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Old 4th December 2019, 05:19 PM   #1601
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It may be fashionable to rag on Perl, but it does have excellent performance.

A while ago I was testing database scaling with GNU dbm and Berkeley dbm. I needed a large dataset and hit on the idea of using a number as the key (e.g. "123456789") and the number's words in English as the data (e.g. "one hundred twenty-three million, four hundred fifty-six thousand, seven hundred eighty-nine".) Such a dataset is by its very nature infinitely scalable. The algorithm I developed is pretty straightforward, and out of curiosity I ended up implementing it in several languages.

Here are the results from tests I ran on my laptop (Intel Pentium 3825U, 1.90GHz), in thousands of records generated per second:

Compiled C program (gcc -O3): 2,840
PHP 7: 403
mawk (a fast version of awk): 311
Perl: 287
Lua: 164
Ruby: 158
Java: 137
Python: 116
TCL: 68
Bash script: 6.4

The Perl program ran at more than twice the speed of the equivalent Python and Java programs.

On more powerful hardware such as a Ryzen CPU, Java and Python fared better when compared with Perl, running at 79% and 68% (respectively) the speed of the Perl program.
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Old 4th December 2019, 05:22 PM   #1602
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Originally Posted by Blue Mountain View Post
I understand. As a programmer my first impulse on hearing of any computer issue is to figure out how to write a solution for it. Shocking as it may seem to me, there actually are things in life more important than programming or learning how to program.
Yeah, like I said, this task is ideal for automation, but it's not going to happen.

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Old 4th December 2019, 07:48 PM   #1603
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I was just asked by one of the management team to submit a request for an increase in my security clearance. Since this is a prerequisite for the position I've been going for, I think things are starting to look pretty good.
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I was just asked by one of the management team to submit a request for an increase in my security clearance. Since this is a prerequisite for the position I've been going for, I think things are starting to look pretty good.
By George, I think you've got it!
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Old 4th December 2019, 07:59 PM   #1605
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Then again, there's this rather ominous sounding development: https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ervice-changes

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Prime minister Scott Morrison has announced a major shake-up of the public service that will see four departments abolished, five secretaries sacked, and responsibility for emissions reductions removed from the department of environment.

Under the changes outlined by Morrison on Thursday, 18 government departments will be reduced to 14, with the prime minister saying the move would see “better services on the ground”.

He said the changes were not a savings measure, and there were no job losses expected. There will also be no changes to the ministry.
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Old 4th December 2019, 08:03 PM   #1606
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Then again, there's this rather ominous sounding development: https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ervice-changes
That's not likely to impact me much. We've already had the obligatory stand-up meeting about it. Essentially our two largest clients are going to merge and become one super-client.
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Well that was an unusual call. Here is a near-exact transcript:

Hello, Service Desk, how can I help?

Everything is working, nothing is going wrong, and you're all doing a great job.

Uh... thanks.

Bye! *click*
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Old 4th December 2019, 10:01 PM   #1608
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Well that was an unusual call. Here is a near-exact transcript:

Hello, Service Desk, how can I help?

Everything is working, nothing is going wrong, and you're all doing a great job.

Uh... thanks.

Bye! *click*
I got through to you!

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I got through to you!

Not unless you're secretly an attractive blonde lady you didn't.
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Old 5th December 2019, 12:49 AM   #1610
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Well that was an unusual call. Here is a near-exact transcript:

Hello, Service Desk, how can I help?

Everything is working, nothing is going wrong, and you're all doing a great job.

Uh... thanks.

Bye! *click*
That's a phenomenon called "appreciation". It's very rarely found in the wild. You should consider yourself lucky to have observed it first hand.
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Old 5th December 2019, 01:24 AM   #1611
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Not unless you're secretly an attractive blonde lady you didn't.
Clearly Norman's talents know no bounds!
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Not unless you're secretly an attractive blonde lady you didn't.
You have no idea how secret I am! The rest...nah.
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Originally Posted by Tolls View Post
Clearly Norman's talents know no bounds!
Since I have none, bounds are of no consequence.
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Old 5th December 2019, 02:50 PM   #1614
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
<gasps><clutches perl>
If there were a pith award for nerds, you would so win with this one.
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Old 5th December 2019, 02:53 PM   #1615
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I'm super happy - I've been in this same role at my company since 2006. (with a brief interruption around 2014, but that's a whole 'nuther story). I'm good at it, and there is only a very small subset of people in the country that do what I do. It's why they *love* me.

