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Old 16th August 2019, 09:24 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
As opposed to Christianity, where they only preach falsehoods to those over 18, I suppose?


Oh good, you have researched this. What percentage of the surviving female family members had college degrees and jobs, and what percentage were helpless with no driving licenses or bank account info? Thanks in advance for your efforts.
I must remember to sympathise with my female Muslim colleagues about their inability to drive.

Presumably their husbands are actually remotely controlling their cars.
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Old 16th August 2019, 11:33 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank View Post
That’s awful. Why is there a mosque in Norway?
pizz you off, Scept.

Yes, little you.
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Old 16th August 2019, 07:05 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Nobody in this thread has been 'letting Islam off the hook' as far as I can tell...
And it's sad that a disclaimer like this has to be required.

This particular thread is about a white-supremacist shooter who tried to massacre a bunch of people at mosque and was stopped. Objectively here's nothing for Islam to be "let off the hook" about, regarding this incident. There's just some people who cannot let a story about a violent crime, if the perpetrator is a race-motivated white person, get coverage without demanding a half-page footnote that other people who belong to the incident's victim-class have also done bad things sometimes too.
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Old 16th August 2019, 07:17 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank View Post
That’s awful. Why is there a mosque in Norway?
Why are there churches in the UAE?
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Old 17th August 2019, 11:21 PM   #85
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Why are there churches, mosques and synagogues?
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Old 18th August 2019, 07:39 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Islam is a disgusting and degenerative religion.
Because it preaches falsehoods to the defenceless, the children. They are blighted and prejudiced for all time.
The women are ignored in the process of empowerment. That is emphasised by the fact that the Christchurch widows could not drive or access the bank accounts.
You know what true degeneracy is? That's somehow pining for the good old days where only Lutherans were allowed in Norway.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:48 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by plague311 View Post
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Skeptic Tank, but he doesn't really agree all people should have those freedoms. He's leans a bit more towards only white people should have....really any freedoms at all. The rest are just property and problems.
Meanwhile I, a Norwegian, lean towards "People like Skeptic Tank should have no freedoms".

Funny how that works, right?
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Old 4th November 2019, 09:13 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
ETA: he apparently killed his 17 year old little sister.

Stepsister, adopted from China. If anybody still doubts that he's a Nazi, his Nazi salute in court today may persuade them that he is.
Norwegian accused of terror: I protect future generations (DR.dk, Nov. 4, 2019)
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Old 5th November 2019, 12:23 AM   #89
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Originally Posted by dann View Post
Stepsister, adopted from China. If anybody still doubts that he's a Nazi, his Nazi salute in court today may persuade them that he is.
Norwegian accused of terror: I protect future generations (DR.dk, Nov. 4, 2019)

In that pose, he looks somewhat reminiscent of a young Rudolph Hess!

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Old 5th November 2019, 02:34 AM   #90
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More so than in this photo from September:

Norway mosque shooter killed teenage sister over her ‘Chinese origin’ (AsiaOne, Sep. 18, 2019)

Except for Hess’ receding hairline.
But he does seem to groom himself to look like a member of the Hitler Youth.

Norway mosque shooter who killed stepsister had racist motive — police (The Times of Israel, Oct. 8, 2019)

Interesting angle of the two headlines: The Israeli one points out his racism, the Chinese one his racism against the Chinese.
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The trial against Philip Manshaus (NRK.no)
There won't be an audience at the courthouse. Due to the pandemic (TV2.no), the media will have to follow the trial online.
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Old 19th May 2020, 12:20 PM   #92
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Manshaus is considered to be sane enough to stand trial in spite of claiming that he killed his sister to protect the family. He is also a homophobe who used to be in a homosexual relationship.
(In Denmark we have an extreme right-wing politician who is a homosexual homophobe. Wilhelm Reich wasn't right about orgone energy, but he was probably right about the harm that repression of sexuality can have on the mind.)

Sakkyndige: Manshaus er i høyrisikogruppe for nye voldshandlinger (NRK.no, May 19, 2020)
Experts say that there is a high risk that Manshaus may commit new acts of violence
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 23rd May 2020, 10:37 AM   #93
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The prosecution pleads that he be put away for 21 years. The defence thinks that he has a "paranoid world view" and should be acquitted.
Ber om 21 års forvaring for Manshaus (NRK.no, May 20, 2020)

A long article about his motives and ideas: https://www.nrk.no/norge/manshaus_-_...med foreldrene (NRK.no, May 7, 2020)
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Old 23rd May 2020, 11:20 AM   #94
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I love the logic there.

"You rationally decided to kill some people? Better lock you up."

"You're violently insane? Better let you go free."
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Old 27th May 2020, 11:09 AM   #95
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I love the logic there.

"You rationally decided to kill some people? Better lock you up."

"You're violently insane? Better let you go free."
Yes, what an insane country it is where a defense attorney seeks the acquittal of their client.

Is that really so uncommon in the USA?

Meanwhile, letting him free is never going to happen. Even if he was ruled legally insane and not responsible for his actions, an acquittal would mean forced psychiatric care.
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Yes, what an insane country it is where a defense attorney seeks the acquittal of their client.

Is that really so uncommon in the USA?

Meanwhile, letting him free is never going to happen. Even if he was ruled legally insane and not responsible for his actions, an acquittal would mean forced psychiatric care.
Just like the US where being criminally insane is a defense. The only case I know of where they let the murderer sign themselves out was in Japan over a canibal murder in france by a japanese national who became a minor celebrity after he checked himself out after being returned to Japan for being criminally insane.
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The verdict on Thursday, June 11.
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"Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht
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Old 11th June 2020, 01:32 AM   #98
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21 years. Manshaus dømmes til forvaring (NRK.no, June 11, 2020)
The stepping stones on his way to becoming a full-blown homicidal Nazi were "websites with Neo-Nazi content" and "conservative Christianity".

Norway court jails mosque gunman Manshaus for 21 years (BBC News, June 11, 2020)
Norway: Mosque attacker sentenced to 21 years 'preventive detention' (Deutsch Welle, June 11, 2020)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

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