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Old 18th November 2021, 08:33 AM   #3001
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Originally Posted by Tippit View Post
Anyone else notice that Smallpox is making it back in the headlines? And then there is Operation Dark Winter:

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity....ter/about.html
Yes, some people think about possible scenarios, and plan a response.
I have no idea why you find this troubling.

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Is this the next chapter in the NWO disease protection racket/great reset? If Smallpox is released, that would be a real pandemic. People would be clamoring for vaccines instead of desperately trying to avoid them even at the expense of livelihood.
We already know the smallpox vaccine works. We've known that for 200 years. What would be the point in releasing a disease, then getting everyone vaccinated against the disease, thus ending the spread of the disease again?
Looks like a completely pointless exercise to me. What manner of Dark Evil am I missing here?

By the way, is 200 years enough time for long-term side-effects to show up?
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Old 18th November 2021, 08:41 AM   #3002
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Yes, some people think about possible scenarios, and plan a response.
I have no idea why you find this troubling.



We already know the smallpox vaccine works. We've known that for 200 years. What would be the point in releasing a disease, then getting everyone vaccinated against the disease, thus ending the spread of the disease again?
Looks like a completely pointless exercise to me. What manner of Dark Evil am I missing here?

By the way, is 200 years enough time for long-term side-effects to show up?
Obviously "they" are going to add some 5G nanobots to the recipe.
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Old 18th November 2021, 08:52 AM   #3003
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Alex Jones had a guy on this week talking about vaporizing and inhaling "food grade" hydrogen peroxide to cure coronavirus. Food-trade peroxide is ... ten times stronger than the stuff at the drugstore. The logic of buying something ten times as strong and diluting it yourself vs. just buying the regular kind wasn't discussed. Neither was the fact that you shouldn't inhale hydrogen peroxide.
It is entirely possible that you wouldn't worry about Covid after that
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Old 18th November 2021, 09:05 AM   #3004
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Alex Jones had a guy on this week talking about vaporizing and inhaling "food grade" hydrogen peroxide to cure coronavirus. Food-trade peroxide is ... ten times stronger than the stuff at the drugstore. The logic of buying something ten times as strong and diluting it yourself vs. just buying the regular kind wasn't discussed. Neither was the fact that you shouldn't inhale hydrogen peroxide.
If it made sense to inhale peroxide (lol) you'd probably be better off with food grade. There are undesirable compounds in ordinary peroxide that aren't in food grade.
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Old 18th November 2021, 09:12 AM   #3005
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Hey, wait a minnit

Originally Posted by Tippit View Post
Anyone else notice that Smallpox is making it back in the headlines? And then there is Operation Dark Winter:

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity....ter/about.html

Is this the next chapter in the NWO disease protection racket/great reset? If Smallpox is released, that would be a real pandemic. People would be clamoring for vaccines instead of desperately trying to avoid them even at the expense of livelihood.


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I got my booster on Monday down at Kroger pharmacy because it's in their supermarket and you said they wouldn't let me buy my beer n eats n whatnot if I didn't n now according to you it turns out I could've resisted desperately n not had to get it maybe. Listen, my arm was SORE, even still on Tuesday. Thanks a lot, "Tippit," if that's really your name.

Or are you just making things up?
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Old 18th November 2021, 10:03 AM   #3006
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It is entirely possible that you wouldn't worry about Covid after that
My first thought was that anyone who thinks inhaling hydrogen peroxide will cure COVID probably should inhale hydrogen peroxide and quickly remove the possibility of spreading the virus to others.
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Old 18th November 2021, 10:46 AM   #3007
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Alex Jones had a guy on this week talking about vaporizing and inhaling "food grade" hydrogen peroxide to cure coronavirus. Food-trade peroxide is ... ten times stronger than the stuff at the drugstore. The logic of buying something ten times as strong and diluting it yourself vs. just buying the regular kind wasn't discussed. Neither was the fact that you shouldn't inhale hydrogen peroxide.


au contraire, Carlitos, and Steve


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au contraire, Carlitos, and Steve


https://www.amazon.com/Rapid-Virus-R.../dp/099831241X
You mean the duck that quacked a fake Ebola cure?