Anyway, they asked me to learn this other thing! New Things! Shiny objects!

So, I've been having a blast the last two days playing around with the new thing. I'm in fake it until you make it mode.

Wonder what this button does? <click>

Whee!
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That's a phenomenon called "appreciation". It's very rarely found in the wild. You should consider yourself lucky to have observed it first hand.
I did lodge a feedback incident about it.

They've got me almost entirely on Service Requests now. That's the boring, repetitive stuff, but in terms of career positioning it's where I want to be.
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Old 6th December 2019, 01:30 AM   #1617
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Originally Posted by Faydra View Post
Wonder what this button does? <click>
Otherwhere in the building someone is going insane because the lights keep turning off...
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Old 6th December 2019, 11:45 AM   #1618
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That's a phenomenon called "appreciation". It's very rarely found in the wild. You should consider yourself lucky to have observed it first hand.
Anecdotes don't make evidence. I am sure there is a rational explanation for arthwolipot's claim, he was probably on drugs or had a crossed line on the phone.

You claiming it had to be a supernatural act before all the rational reasons are exhausted is not very sceptical. I know people have made claims of "appreciation" in the IT support profession for decades but we are yet to see one single iota of solid evidence it actually happens.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Well that was an unusual call. Here is a near-exact transcript:

Hello, Service Desk, how can I help?

Everything is working, nothing is going wrong, and you're all doing a great job.

Uh... thanks.

Bye! *click*
You gave your mom your work number?
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Anecdotes don't make evidence. I am sure there is a rational explanation for arthwolipot's claim, he was probably on drugs or had a crossed line on the phone.

You claiming it had to be a supernatural act before all the rational reasons are exhausted is not very sceptical. I know people have made claims of "appreciation" in the IT support profession for decades but we are yet to see one single iota of solid evidence it actually happens.
It’s usually a case of HR reflecting swamp gas from the need to pay techies the going rate.
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
It’s usually a case of HR reflecting swamp gas from the need to pay techies the going rate.

I suppose 'swamp' gas could be one name for it.

If it's coming from HR that would be a polite way to describe it.
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Okay friends, I know you've been as much on the edge of your seats about this as I have been on mine. I heard back about the interview.

My interview was successful.

But.

There's always a but. This but is but there are more successful applicants than there are positions to fill. So I don't have the position. However, it is still a win for me, because I am now on a merit list for 12 months. During this time I can be offered any APS4-level position in Tech Services without an application or an interview. I would of course like a position here in the Service Desk because it's what I know and enjoy, but if I can get a permanency in another team, you bet I'll take it.

Furthermore, we are about to go through a massive MoG (Machinery of Government) shakeup because of this, so who knows what positions at this level may open up in a couple of months?

So for now, I'm not in the position I wanted but I'm not disappointed because I know that I am good enough for it.

And yeah, I'll be subtly hinting to the existing 4s here to think about advancing their careers too.
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Okay friends, I know you've been as much on the edge of your seats about this as I have been on mine. I heard back about the interview.

My interview was successful.

But.

There's always a but. This but is but there are more successful applicants than there are positions to fill. So I don't have the position. However, it is still a win for me, because I am now on a merit list for 12 months. During this time I can be offered any APS4-level position in Tech Services without an application or an interview. I would of course like a position here in the Service Desk because it's what I know and enjoy, but if I can get a permanency in another team, you bet I'll take it.

Furthermore, we are about to go through a massive MoG (Machinery of Government) shakeup because of this, so who knows what positions at this level may open up in a couple of months?

So for now, I'm not in the position I wanted but I'm not disappointed because I know that I am good enough for it.

And yeah, I'll be subtly hinting to the existing 4s here to think about advancing their careers too.
If there are no openings the logical course is to make some. Does this workplace have shared coffee pots? The second statement is unrelated to the first, and neither are related to the ubiquity of toxic plant life globally and in your region particularly. I'm certainly not suggesting the course of action you're thinking of, wink wink.
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Okay friends, I know you've been as much on the edge of your seats about this as I have been on mine. I heard back about the interview.

My interview was successful.

But.

There's always a but. This but is but there are more successful applicants than there are positions to fill. So I don't have the position. However, it is still a win for me, because I am now on a merit list for 12 months. During this time I can be offered any APS4-level position in Tech Services without an application or an interview. I would of course like a position here in the Service Desk because it's what I know and enjoy, but if I can get a permanency in another team, you bet I'll take it.

