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Old 6th December 2019, 12:41 PM   #41
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I understand that In the USA “whole pig” sausage is considered a plus because otherwise it is all ears, snout, jowls, etc.
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Old 6th December 2019, 12:46 PM   #42
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Are you sure you aren't remembering "in a pig's eye!"? I think I heard Bones say that once to Spock.
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Old 6th December 2019, 01:15 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
If there's a no pork pie, I want a no pork pie hat.
That's a little extreme, no?
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Old 6th December 2019, 01:45 PM   #44
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Someone is telling porkies?
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Old 6th December 2019, 03:46 PM   #45
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I remember people in Rochester getting upset when an article in The New Yorker described Garbage Plates as originating in Buffalo.
Born in Rochester, NY and lived in the immediate region most of my life. Garbage plates rock. I had a gig in Greece and had to drive past the Gate's Nick Tahou's on the way home after last call. They had my order started as soon as they saw me walk in the door.

Buffalo can have their wings, Plates are our heritage!
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Old 6th December 2019, 03:54 PM   #46
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Seems mean and silly. Surely there are vegetarians/vegans, or even just people who are curious about them, in the town who'd like to have these things available without the fuss of having to order them. How can offering more choices to people ever be the wrong thing to do? And the pork lovers of Melton Mowbury really so small minded as to be offended if people are offered something they wouldn't like themselves?
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Old 6th December 2019, 04:01 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Seismosaurus View Post
Seems mean and silly. Surely there are vegetarians/vegans, or even just people who are curious about them, in the town who'd like to have these things available without the fuss of having to order them. How can offering more choices to people ever be the wrong thing to do? And the pork lovers of Melton Mowbury really so small minded as to be offended if people are offered something they wouldn't like themselves?
Hold on a minute. You seem to have actually read the story! I call shenanigans.
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Old 6th December 2019, 04:03 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Seismosaurus View Post
Seems mean and silly. Surely there are vegetarians/vegans, or even just people who are curious about them, in the town who'd like to have these things available without the fuss of having to order them. How can offering more choices to people ever be the wrong thing to do? And the pork lovers of Melton Mowbury really so small minded as to be offended if people are offered something they wouldn't like themselves?
It's a publicity stunt. And it's working.
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I'm interested to see where rockysmith76 was going..
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
I thought this was going to be anti Muslim scaremongering at first

But regarding the decision: I never understand how people can see the mere existence of something they wouldn't choose to do or buy as enough of an assault on their identity to take actions like this. Let people eat pies with a different filling, you can still buy the ones you like and everyone's happy.
Hard to say what Mowbray's offense is based on, but it could be similar to what I see here in some BC communities: a history of raising animals for food as a family business going back generations, which makes veganism a threat to their livelihood.

My sister is very fru-fru (worships the pagan Earth Goddess, practices yoga, hosts chickenpox parties, &c) but she knows to stfu about veganism in her rural community, as others who tried before her got bricks thrown through their livingroom windows. This is rancher country. Your neighbours are scratching out a living here, don't give people ideas.


ETA: there's also the perception of being judged. The Vegan option implicitly exists as the 'ethical' option. People who raise food animals hate being reminded that they're portrayed as the bad guys in this worldview.
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Old 6th December 2019, 04:23 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by blutoski View Post
Hard to say what Mowbray's offense is based on, but it could be similar to what I see here in some BC communities: a history of raising animals for food as a family business going back generations, which makes veganism a threat to their livelihood.

My sister is very fru-fru (worships the pagan Earth Goddess, practices yoga, hosts chickenpox parties, &c) but she knows to stfu about veganism in her rural community, as others who tried before her got bricks thrown through their livingroom windows. This is rancher country. Your neighbours are scratching out a living here, don't give people ideas.


ETA: there's also the perception of being judged. The Vegan option implicitly exists as the 'ethical' option. People who raise food animals hate being reminded that they're portrayed as the bad guys in this worldview.
My bold. It's not based on anything because it doesn't exist. It's a pure and simple (and brilliant) publicity stunt.

I looked up Melton Mowbray. I find myself FAR to amused that it's just down the road from Frisby on the Wreake.
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Old 6th December 2019, 04:24 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by p0lka View Post
I'm interested to see where rockysmith76 was going..
Not in the direction of reading comprehension, that's for sure.
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Back on track - I think Morrisons have gone about this very ham fistedly
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Seems like an empathic and reasonable move from the company.
Pandering to reactionaries and the livestock industry that feeds them.
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Old 6th December 2019, 05:46 PM   #55
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Back on track - I think Morrisons have gone about this very ham fistedly
They should be bacon those pies for everyone, and not exclude that one town!
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Old 6th December 2019, 06:23 PM   #56
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As much as I dislike vegans trying to put meat names on their products to confuse us normal people, it seems a tad OTT.

