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17th June 2011, 04:49 AM | #1481 |
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What about that verinage video? In the end clip they yank out the side of the top part of the building and it doesn't fall off, it goes down.
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17th June 2011, 03:23 PM | #1483 |
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CD/Natural Collapse
Just looked at the verinage YouTube video above. VERY interesting. It looks like the rest of the building is not weakened much at all, which the CD companies say is safer in earthquake-prone areas. So once they yank part of the building out of the side, the building naturally falls mostly straight down, even with the lateral forces of the wires pulling part of the building sideways!
Do I have this right? Don't want to say anything stupid at this late stage. Monday morning I record the whole Building 7 thing. Wish we could all go out for a drink together when this is all done! |
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Let me just take the explanation one step closer to the engineering.
The cables pull some vertical parts of the building so that those vertical bits break and/or are pulled out from between the remaining structure. The force applied by the cables is at about 45o to the horizontal therefore about 0.707 of the force applied is horizontal. That force causes the attached bit of building to break. The sum of those horizontal components for all of the Verinage wires is the only horizontal force applied to the building. It is very small compared to the weight of the whole building or even the weight of only the upper portion of building above the wire rope attachment level. AND it would be resisted by the bits of building not attacked by the Verinage. No way is the building going anywhere but down. Yes. |
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You will also notice in that video that it takes only the top three story's to completely destroy the remaining nine, Something that a few (now banned) truthers here claimed was impossible.
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BTW with W Smith's post we hit 1500 posts to this thread, equalling the number of Architects and Engineers on Richard Gage's petition!
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Wish me luck gang, I'm off to the video recording session in 2 hours. Thanks again for help in these months of prepping. There will be way more info and fewer errors than I had in the March 6 debate. Chris
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You're a better man than I, Chris. You have the patience of a saint.
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20th June 2011, 07:33 AM | #1491 |
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Since they make such a big deal of the molten metal I really hope you make the point found in this thread:
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Recording went well... Tomorrow the editing begins. Sure hope it goes easily! Next week I'll be in San Francisco watching four Wagner operas with Karen. Glad the heavy lifting is behind me!
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Chris - if you can contact Gage for me, tell him I will do one of two things for him:
(and I'm quite serious) 1) Pay for the remaining monies he needs to complete "Phase 3: AE Experts DVD" - about $1,400 bucks or 2) Do the editing he needs myself. Whichever one helps the most I'll do - under one condition: He needs to prove to me that the explosives could survive the aircraft impacts and subsequent fires, and give me HIS explanation of the entire day's events. Not just WTC 7. See if he'll bite. If he does, he gets either 1 or 2 above. Simple. |
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At least with the Wagner operas I get to sit and watch others slug it out instead of being in the middle of it myself! I had set a deadline with my college helper of June 27, but he does have over 200 videos and photo clips to insert into 20 separate YouTube videos so we'll see how he does. Sometime this weekend I will try to set up a new thread for feedback on these videos.
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It'll be a few days yet... just saw the first draft of the first hour of rebuttals (the total will be over three hours) and I'm real happy with what my video editor guy is doing. Unlike the original debate, I take my time explaining every point. It won't be for the casual YouTube surfer but it'll explain our points VERY clearly. Surely by July 4 I'll have something out there, and the whole thing not long after that. Hang in there gang, Chris
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Richard Gage video rebuttals: first three are up
Here's a link to my first YouTube video rebuttal of Gage's Blueprint for Truth. Three of them are up so far and 17 more on their way! This one is a unifying statement directed to people on both sides of the issue. The real content begins in Part One, an explanation of a likely collapse scenario for the WTC 9/11 Twin Towers. Part Two is an independent investigation of Richard Gage's Ten reasons for controlled demolition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC3JgWkNNIQ Happy viewing, Chris Mohr |
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I won't be on this thread much any more... this is the thread where we all worked hard to get our facts straight for my twenty YouTube videos, so it may have value for reference... to stay updated on my YouTube rebuttals of Richard Gage's Blueprint for Truth, go to:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...89#post7317389 Thanks to all who helped these past few months, Chris Mohr |
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