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3) High doses of Vitamin C
Yep, that's right. The cure for Ebola was right under our noses the entire time: just chug a bottle of orange juice!

"To date, not a single virus has been tested that is not inactivated (killed) by a large enough dose of vitamin C (ascorbic acid)," writes Dr. Thomas E. Levy over at the completely disreputable anti-vaccination website NaturalHealth365. The article continues, word after misleading word, until you get to the bottom editor's note which not only includes a disclaimer, but also a sales pitch!

There are two types of vitamin C that I personally use every day. The UltraFine Vitamin C powder [hyperlink redacted because NaturalHealth365 should be ashamed of themselves] plus a liposomal version of vitamin C. But, just to be clear, by no means should you ever think that any nutritional supplements can 'cure' any viral condition or disease.

So, no, vitamin C won't cure Ebola, they admit. But it totally does and be sure to buy UltraFine™ brand Vitamin C powder!

It should probably be noted that despite Dr. Levy's deep interest in the topic (he published a book in 2002 called Curing the Incurable: Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases and Toxins) he has never published a peer-reviewed paper on the link between Vitamin C and disease..
Books instead of peer review . . . Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Please provide the peer reviewed study that attests to Levy's claims.
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Old 18th November 2021, 11:04 AM   #3009
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A quack doctor wrote about a quack cure. So what?

Here's the doctor's book reporting that "all coronary heart disease is caused by scurvy." He's a nut.
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Old 18th November 2021, 11:18 AM   #3010
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Folks like Bubba and Tippit are now declaring themselves "Purebloods".
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Old 18th November 2021, 11:34 AM   #3011
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Borax bath to detox those harmful nanobots

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Obviously "they" are going to add some 5G nanobots to the recipe.
"Then, she [ Dr. Carrie Madej] recommends adding in one cup of borax, a cleaning agent that’s been banned as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration, to “take nanotechnologies out of you.”

In reality, in addition to being potentially harmful as a skin and eye irritant, a borax “detox bath” will not remove the effects of the Covid vaccine from your body."" Yahoo News

You couldn't make this stuff up.
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Old 18th November 2021, 11:51 AM   #3012
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Folks like Bubba and Tippit are now declaring themselves "Purebloods".
Check out the flag in the middle. The British Union of Fascists and National Socialists



and in fact the 18 in her username
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Folks like Bubba and Tippit are now declaring themselves "Purebloods".
Sure. Here's another Pureblood anti-vax cement-head that croaked it from COVID.

Quote:
Laurie Dirr, 50, Walton, KY, HS English Teacher, anti-vaxxer, dead from COVID.
According to this obituary Laurie died on 11/11/21. She leaves behind her husband and four children. Laurie was definitely an anti-vaxxer, although not much of a meme spreader. I guess as an English teacher she could express herself without using memes.

Let's see what Laurie was thinking about all this pandemic stuff...
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Check out the flag in the middle. The British Union of Fascists and National Socialists



and in fact the 18 in her username
Loving the use of George "died from an infectious respiratory disease not a million miles away from Covid" Orwell
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My first thought was that anyone who thinks inhaling hydrogen peroxide will cure COVID probably should inhale hydrogen peroxide and quickly remove the possibility of spreading the virus to others.
The LD50 of H2O2 is about 900mg/kg, which is about 72g for the average 80kg adult human. A typical 1L bottle of 3% solution contains 30g of H2O2, which means you would have to consume around 2.4 1L bottles of 3% solution H2O2 in order to kill yourself. If you inhaled it all as opposed to just swallowing it that number would probably be a bit lower. This of course discounts what are probably fairly unlikely long term cumulative toxic effects of H2O2 (unlike say another popular substance with pseudo-skeptics, Ethylmercury).

In addition, H2O2 is a compound found in the body naturally, so unless said person planned on huffing more than an entire 1L bottle in one sitting, they would probably be just fine. This means the cost of experimenting with it, much like Vitamin C, is very low both in pecuniary and risk terms.
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Old 18th November 2021, 12:07 PM   #3016
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Old 18th November 2021, 12:09 PM   #3017
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Check out the flag in the middle. The British Union of Fascists and National Socialists



and in fact the 18 in her username
I think you're on to us.
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Old 18th November 2021, 12:13 PM   #3018
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You mean the duck that quacked a fake Ebola cure?


