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Old 22nd June 2011, 06:49 AM   #1
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The 9/11 Truther comic book

I can't wait to read the 9/11 Truther comic book:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_881108.html

Somehow I think the comic book is most appropriate forum for 9/11 lunacy- Given the multiple theories within Trutherism (no planers, holograms, alien lasers, etc), i wonder which one(s) they will focus on? If anything, the delusions presented will be good for comedy..

Notice the ignorance of the Truther readers comments under the HP article ....

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Old 22nd June 2011, 12:11 PM   #2
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It's like it's 2006 all over again. One thing that's always amazed (confused?) me about Truthers is that they claim to be looking for the truth but never seem to look beyond the point that their sides original claims were made to see if maybe, just maybe, they actually got an answer to their own questions. From the comments following that article I gather not. This tells me that they aren't actually looking for the truth but are looking for political scapegoats.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 01:10 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Titanic Explorer View Post
I can't wait to read the 9/11 Truther comic book:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_881108.html

Somehow I think the comic book is most appropriate forum for 9/11 lunacy- Given the multiple theories within Trutherism (no planers, holograms, alien lasers, etc), i wonder which one(s) they will focus on? If anything, the delusions presented will be good for comedy..

Notice the ignorance of the Truther readers comments under the HP article ....
The comic is called 9/11: The Big Lie and it's supposed the first in a series. Rick Veitch, the writer and artist was interviewed by USA Today.

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Veitch realizes The Big Lie may be controversial in some circles, yet the country is so polarized in general right now, he's pretty sure he'll attract hard cases on both sides of the argument: those who want to simply remember, and those who want real and true answers.

That's why he has aimed the book itself straight at the middle, to "those folks who might not have thought about these things much in the last 10 years or who participate in the ideological back and forth," says Veitch, who wants to tackle other historical "big lies" with the series.
I suppose this means if the first issue sells well we'll see titles like Pearl Harbor: The Big Lie and ... are you ready?... The Holocaust: The Big Lie.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 01:18 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Walter Ego View Post
are you ready?... The Holocaust: The Big Lie.
Ready? I expected it in the OP.

(Stock Disclaimer: I'm not a truther. I concede that I find the general standards of this forum quite demanding and consequently find the abandonment of them for certain subjects quite distasteful. When it's wrong, it's wrong, even if the 'right' side does it.)
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Old 22nd June 2011, 01:44 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by jiggeryqua View Post
Ready? I expected it in the OP.

(Stock Disclaimer: I'm not a truther. I concede that I find the general standards of this forum quite demanding and consequently find the abandonment of them for certain subjects quite distasteful. When it's wrong, it's wrong, even if the 'right' side does it.)
This issue has been discussed ad infinitum. Please read the relevant threads on this forum re: Holocaust denial and the 9/11 Truth Movement. Also check out this thread on the CT forum. Almost every Holocaust denier on that thread is a 9/11 truther.

It is not a very big leap from believing we were lied to about 9/11 to believing "they" lied to us about the Holocaust, too, and truthers have few problems with the Holocaust deniers in their movement as the video below illustrates.

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Old 22nd June 2011, 01:47 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Walter Ego View Post
This issue has been discussed ad infinitum. Please read the relevant threads on this forum re: Holocaust denial and the 9/11 Truth Movement. Also check out this thread on the CT forum. Almost every Holocaust denier on that thread is a 9/11 truther.

It is not a very big leap from believing we were lied to about 9/11 to believing "they" lied to us about the Holocaust, too, and truthers have few problems with the Holocaust deniers in their movement as the video below illustrates.

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Old 22nd June 2011, 02:20 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by jiggeryqua View Post
Big leap, small leap. Leap, schmeap.
Non-answer answer. Plonk.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 03:24 PM   #8
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When a group, any group, has a sizable subset of its membership that all hold a certain set of beliefs, the rest of that group will become associated with them unless they actively and persistently distance themselves from them. The "Organized" truthers have allowed themselves (either on purpose because they share those same beliefs or because they are just that naive) to become associated with Holocaust Deniers. This is not in dispute, what some will dispute is that they hold those same beliefs. I'm not going to judge them on that because to be honest I don't know them well enough to determine whether they are saying that to deflect the criticism that they know will soon follow or if they actually don't hold those beliefs. In this context it doesn't matter what they personally believe. They have already allowed the people holding those types of views into their little club and have embraced them as kindred spirits. You are known by the friends that you keep and if you keep counting racists and their kind as your friends other people will think that you agree with them. Once that association has been made it will take much longer to disassociate from them in the court of public opinion.

