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15th July 2011, 05:27 PM | #1 |
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Howard Stern show from 9/11/01
Howard Stern is now heard on Sirius satellite radio, and today they replayed the 9/11/01 show in the History of Howard Stern series, day 10, segment 3.
I'd only heard snippets before, and on 9/11 was unable to listen to the actual attack related content due to work and the attack itself. It's clear to me in listening to the first news reports that Stern played through his show that the misinformation at the time is a major contributing factor to the CT "truther" crowd. I wasn't able to make a comprehensive list, but some of the high points: "Secondary explosions" "2 Hijacked aircraft" (after the four now known flights were accounted for) on the way to Los Angeles, One hijacked airliner circling Dulles escorted by F-16's. Bombs at Camp David. Car bomb at the State Department. The news reporters (not from Stern, TV reports he was playing through his show) were obviously in a state of shock, as was everyone, and imo can't be faulted for their reporting, but I wish that somebody in the media made an effort to correct all the bogus stories, as Stern did the next day. Had the major news stations done so, it may have stopped some of the nonsense that the nutters glommed onto. OT - it was refreshing to hear somebody in the media react honestly to the attack, as Stern and his crew did, as opposed to the way the network talking heads reacted. That show was truely Stern's finest moment - he went from explaining why he thought he could have "had" Pamela Anderson to reporting on the attacks like it was the most natural thing in the world. I've always given him credit for his comedy chops, but he showed his skills that day in a way I never imagined. |
15th July 2011, 06:33 PM | #2 |
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I only caught the last hour or so of his show on 9/11, but I listened to the repeat on the 1 year anniversary. Things that stand out:
The idea that the first plane might be a terrorist attack was discussed before the second plane confirmed it. The name Osama Bin Laden came up within a half hour of the first impact, I can't remember if it was first mentioned before the second plane, but if not very soon after. Sometime around 10:00 Howard made a remark to the effect that those buildings won't stay standing. Howard Stern had 9/11 pretty much figured out in real time on 9/11. How long will it take twoofers to catch up? |
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15th July 2011, 08:29 PM | #3 |
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I had a copy of it that I downloaded from somewhere (I lost it in a hard drive crash a few years back, kids don't forget to back up your data).
Bin Laden was mentioned about ten minutes or so after the second hit. That it was clearly a terrorist attack was mentioned within the first five minutes. Obviously that means that Howard Stern and his sidekick chick were in on it too... |
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15th July 2011, 08:44 PM | #4 |
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Stern's first reaction when the second plane hit was "we're under attack!" and he went on to say that it was time to hit back, and "we know who did this, but I can't say, but you know." OBL came up shortly after that.
Lots of talk about using "atomic bombs" etc and I sure can't fault that in the moment. Another thing that struck me was the eyewitness reports from show associates/fans, one from another guy from the station (Crazy Cabbie) who observed from the roof of his apartment building next to the Williamsburg bridge. If you remember, when the whole thing started Stern was on the phone with his stylist Ralph, who had an eyeball view of the towers from his apartment, and his reaction (I believe) was pretty typical. He went from dismissing the incident, to looking out his window to see the first damage and freaking right out and getting off the phone. Today they also played part of the 9/12 show, and they made mention of some of the erroneous reports from the day before, and stated that some of the stories (bombs, etc) weren't true - I don't recall ever seeing or hearing such disclaimers anywhere else in the media. I wish the big three network TV stations spent a little time explaining that in the heat of the moment of reporting the attack, they didn't get everything right. A part of me also wishes that somebody with big gov.org juice would have followed part of Stern's line of thought from the previous day, rather than having 10 years of war and loss on the ground behind us. |
15th July 2011, 08:50 PM | #5 |
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He has to be part of the conspiracy, because
A) He doesn't buy the "truth" ******** B) He's a rich, elite media gatekeeper C) He's a Jew Robin is black so she's merely a dupe... I've been called a conspirator myself, so if Howard is too, why isn't he ever at the meetings? |
15th July 2011, 10:24 PM | #6 |
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Ok, I found an mp3 copy of the original show similar to what I had before (it starts after the second plane hit though, mine started a few minutes before the first hit when they were discussing Pamela Andersons boobs).
I'm not sure what the JREF policy is on torrent files so a google search for: 66C08F3B291CA9984986C05F9034F3975B4DF9BE Will get you to some sites with the torrent file. I'm listening to it now and so far it sounds legit. |
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16th July 2011, 07:00 AM | #7 |
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16th July 2011, 09:36 AM | #8 |
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You know, I was actually listening to Stern's show that morning. But there was one problem: It was delayed by one hour in Chicago. So when I got to work at 8AM CST I had no clue that airplanes had hit the WTC, the local station didn't even break in with the news! So the first I heard about it was from a co-worker, and I couldn't believe it. So I turned on the news station and of course they were all over it.
To this day I can't understand why Stern's Chicago station didn't either break in with the news or end the tape-delay so we could hear Stern's show live. Nor can I understand why I listened to him back then... |
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16th July 2011, 11:15 AM | #9 |
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Of course, there is also the "September 11 Television Archive". If you really want a study in the media throwing any rumour they got out on the airwaves, it's a must watch: http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive
Danish TV also has their coverage of the day online (Geo-limited though), which is also highly interesting to watch. Especially the image of bin Laden that was being portrayed, considering the radically different picture that was painted in The Looming Tower. |
16th July 2011, 02:36 PM | #10 |
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16th July 2011, 05:59 PM | #11 |
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In the Naudet doc, Probie Tony Benetados knew we were under attack right away as well. Why, 10 years laters, do twoofers cling to this nonsense when the majority of us comprehended exactly what was going on in real time?
from the doc tony says: "someones got big balls" "this is war, this is war" And here we are 10 years later still putting up with the complete and utter idiocy of the truth movement. |
16th July 2011, 06:50 PM | #12 |
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I was in my office at 0530 pst that morning, preparing for a BOD meeting when my then girlfriend called up and told me about the first plane.
I got on the 'net and just about that time the second plane hit and there was no doubt in my mind what was happening, and where it came from. My only thought was if I could reinlist. Hearing the Stern show brought back all the same emotions from that day. The nutters are truely a sad bunch - the one's I've met face-to-face have not impressed me in any way. |
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A ten minute snippet of the show on 9/11
ETA: there are more parts: Part II
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19th July 2011, 10:17 AM | #14 |
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Wishful thinking. In fact conspiracy theorists incorporate any later explanations of erroneous reports into their conspiracy theory; they are trumpeted as evidence of the coverup. One of the moderators at 9-11 Blogger was on a Tulsa radio show a couple of weeks ago, and claimed that initial reports are always more accurate than later news stories, because afterwards, the "producers" whisper in the on-air talent's ears that they should downplay any elements of the story that don't gel with the official account.
You can also look at the corrections to the BBC report that several of the hijackers were alive after 9-11, or the famous Jane Standley report on the collapse of Building 7 (twenty minutes before it occurred). Although those initial accounts have been explained, Troofers still cling to them. |
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