Books instead of peer review . . . Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Please provide the peer reviewed study that attests to Levy's claims.
Now now.

High doses of vitamin C will probably kill a virus. In the same way bleach does. Or peroxide. Or burning it.

It's not Bubba's fault his education never included an explanation of how the digestive system works.
Hint: If you eat high doses of vitamin C the only place that will end up is in your bladder.
Neither corona nor ebola infect via the bladder, but hey.
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The LD50 of H2O2 is about 900mg/kg, which is about 72g for the average 80kg adult human. A typical 1L bottle of 3% solution contains 30g of H2O2, which means you would have to consume around 2.4 1L bottles of 3% solution H2O2 in order to kill yourself. If you inhaled it all as opposed to just swallowing it that number would probably be a bit lower. This of course discounts what are probably fairly unlikely long term cumulative toxic effects of H2O2 (unlike say another popular substance with pseudo-skeptics, Ethylmercury).

In addition, H2O2 is a compound found in the body naturally, so unless said person planned on huffing more than an entire 1L bottle in one sitting, they would probably be just fine. This means the cost of experimenting with it, much like Vitamin C, is very low both in pecuniary and risk terms.
1 - As I said, they were discussing "food grade" hydrogen peroxide, which is 30 - 34%, not 3%.
2 - There are many substances found "in the human body" that are not safe to vaporize and inhale. Our bodies also produce bleach, formaldehyde and even triiodothyronine, but those aren't safe to vaporize and inhale either.
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1 - As I said, they were discussing "food grade" hydrogen peroxide, which is 30 - 34%, not 3%.
2 - There are many substances found "in the human body" that are not safe to vaporize and inhale. Our bodies also produce bleach, formaldehyde and even triiodothyronine, but those aren't safe to vaporize and inhale either.
There is 3% food grade HP available. "Food grade" just means fewer impurities. If you don't want to inhale it, then don't.
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I think you're on to us.
Yeah, but are you?
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Folks like Bubba and Tippit are now declaring themselves "Purebloods".
Yeah, they didn't have to come out as Slytherin. We knew all along.
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There is 3% food grade HP available. "Food grade" just means fewer impurities. If you don't want to inhale it, then don't.
Thanks for sharing. Since I actually listened to the interview with the guy talking about "30% concentrated food grade," and I'm the one that posted about it here, I don't know why you feel like correcting me on this.
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Well it would be a shame if I was wrong and they live and continue to spread a deadly disease, but I could live with a little shame.
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Loving the use of George "died from an infectious respiratory disease not a million miles away from Covid" Orwell
For some reason - lots of the far right antivax intersection seems to like using that particular photo of Orwell.
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I think there's no doubt that Orwell would get vaccinated if he were around today, because he was intelligent.
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I think you're on to us.
Doesn't this make you wonder if you're the baddies? There are an awful lot of Nazis who are antivaxers.

Think of all the vile individuals who are trying to traduce the history of the yellow star.
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Loving the use of George "died from an infectious respiratory disease not a million miles away from Covid" Orwell
Love that he's apparently using it as a dating service.
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Alex Jones had a guy on this week talking about vaporizing and inhaling "food grade" hydrogen peroxide to cure coronavirus. Food-trade peroxide is ... ten times stronger than the stuff at the drugstore. The logic of buying something ten times as strong and diluting it yourself vs. just buying the regular kind wasn't discussed. Neither was the fact that you shouldn't inhale hydrogen peroxide.
Remember when you typed this nonsense, as if no one other than yourself understands how to dose, as if food grade H2O2 is only available in 30% solution, and as if there aren't specific reasons why someone might want to get food grade vs. the "regular kind"?
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Doesn't this make you wonder if you're the baddies? There are an awful lot of Nazis who are antivaxers.

Think of all the vile individuals who are trying to traduce the history of the yellow star.
I'm sure you're thinking of this.