In the navy we had a saying (cleaned up here for the mods). "One Aww Poop will erase a thousand atta boy's". The main thrust of that is that people will always remember your screw ups a lot longer than the thousand other times that you got it right. The first step in fixing that is to admit that you made a mistake and then by doing everything within your power to correct it and not make that same mistake again. The truthers have yet to even admit that they made a mistake by including the Holocaust Deniers within the circle of their friends and then doing something about it. This does nothing to alleviate other peoples perceptions that ALL truthers hold at least some of the same racist beliefs or (and this is almost as damning) don't care what they think as long as they agree with them on this one point.

While it's true that politics can make strange bedfellows there is a point where people just won't tolerate bestiality and kiddie porn no matter what else the pig ****** and kiddie diddler did that they agree with. Truthers apparently haven't reached that point.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 03:32 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Titanic Explorer View Post
I can't wait to read the 9/11 Truther comic book:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_881108.html

Somehow I think the comic book is most appropriate forum for 9/11 lunacy- Given the multiple theories within Trutherism (no planers, holograms, alien lasers, etc), i wonder which one(s) they will focus on? If anything, the delusions presented will be good for comedy..

Notice the ignorance of the Truther readers comments under the HP article ....
I can't wait till frames from this are posted as "evidence" here, on youtube, facebook, etc, etc, etc.

You know one of them eventually will.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 04:44 PM   #10
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That's why he has aimed the book itself straight at the middle, to "those folks who might not have thought about these things much in the last 10 years or who participate in the ideological back and forth," says Veitch, who wants to tackle other historical "big lies" with the series.
Does this mean that the plot of his comic is going to be this?:

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Old 22nd June 2011, 05:35 PM   #11
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Actually this is the second comic book of 9-11 Truthy Truth. There was another one about a guy whose wife and kid died in the Towers, illustrated by Spain Rodriguez that was planned as a seven-issue series. It never was published and the one issue was posted on the website.
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Actually this is the second comic book of 9-11 Truthy Truth. There was another one about a guy whose wife and kid died in the Towers, illustrated by Spain Rodriguez that was planned as a seven-issue series. It never was published and the one issue was posted on the website.
That comic was called DIES IRAE. According to the website for the comic:

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In Latin, Dies Irae means Day of Wrath. To medieval Christians, Dies Irae was the Lord's Judgment Day--the Apocalypse, Doomsday, the end of the world.
The title is also (coincidentally?) a near anagram for Die Israe(l).
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Old 22nd June 2011, 09:44 PM   #13
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I can't wait to read the 9/11 Truther comic book:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_881108.html

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"If one scratches the surface of the commission report, one finds huge holes in the official story.
911 truth filled with nuts who project gaping holes in knowledge, projecting ignorance.

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Our goal is ... , our missing air defense system, the demolitions of the WTC towers,
At least they define their delusional goals.
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Old 23rd June 2011, 12:42 PM   #14
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Not comming soon to your local comic book store.

Comic book creator Veitch is passing the hat over at 911 Blogger.


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I am still in need of $$ to finish paying the artists and pay for distribution. We have raised $13,000 of an estimated $25,000 neccessity[sic].
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Comic book creator Veitch is passing the hat over at 911 Blogger.
This is astounding. It's almost like 9/11 Truth is a call for funding for the unemployed and ignored. You need money for your comic book? Call 9/11 Truth. You need money for a trip somewhere? Say you're going there to spread the Truth and ask for the cash from strangers. You need money to pay your rent and feed the kids? Set up a Internet 9/11 Truth cast and start the call for cash. It's almost as if it's a White trash replacement for food stamps.
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A comic book about 9/11 "truth"? Sounds like a pleonasm.
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Big leap, small leap. Leap, schmeap.
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Comic book creator Veitch is passing the hat over at 911 Blogger.
If they can't raise $25K -- most of which probably covers "expenses" like overdue rent and munchies, if it's anything like other Truther charity drives -- they can always publish it in Bentham for a fraction of that.

Just think, the world's first peer-reviewed comic book!
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We should bundle and sell Horatius' comics. We'll make a kazillion bucks
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Perhaps a coloring book would be more appropriate. Or maybe a "paint with water" book, with all the conclusions filled in ahead of time. All the truthers need to provide is misconceptions.
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Love the comment is the article that he's "not a truther, but doesn't believe the government".

Irony is ironic.
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I am a comic collector and this makes me sad because Veitch and Erskine are actually good writers. However, likely they do not not have much in the way scientific edumacation otherwise they would know not to open their yaps about this. (Much like many of the Hollywood celebrities and their do-gooder causes.)
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Originally Posted by Dragon37 View Post
I am a comic collector and this makes me sad because Veitch and Erskine are actually good writers. However, likely they do not not have much in the way scientific edumacation otherwise they would know not to open their yaps about this. (Much like many of the Hollywood celebrities and their do-gooder causes.)
They are not the only ones......look at the total fool Neal Adams has made of himself with his obssesion with his crackpot "Expanding Earth" theories.

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