Furthermore, we are about to go through a massive MoG (Machinery of Government) shakeup because of this, so who knows what positions at this level may open up in a couple of months?

So for now, I'm not in the position I wanted but I'm not disappointed because I know that I am good enough for it.

And yeah, I'll be subtly hinting to the existing 4s here to think about advancing their careers too.
While not perhaps the best possible result, it still sounds like you've gotten yourself into a good position, Congrats!

I'm a bit excited to be moving to a new job soon, myself .

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If there are no openings the logical course is to make some. Does this workplace have shared coffee pots? The second statement is unrelated to the first, and neither are related to the ubiquity of toxic plant life globally and in your region particularly. I'm certainly not suggesting the course of action you're thinking of, wink wink.
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Okay friends, I know you've been as much on the edge of your seats about this as I have been on mine. I heard back about the interview.

My interview was successful.

But.

There's always a but. This but is but there are more successful applicants than there are positions to fill. So I don't have the position. However, it is still a win for me, because I am now on a merit list for 12 months. During this time I can be offered any APS4-level position in Tech Services without an application or an interview. I would of course like a position here in the Service Desk because it's what I know and enjoy, but if I can get a permanency in another team, you bet I'll take it.

Furthermore, we are about to go through a massive MoG (Machinery of Government) shakeup because of this, so who knows what positions at this level may open up in a couple of months?

So for now, I'm not in the position I wanted but I'm not disappointed because I know that I am good enough for it.

And yeah, I'll be subtly hinting to the existing 4s here to think about advancing their careers too.
They might phase up instead of you 4s bootstrapping.

Sort of thing.

No-one to be left behind.

(You probably helped users too.)

Well done for going for it.
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Anyone else here on there?
Yes.

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I don't think your ID is sufficient for people to find you there.
User name is required too.
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Yep
Good grief, I had heard that Elmo had a substance abuse problem, but I had no idea it was that bad.
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I have news!

Starting next week I'll be moving fully over on to Service Requests. From there they have a non-ongoing APS3 position to put me into, though we are on a recruitment pause right now because MoG. One of the TLs though - a 4 - is moving on to an APS5 position in Desktop Support in February, so that's going to open up a vacancy, and that is an ongoing position.

Things are definitely Looking Up.
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Old 13th January 2020, 05:05 PM   #1635
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
I have news!

Starting next week I'll be moving fully over on to Service Requests. From there they have a non-ongoing APS3 position to put me into, though we are on a recruitment pause right now because MoG. One of the TLs though - a 4 - is moving on to an APS5 position in Desktop Support in February, so that's going to open up a vacancy, and that is an ongoing position.

Things are definitely Looking Up.
Enjoy the extra responsibility and the moolah that goes with it.
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Enjoy the extra responsibility and the moolah that goes with it.
I'm definitely looking forward to enjoying the moolah. But even more, paid sick leave and flextime. I now have an administrator account and I have submitted my application for an increase to my security clearance.
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I'm definitely looking forward to enjoying the moolah. But even more, paid sick leave and flextime. I now have an administrator account and I have submitted my application for an increase to my security clearance.
Can you fix my PC from there now?
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Can you fix my PC from there now?
No.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
I have news!

Starting next week I'll be moving fully over on to Service Requests. From there they have a non-ongoing APS3 position to put me into, though we are on a recruitment pause right now because MoG. One of the TLs though - a 4 - is moving on to an APS5 position in Desktop Support in February, so that's going to open up a vacancy, and that is an ongoing position.

Things are definitely Looking Up.

Congratulations! Now could you please explain the highlighted items.
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Congratulations! Now could you please explain the highlighted items.
That's fair.

The Australian Public Service (APS) has a system of classifying their staff according to their ability and experience. It starts with the APS classifications - APS1 at the bottom, APS6 at the top. Above that is Executive Level - EL1 and EL2. These are management positions and are generally section heads. My boss is an EL1. Above that you have the Special Executive Service who are in charge of whole divisions of a public service department.

I applied for, and was successful at attaining, an APS4 position. This is about the highest I can go without supervisory duties. My Team Leader (TL) (who is distinct from my boss) is an APS5. The higher the number, the higher the moolah, but also the higher the responsibility.

MoG stands for Machinery of Government. At the end of last year, Megablaze Morrison announced that, amongst other shakeups in the Public Service, the department of Education was going to merge with the department of Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business. These two departments are our biggest clients, and they're going to be mushed together. That means work. All of the work required to implement that change is characterised as part of the MoG.
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