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Doesn't this make you wonder if you're the baddies? There are an awful lot of Nazis who are antivaxers.
No. Are you really going with this tack?
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I saw your original post before you edited it. I hope I am completely wrong, and I hope you and your family remain safe even if I'm right.
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Remember when you typed this nonsense, as if no one other than yourself understands how to dose, as if food grade H2O2 is only available in 30% solution, and as if there aren't specific reasons why someone might want to get food grade vs. the "regular kind"?
Neither kind of hydrogen peroxide is safe to inhale, obviously. What the hell. It's for cleaning surfaces used around food, not to consume as food.

I wouldn't trust humans operating outside of mainstream medicine not to think - 3% good, 30% better, just like they are going to poison control for taking too much Ivermectin.

Why would you would introduce increased danger, by encouraging people to buy hydrogen peroxide 10 times as strong as what they have now, then expect them to dilute it "correctly" to administer this non-endorsed pseudo-medical procedure? It's crazy, you're just creating more chance for someone to do it "wrong" and hurt themselves.
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Old 18th November 2021, 02:14 PM   #3036
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hydrogen peroxide

This is not medical advice. Hydrogen peroxide is one member of a group called reactive oxygen species (ROS). If you add one electron to hydrogen peroxide, you will produce the hydroxyl radical which is damaging to DNA (p. 299, Nelson and Cox, Principles of Biochemistry, seventh edition. I would not ingest it willingly.
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I saw your original post before you edited it. I hope I am completely wrong, and I hope you and your family remain safe even if I'm right.
Actually the original is completely intact upthread. I merely deleted the duplicate. We are all quite safe - fully vaccinated and following mask and distance protocols. We also live in a location where COVID cases are consistently very low and the rate of vaccination is around 90%. We are also quite mentally sound and have no irrational fear of death by doctor.
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Imagine someone who supports forced vaccination mandates and then posts that video without any sense of irony.
Where have I supported forced vaccination? Please do show me.

Oh, I know - telling people they can't choose to forgo vaccination and/or take other health precautions while in public is forcing them to get vaccinated, right? Just like telling them not to come into your grocery store is coercion through literally starving them to death, despite offering alternative methods of acquiring groceries.

I place such public health precautions in the same category as other health code mandates - because some people are too stupid and selfish not to endanger the health of others. You don't have to **** in the public toilet if you think "the gays" are infecting them with HIV, but that doesn't mean you get to **** on the sidewalk outside the restaurant.

And those images posted by Jim bob show people literally using white supremacist terms and fascist imagery. Doesn't that bother you?
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
Where have I supported forced vaccination? Please do show me.

Oh, I know - telling people they can't choose to forgo vaccination and/or take other health precautions while in public is forcing them to get vaccinated, right? Just like telling them not to come into your grocery store is coercion through literally starving them to death, despite offering alternative methods of acquiring groceries.

I place such public health precautions in the same category as other health code mandates - because some people are too stupid and selfish not to endanger the health of others. You don't have to **** in the public toilet if you think "the gays" are infecting them with HIV, but that doesn't mean you get to **** on the sidewalk outside the restaurant.

And those images posted by Jim bob show people literally using white supremacist terms and fascist imagery. Doesn't that bother you?
like this



Or the Holocaust denial of David Icke - and where his rants make a horrible historic sense if one mentally replaces "Lizard" with "Jew", which fits with that.
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Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part III

Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
This is not medical advice. Hydrogen peroxide is one member of a group called reactive oxygen species (ROS). If you add one electron to hydrogen peroxide, you will produce the hydroxyl radical which is damaging to DNA (p. 299, Nelson and Cox, Principles of Biochemistry, seventh edition. I would not ingest it willingly.

I bought and am reading the book that Bubba linked. The premise behind the therapeutic effect is that the hydroxyl radical borrows its electron from ferrous Iron, which is apparently used by all or most viral pathogens:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3676888/

And then it induces apoptosis in virus cells (and apparently tumor cells as well).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...9158499700292X

So while hydroxy radicals are dangerous, the presumption is that it targets pathogenic cells.


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