My particular beef (couldn't help myself) atm the moment is our supermarkets are mixing the weirdo vegan pretend food in the meat section with real stuff and putting labels like "vegan BEEF BURGERS". To try to get you to buy them.

Each one a land mine of horridness to your average dyslexic meat eater real man.
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
As much as I dislike vegans trying to put meat names on their products to confuse us normal people, it seems a tad OTT.

My particular beef (couldn't help myself) atm the moment is our supermarkets are mixing the weirdo vegan pretend food in the meat section with real stuff and putting labels like "vegan BEEF BURGERS". To try to get you to buy them.

Each one a land mine of horridness to your average dyslexic meat eater real man.
“Real man” “us normal people” “pretend food” “weirdo vegan”

Ok, boomer.

ETA: “ vegans trying to put meat names on their products to confuse us” it’s all a dastardly plot!

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Old 6th December 2019, 08:06 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
“Real man” “us normal people” “pretend food” “weirdo vegan”

Ok, boomer.

ETA: “ vegans trying to put meat names on their products to confuse us” it’s all a dastardly plot!
Damn right it is.

Only boomers eat meat....ok

BTW. I am not old enough to be one.

But I appreciate the effort you made to type that post. It must be difficult given the lack of energy.
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Sorry

Those were kind of a wind up posts.

I have nothing against veggies or vegans, as long as they don't get all preachy about it.

They just tend to be easily wound up.

I apologise for being a bit windy uppy.
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Sorry

Those were kind of a wind up posts.

I have nothing against veggies or vegans, as long as they don't get all preachy about it.

They just tend to be easily wound up.

I apologise for being a bit windy uppy.
“I have nothing against <insert subject of reactionary anxiety> , as long as they don't get all preachy STFU about it.”

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“I have nothing against <insert subject of reactionary anxiety> , as long as they don't get all preachy about it.”
Fair call

It can seem like a religion sometimes
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I now know what 'garbage plates' are...

... somehow, I do not feel enriched by this knowledge.
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That was my first initial thoughts, the "leaked" memo, yeah pull the other one it's got an oink on it!
Yep.
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That was my first initial thoughts, the "leaked" memo, yeah pull the other one it's got an oink on it!
Oinkment!
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Oinkment!
I think they’ve really juiced the piglet.
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“I have nothing against <insert subject of reactionary anxiety> , as long as they don't get all preachy STFU about it.”
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Back on track - I think Morrisons have gone about this very ham fistedly
Yes, it seems to be a decision based on brawn not brain.

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I was expecting this to be a kerfuffle about hats. Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be about real "pork pies".
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No, it's false voice of Politically Correct cowtowing instead of offering a option for all involved. The UK is not a Muslim country so Muslims that live there can buy Hallal as is their right and leave others to their own.
Sigh. No it's not. You're spouting drivel. Again.
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Yo Mamma!
So you've given up any pretense of rational discussion?
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No porcine puns in this one, I'm afraid, just a potentially interesting bit of trivia. When I met the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association head about 10 years ago, he confessed to me that he was vegetarian.

ETA - read the BBC article and he is still there! Matthew O'Callaghan.

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That's a little extreme, no?
Ha! Worry not. Unlike the store, I shall not abandon my extensive collection of pork pie hats. They're special. One of the fuzzy little buggers became sentient a few years back.
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Yes, it seems to be a decision based on brawn not brain.



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No, it's false voice of Politically Correct cowtowing instead of offering a option for all involved. The UK is not a Muslim country so Muslims that live there can buy Hallal as is their right and leave others to their own.
Wow, that's just.... Wow.....
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I now know what 'garbage plates' are...

... somehow, I do not feel enriched by this knowledge.

Same here. And then I went and looked at all the related links.
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Fair call

It can seem like a religion sometimes
This is the state of diets, though. My intersection of psychology education, fitness/strength training and skepticism gives me a depressing perspective on this: it's a great real world example of Attribution biasWP.

"My diet (veganism, vegetarianism, paleo/meat, low carb, low fat, traditional local, slow food, local food, organic, calorie restriction, periodic fasting...) is the One True Diet, so I'm actually doing people a favour when I try convince everybody to follow it. Other people and their diets... well they're just mindlessly following a fad/religion and preachy, they should all just shut up."
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Politically Correct cowtowing
Yes, there's always the delicate problem of where to bolt on the hitch.
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I bet none of you have tried Lutefisk yet.
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Pork Pies are awful. Everyone should be protesting about their presence wherever they're sold.
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