dig a bomb shelter and buy supplies from "mypatriotsupply.com"?

http://www.mypatriotsupply.com/Emerg...Food_s/104.htm

Not only do you get delicious pantry products but you get an unending supply of tin foil. Just the way to survive the upcoming physics collapse. I just wish Bjarne would nail down the date a bit better. Is it 2016 or 2017? The construction Forman wants to know.
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So what happens when the Theory of Relativity fails? Should I dig a bomb shelter and buy supplies from "mypatriotsupply.com"?
The theory of relativity cannot fail. The phenomenon it describes have been objectively proved to exist. ... There might be a theory that explains them even better, but reality will stay ... reality. Only our understanding will change.

As for the stuff there, well ... Before you purchase a year's worth of supplies, check that your shelter's toilet capacity matches it. Otherwise you will be in ... deep ****.

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So what happens when the Theory of Relativity fails? Should I dig a bomb shelter and buy supplies from "mypatriotsupply.com"?

http://www.mypatriotsupply.com/Emerg...Food_s/104.htm

Not only do you get delicious pantry products but you get an unending supply of tin foil. Just the way to survive the upcoming physics collapse. I just wish Bjarne would nail down the date a bit better. Is it 2016 or 2017? The construction Forman wants to know.
I would guess that within a few months, the date will move to 2018.
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The one experiment that we have details about (ISS Utilization: ACES (Atomic Clock Ensemble in Space) / PHARAO) makes the thread title ignorant. ACES will launch in August 2017. There will be 6 months of calibration bringing us to February 2018. Then at least a year of data gathering - February 2019. Add a few months to write papers and the earliest we can expect results is the middle of 2019 and it may be 2010.
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The one experiment that we have details about (ISS Utilization: ACES (Atomic Clock Ensemble in Space) / PHARAO) makes the thread title ignorant. ACES will launch in August 2017. There will be 6 months of calibration bringing us to February 2018. Then at least a year of data gathering - February 2019. Add a few months to write papers and the earliest we can expect results is the middle of 2019 and it may be 2010.


Oh, there's a lot more than that making the thread title ignorant.
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Relativity and the Lovecraft connection.

H.P. Lovecraft and the phantom planet

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But what of the mystery of Vulcan, and the unexplained motion of Mercury that led to its hypothesis? Here also there is a connection to Lovecraft. In 1915, Albert Einstein introduced his relativistic theory of gravity, known as the general theory of relativity, and showed that this theory precisely predicts the anomalous behavior of Mercury as observed. It was not a new planet that was needed to explain Mercuryís motion, but a new theory of gravity. Einsteinís theory is now of fundamental importance to our understanding of the universe as a whole, the study of cosmology. As already mentioned, Lovecraft would take Einsteinís theory ó which describes gravity as a curvature of space and time ó and worked it into his descriptions of the nightmarish city of Rílyeh.


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A new paradigm is coming sooner as you think
Has it fallen apart yet? (I don't want to miss the event)
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The one experiment that we have details about (ISS Utilization: ACES (Atomic Clock Ensemble in Space) / PHARAO) makes the thread title ignorant. ACES will launch in August 2017. There will be 6 months of calibration bringing us to February 2018. Then at least a year of data gathering - February 2019. Add a few months to write papers and the earliest we can expect results is the middle of 2019 and it may be 2010.
If that timeline is accurate, then it definitely proves that time-manipulation is real.
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Well, it has to be kept 'alive' for a bit, only 11 more months.

Unless of course we get a 'well it fell apart, but THEY are keeping it hidden because of reasons'
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I've just kicked the tyres and ran it around the block, seems fine to me.
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That's "tires," dammit!

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